Kidney stone - Gods wrath

StinkyPinky

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Guys, pray you never get one of these. I've broken my leg before and the pain from that is nothing compared to a kidney stone.

It has passed from my kidney to my bladder thank god. But of course, now I need to pee the thing out. I really hope it goes gentle on me. I'm scared to pee :eek:
 

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I'm positive there is no greater pain I could ever go through after my first kidney stone.. My stupid ass refused medication too... I was a fool... Take the needle man... Don't lose the thing either.. Have the doc find out what caused it for you, I guess there are many types/reasons...
 

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my gf had a kidney stone a few months back. she doesn't have insurance, so lithotripsy was out of the question... so, i bought some asparagus and a 6-pack of coca-cola and said goodbye to the kidney stone. we dissolved it on our own.
 
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Ugh, I've heard of the infamous kidney stone pain - supposedly only second to childbirth. Are there any other solutions beside passing it now that it's in the bladder? If not, good luck, man. It's never fun.
 

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Ugh, I've heard of the infamous kidney stone pain - supposedly only second to childbirth. Are there any other solutions beside passing it now that it's in the bladder? If not, good luck, man. It's never fun.

down a can of coke every 20 minutes for two hours... don't pee. hold it in as long as you possibly can. after the last coke, wait 5 minutes, then eat a bunch of cooked asparagus (you can eat a can of asparagus if you like it more).

do NOT add any ice to the soda... it'll make you wanna piss more, since the ice melts and adds water to the coke.

you've got about an 80% chance that that kidney stone will have dissolved in a few hours. if not, do it again... you should definitely have it gone by then.
 
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down a can of coke every 20 minutes for two hours... don't pee. hold it in as long as you possibly can. after the last coke, wait 5 minutes, then eat a bunch of cooked asparagus (you can eat a can of asparagus if you like it more).

do NOT add any ice to the soda... it'll make you wanna piss more, since the ice melts and adds water to the coke.

you've got about an 80% chance that that kidney stone will have dissolved in a few hours. if not, do it again... you should definitely have it gone by then.

So you're relying on the phosphoric acid of the soda, but what does the asparagus have in it that can dissolve typical kidney stones?
 

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down a can of coke every 20 minutes for two hours... don't pee. hold it in as long as you possibly can. after the last coke, wait 5 minutes, then eat a bunch of cooked asparagus (you can eat a can of asparagus if you like it more).

do NOT add any ice to the soda... it'll make you wanna piss more, since the ice melts and adds water to the coke.

you've got about an 80% chance that that kidney stone will have dissolved in a few hours. if not, do it again... you should definitely have it gone by then.

Is the 80% number validated by research, or is that more from personal experience? (I'm not at all attempting to be facetious; just curious, as everything I've read thus far has said that the results are mixed as to the actual efficacy of dietary options for both the "cure" and management of kidney stones).

My girlfriend had one a couple weeks back--Lortab didn't do much other than get her high, but at least the shots helped with the pain. Urologist wanted her to try and pass it naturally, which she fortunately did after about five or six days.
 

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Is the 80% number validated by research, or is that more from personal experience? (I'm not at all attempting to be facetious; just curious, as everything I've read thus far has said that the results are mixed as to the actual efficacy of dietary options for both the "cure" and management of kidney stones).

My girlfriend had one a couple weeks back--Lortab didn't do much other than get her high, but at least the shots helped with the pain. Urologist wanted her to try and pass it naturally, which she fortunately did after about five or six days.

i haven't found any research on it. i just know from personal experiences (not myself, but other patients and people i've talked to). it seriously works great.
 

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Umm...I still haven't pissed it out. So either i've pissed it out without knowing (the doc said it was on the small side) or it is still there and waiting for just the right time to come out.

The CT scan also shows I have another larger stone in my kidney - he said it may stay there for years or "come down tomorrow". Omg - why would he tell me that? I'd rather not know.

I'm doubling my water intake for the rest of my life.
 

StinkyPinky

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down a can of coke every 20 minutes for two hours... don't pee. hold it in as long as you possibly can. after the last coke, wait 5 minutes, then eat a bunch of cooked asparagus (you can eat a can of asparagus if you like it more).

do NOT add any ice to the soda... it'll make you wanna piss more, since the ice melts and adds water to the coke.

you've got about an 80% chance that that kidney stone will have dissolved in a few hours. if not, do it again... you should definitely have it gone by then.

Thanks man. Yeah I came across this when searching the net.

The stone in my bladder is small so I think I will just try and piss it out.

But will defintely do it for the medium size one still stuck in my kidney...when it decides to move down. Hopefully years away!
 

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Wow this sounds unpleasant. I just read the most common cause of kidney stones is not drinking enough water. Hmmm...I drink shitloads of diet soda and black coffee, which, is kind of scaring me.

Maybe I'll start drinking water.
 

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The effectiveness of any non-pharmaceutical remedy (increasing acidity of urine, fruit juices, etc.) depends on what kind of stone it is (meaning the chemical composition of the stone).

That will really give you a better idea of what dietary modifications (if any) can be made for you to minimize the chances of stone formation.
 

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Wow this sounds unpleasant. I just read the most common cause of kidney stones is not drinking enough water. Hmmm...I drink shitloads of diet soda and black coffee, which, is kind of scaring me.

Maybe I'll start drinking water.

I suggest you do. The pain is excruciating.

ER took one look and pumped morphine into me.
 

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Wow this sounds unpleasant. I just read the most common cause of kidney stones is not drinking enough water. Hmmm...I drink shitloads of diet soda and black coffee, which, is kind of scaring me.

Maybe I'll start drinking water.

many times, it's genetic... some people are just genetically predisposed to getting kidney stones. however, it is also attributed to not drinking enough water.
 

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I probably drink close to a gallon of water per day. I hope I dont have to deal with this.
 

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many times, it's genetic... some people are just genetically predisposed to getting kidney stones. however, it is also attributed to not drinking enough water.

Yeah, as best I can tell, the only think that's been definitively linked to kidney stone formation is genetics. Beyond that, most dietary evidence (even not drinking enough water) stands on shaky ground...understandably so, given the near-impossibility of developing experimental tasks and/or gathering enough information to control for all possible factors and extraneous variables.
 
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Yeah, as best I can tell, the only think that's been definitively linked to kidney stone formation is genetics. Beyond that, most dietary evidence (even not drinking enough water) stands on shaky ground...understandably so, given the near-impossibility of developing experimental tasks and/or gathering enough information to control for all possible factors and extraneous variables.

High protein consumption has been shown to contribute to kidney stones (due to the uric acid content). It's weird though because it's not high general protein consumption, but high burst protein consumption. That's why you should section off your meals a bit more, especially if you're bulking. You don't really wanna consume 100g of protein in one sitting.
 

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Yeah, as best I can tell, the only think that's been definitively linked to kidney stone formation is genetics. Beyond that, most dietary evidence (even not drinking enough water) stands on shaky ground...understandably so, given the near-impossibility of developing experimental tasks and/or gathering enough information to control for all possible factors and extraneous variables.

On the other hand it's not like drinking lots of water can hurt (as long as you don't go insane and down gallons per day.)
 

StinkyPinky

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Yeah, as best I can tell, the only think that's been definitively linked to kidney stone formation is genetics. Beyond that, most dietary evidence (even not drinking enough water) stands on shaky ground...understandably so, given the near-impossibility of developing experimental tasks and/or gathering enough information to control for all possible factors and extraneous variables.

Yeah, but then they also say chocolate doesn't cause acne and it used to for me without a doubt.

No one in my family has had stones before. I used to drink a shit load of cola until a few days ago. Probably 4 or 5 glass fulls a day.

Still haven't pissed it out by the way. Hmm....
 
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Yeah, but then they also say chocolate doesn't cause acne and it used to for me without a doubt.

No one in my family has had stones before. I used to drink a shit load of cola until a few days ago. Probably 4 or 5 glass fulls a day.

Still haven't pissed it out by the way. Hmm....

Eek. If you ever get back on the 4-5 glasses of soda a day, kidney stones will be the least of your worries. Mmm, fatty liver, insulin resistance, diabetes, atherosclerosis... Soda was one helluva invention for doctors and their job security.
 

StinkyPinky

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Eek. If you ever get back on the 4-5 glasses of soda a day, kidney stones will be the least of your worries. Mmm, fatty liver, insulin resistance, diabetes, atherosclerosis... Soda was one helluva invention for doctors and their job security.

Yeah, perhaps the stones were a good thing. I'm never touching cola again.
 
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Yeah, perhaps the stones were a good thing. I'm never touching cola again.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. I've done a lot of research on my own, but we're currently going over sugar-sweetened beverages in my clinical exercise physiology class. It does similar liver damage as ethanol. Fatty liver disease, cirrhosis, increased LDL, decreased HDL - all these things leads to worse problems: atherosclerosis, cardiovascular diseases, blood clots, heart attacks, strokes. It's right up there with smoking (or worse) when it comes to bodily damage.