Kidd and Duncan, would they rival Shaq/Kobe?

[Lyfer]

they think so.


Once Kidd leaves NJ the east has no chance in hell (like they did this year ) to win a title.


btw Congrats to the Admiral for his 2nd title!

 

[TallBill]

Duncan doesn't need Kidd like shaq needed Kobe

 

[nitsuj3580]

Kidd w/ Duncan would be awesome.

I think the Spurs will really miss Robinson though. His back must hurt him a lot cuz I've never seen a more ripped dude in the NBA. He looks like he is in amazing shape and he showed yesterday he's still got game (13 points and 17 boards!)

Spurs don't have much size other than Duncan. I think getting a Jermaine O Neal has to be really tempting and just live with Parker at point.

I'm sure Kidd will seriously consider being a Spur though. He knows he won't be able to win a championship in the East

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Kidd isn't the all around player like Kobe is. Kobe and Shaq have a large reliance on each other and gel together very well - I'm not sure the same could be said for Kidd/Duncan if it indeed happens. It would be interesting to see.

 

[TheBDB]

I wonder what style the Spurs will play if they get Kidd. Is he going to enjoy standing at the 3 point line feeding the ball into Duncan? Will Duncan be able to run up and down the court on the fast break with Kidd?

 

[Storm]

The Spurs are a little short without Robinson. They need Brand or J. O'neal instead of Kidd imho.

 

[nitsuj3580]

Originally posted by: Storm
The Spurs are a little short without Robinson. They need Brand or J. O'neal instead of Kidd imho.

someone agrees with me (see my above post). I really think O'Neal/Duncan/Parker would be scarier than Kidd/Duncan (where does this leave Parker?)

Parker is very up and down but he's only 21! He's definitely got skills and O'Neal and Duncan inside along with Jackson/parker/ginobli, etc on the outside, can you say repeat

 

[Muck]

Kidd isn't that good a shooter. Kobe is still the better player.

Also, I think that the Spurs will be fine without Robinson. Duncan will man the middle alone and continue to dominate. He won't miss a beat. Malik Rose is a good player. But they still could use some height. They should persue another big man before Kidd. Parker/Claxton is a very good, young PG tandem.

 

[LeeTJ]

In my opinion, Duncan Kidd could be better than Kobe Shaq. Kidd, Parker, Jackson could run the break as well as the NJ team did, TD is an awesome rebounder and outlet passer. Rose can run tho mb not as well as KMart. Question is, who does SA get to replace the Admiral.

OTOH, I like NJ w/o Kidd. gives them some room to work. I'd trade Mutombo to someone looking to shed contract (Next year is his last year right?). Trade Kittles and RJ for a real Shooting Guard, mb they can work something out with the Knicks.

Get G Payton to replace Kidd, mb get Alan Houston from Knicks for Mutombo and mb kittles or RJ. then you have it.

G. Payton, Houston, KMart (at SF), Williams (PF) and Collins.

I could live with that starting five.

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: nitsuj3580

Originally posted by: Storm
The Spurs are a little short without Robinson. They need Brand or J. O'neal instead of Kidd imho.

someone agrees with me (see my above post). I really think O'Neal/Duncan/Parker would be scarier than Kidd/Duncan (where does this leave Parker?)

Parker is very up and down but he's only 21! He's definitely got skills and O'Neal and Duncan inside along with Jackson/parker/ginobli, etc on the outside, can you say repeat

I agree with you as well. I don't think people really recognize the impact of Robinson retiring. It seems to be a common idea that he was just an old man who rarely played and just rode Duncan's back to the finals. While that may be partially true, he was still a great center when he played and was smart down low and was still pretty big and strong. You can't replace a center with a PG and expect to be OK. If they do get Kidd they will have to get a cheap center (Mark Madsen anyone?) and could be hurting down low against teams in the west (i.e. Lakers & Mavs). When you say O'Neal, Duncan, Ginobli, Jackson, & Parker for a starting 5, that does look pretty tough to say the least.

 

[Storm]

Originally posted by: nitsuj3580

Originally posted by: Storm
The Spurs are a little short without Robinson. They need Brand or J. O'neal instead of Kidd imho.

someone agrees with me (see my above post). I really think O'Neal/Duncan/Parker would be scarier than Kidd/Duncan (where does this leave Parker?)

Parker is very up and down but he's only 21! He's definitely got skills and O'Neal and Duncan inside along with Jackson/parker/ginobli, etc on the outside, can you say repeat

I doubt it for the following reasons:
Webber and Dirk should be back to full health and what are the chances they will both get hurt again in the playoffs?
Shaq apparently has hired a personal trainer to get in shape this summer and not be a couch potato.
I don't think Bibby is going to suck as much in the upcoming playoffs as this past one.

On a side note is Stephen Jackson a FA? I dont think he has a long-term contract. I also dont think he likes Popovich. He could be the type of person to take the money in run.

 

[Masas]

Duncan and Kidd VS. Shaq and Kobe.

2v2? shaq and kobe wins...pretty easily (imo)

Lakers vs Spurs (plugging in kidd at pg instead of parker).....
spurs kill...easily (again, imo)

but yeah...i'd say straight 2vs2 Shaq and Kobe would be tops...

 

[Stark]

1. Notice how all the Spurs were praising the team because they had high character guys? That's why they don't need a head-case like J. O'neal.

2. JKidd is not going to SA because the media market isn't big enough for his wife's career. Think Gretzky late in his career... LA and NY to make Janet happy. Mrs. Kidd has him wrapped around her finger... Jason, I want you to play for the Clippers in LA. No, you say? Are you going to make me do an Edward Norton from Fight Club and punch myself in the face and call my friends at the news station? I thought you'd see it my way... now go call Sleazy Sterling.

3. Do not expect the Spurs to repeat. The Lakers used to roll over them in the 4th quarter because they played just like they did in the finals. If Kupcheck does his job this summer, they'll knock the Spurs out again next year.

4. The nets are done. They are the Utah Jazz of the eastern conference. KMart has no heart and won't win without kidd.

It will be interesting to see what happens with teams like Detroit, Seattle, Dallas (see if that huge payroll was worth barely beating the Kings for 3rd place), LA, Portland and Sac. This should be an offseason where some great teams are built or dismantled.

 

[zzzz]

I think Brad Miller would be a good choice for spurs.

 

[Shlong]

I would wait for Kevin Garnett if I were the spurs, KG & Duncan. 25 points, 15 boards from both every night. :Q

 

[LeeTJ]

But are the Spurs the right place for Kidd? While Kidd would love the chance to team up with Duncan, he's worried about the conservative offense coach Gregg Popovich runs in San Antonio. In New Jersey everything runs through Kidd. In San Antonio, everything runs through Duncan. If the two teamed up, something would have to give. Kidd's afraid that it would be his signature up-and-down game that would take the hit.

If Kidd decides that the Spurs aren't a good fit, he doesn't have a lot of great options. Denver, Utah and the Clippers won't put him any closer to a championship. He's not going to sign for the mid-level exception with a contender. He could try to force a sign-and-trade, but would the Nets really play ball?

If Kidd did go the sign-and-trade route, it would be to get him back on the West Coast. The only two teams that would make any sense would be the Warriors and Sonics. However, both teams failed to make the playoffs this season and neither team has enough talent to lure the Nets into that transaction. Even if they did strip mine their roster to get Kidd, wouldn't that defeat the purpose?

If Kidd really wants to win a championship, he's really only got two choices: re-sign with the Nets and hope that Martin, Jefferson and Krstic continue to develop or swallow his pride, sign with the Spurs and ride Duncan's coattails into the sunset.

that according to ESPN.

Kidd really has 2 choices, stay with the nets or go to the spurs. IF he stays with the nets, he plays his game, he controls everything about that team, if he goes to the spurs, he has to learn to play Popovich / duncans game.

that or sign and trade, either way Nets come out ahead.

 

[Aceshigh]

Steve Francis and Yao Ming will be a better tandem than Kidd/Duncan would be.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Aceshigh
Steve Francis and Yao Ming will be a better tandem than Kidd/Duncan would be.

mb eventually, not next season.

 

[b0red]

what about clippers? they have money to spend.

heh

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
In my opinion, Duncan Kidd could be better than Kobe Shaq. Kidd, Parker, Jackson could run the break as well as the NJ team did, TD is an awesome rebounder and outlet passer. Rose can run tho mb not as well as KMart. Question is, who does SA get to replace the Admiral.

OTOH, I like NJ w/o Kidd. gives them some room to work. I'd trade Mutombo to someone looking to shed contract (Next year is his last year right?). Trade Kittles and RJ for a real Shooting Guard, mb they can work something out with the Knicks.

Get G Payton to replace Kidd, mb get Alan Houston from Knicks for Mutombo and mb kittles or RJ. then you have it.

G. Payton, Houston, KMart (at SF), Williams (PF) and Collins.

I could live with that starting five.

So can I.

 

[UncleWai]

Karl Malone anyone?
Karl and Duncan together equals total domination in the paint.
Being a hardcore Sonics fan, I really want Gary Payton to somehow join the Spurs and win a championship.

 

[Dudd]

Keep Parker around. Sure, he tailed off in the final 3 or 4 games of the series, but he's so young. In another 2, 3, 4 years, he should be able to be more consistent and stop the up and down play, and he'll still be in his early to mid twenties. Getting Kidd will be a huge mistake.

 

[CrazyPerson]

i will take on Shaq/Kobe anytime...
PS2

 

[prontospyder]

Originally posted by: Stark
1. Notice how all the Spurs were praising the team because they had high character guys? That's why they don't need a head-case like J. O'neal.

2. JKidd is not going to SA because the media market isn't big enough for his wife's career. Think Gretzky late in his career... LA and NY to make Janet happy. Mrs. Kidd has him wrapped around her finger... Jason, I want you to play for the Clippers in LA. No, you say? Are you going to make me do an Edward Norton from Fight Club and punch myself in the face and call my friends at the news station? I thought you'd see it my way... now go call Sleazy Sterling.

3. Do not expect the Spurs to repeat. The Lakers used to roll over them in the 4th quarter because they played just like they did in the finals. If Kupcheck does his job this summer, they'll knock the Spurs out again next year.

4. The nets are done. They are the Utah Jazz of the eastern conference. KMart has no heart and won't win without kidd.

It will be interesting to see what happens with teams like Detroit, Seattle, Dallas (see if that huge payroll was worth barely beating the Kings for 3rd place), LA, Portland and Sac. This should be an offseason where some great teams are built or dismantled.

Nicely said.