Kid stuck in a chair? whip out your cell phone..

[ch33zw1z]

http://www.14news.com/story/24812844/teacher-records-autistic-boy-stuck-in-chair

GOODRICH, MI (WNEM) -

An 11-year old autistic child gets his head stuck in a classroom chair but instead of helping, the teacher recorded it.

The incident happened in a fifth grade classroom at Oaktree Elementary in Goodrich last November.

Officials say the teacher, Nicole Mcvey, recorded it all on her cell phone as the rest of the class stood by.

You can hear the teacher ask him if he wants to get tasered and then the principal comes in referring to it not being an emergency. He resigned shortly after.

At a meeting Monday night, parents rallied behind her at the school board meeting.

Patrick Greenfelder was hired by the boy's family as the incident has sparked so much controversy in the community.

Greenfelder says the teacher is on paid administrative leave while private tenure hearings debating her future take place.

Late last year the board voted to fire her.

Goodrich Superintendent Scott Bogner sent TV5 this statement.

Under Michigan's tenure law, that teacher has a right to a private hearing of any charges against her. The district is obligated to respect that right and will not discuss specifics of this case.

Greenfielder says the incident happened in November and the community has rallied behind teacher without seeing this video. At the Goodrich school board meeting, parents continued to stick by her.

We're told the boy was stuck in the chair for roughly ten to fifteen minutes.

His parents' attorney says they are considering a lawsuit against the school district, but they want to wait and see how the tenure hearings playout for the teacher involved.

Attorney Greenfelder has told me that the video was distributed to not just school staff, but to the friends of the principal and teacher who were not school staff. He says this is a violation of the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and contradicts the argument that this was a "teaching moment."

I don't know if we have all the details. But if this article is accurate, I hope she's fired.

 

[mikeymikec]

I agree with you.

Great job teacher. Teach the other kids that it's OK to mock disability.

 

[PottedMeat]

yeah that sounds pretty bad

Officials say the teacher, Nicole Mcvey, recorded it all on her cell phone as the rest of the class stood by.

You can hear the teacher ask him if he wants to get tasered and then the principal comes in referring to it not being an emergency. He resigned shortly after.

(pic i saw a long time ago on the interwebs)

 

[Texashiker]

I see no problem here.

Maybe next time the kid will not stick his head in a chair.

 

[Nintendesert]

I see no problem here.

Maybe next time the kid will not stick his head in a chair.

How'd that work out with you and your ass?

 

[ch33zw1z]

I see no problem here.

I'm not surprised.

Maybe next time the kid will not stick his head in a chair.

Maybe, maybe not. He's autistic.

 

[Texashiker]

Maybe, maybe not. He's autistic.

If there are no consequences, there is no deterrent.

If you do want to get filmed and laughed at, do not stick your head in a chair.

~ EDIT ~

It is not like the kid got snake bit, or suffered any permanent damage, had his hand cut off in shop class,,,,, nothing like that happened.

He got his head stuck in a chair, everyone had a good laugh, now get over it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

If there are no consequences, there is no deterrent.

If you do want to get filmed and laughed at, do not stick your head in a chair.

So never been around kids with autism, eh?

It is not like the kid got snake bit, or suffered any permanent damage, had his hand cut off in shop class,,,,, nothing like that happened.

He got his head stuck in a chair, everyone had a good laugh, now get over it.

Our opinions differ. The teachers behavior is what's in question. No students have been cited at being in trouble for laughing at the kid. The teachers behavior and actions were not what's required of someone in her position. Don't want to get fired? Don't film autistic kid with his head stuck in a chair. If ther's no consequences, there's no deterrent....sounds familiar.

 

[brandonb]

Teachers are a profession that needs a higher level of integrity and professionalism. Much like the police.

She needed to step in as the advocate for this kid. Whether or not she found it funny or not.

 

[radtechtips]

He probably got vaccinated

 

[mikeymikec]

I can imagine TH being this kid's father.

"Did you get laughed at in school today again son? Aww, well perhaps you should take the time to be a bit less autistic." ... followed by a footballing anecdote-come-pep-talk.

Later he would visit this forum and preach to everyone about how supportive a dad he is, and say how bad it is to treat disabled kids in any sort of unusual/special way.

 

[Texashiker]

So never been around kids with autism, eh?

I have been around a bunch of kids with autism.

What do you suggest? Pamper and baby them? Or let them learn their actions will have consequences?

I can imagine TH being this kid's father.

"Did you get laughed at in school today again son? Aww, well perhaps you should take the time to be a bit less autistic." ... followed by a footballing anecdote-come-pep-talk.

Hell yea.

Your teacher filmed you stuck in a chair, and she did not post in on facebook? I would have been laughing at that one.

I would tell him straight up, you think that is bad? I cut my leg open with a chainsaw. And you are going to complain about a chair?

One time I smashed my finger open with a 2 inch thick piece of steel.

So excuse me if I do not make a big deal of some kid getting his head stuck in a chair. Oh poor baby. If that is all that has happened to you, consider yourself lucky.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Does anyone know what the schools policy is concerning teachers providing aid? What if the teacher is not qualified to provide aid? Is she the one that summoned the principal?

I know where I work and in many client facilities where I've worked there's a policy in place that states unless you're trained to provide aid under no circumstances are you allowed to do so. I suspect this policy and any similar policies have more to do with liability than anything else.

 

[mikeymikec]

TH, I wasn't joking. You might be joking with the above post, but I wasn't.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I have been around a bunch of kids with autism.

What do you suggest? Pamper and baby them? Or let them learn their actions will have consequences?

Bullshit you have. If you had, then you would know that how they learn is not how we would learn.

This kid may very well learn that putting his head in a chair is a bad idea. And that is different than being filmed and laughed at by the teacher, aka person in charge.

What she did was completely inapproriate. Your lack of understanding and empathy is not surprising.

I suggest you help the kid out, not ridicule them.

 

[Texashiker]

TH, I wasn't joking. You might be joking with the above post, but I wasn't.

I am not joking either.

Kid gets his head stuck in a chair, teacher films it, so what?

Its not like the teacher ass raped the kid while his head was down.

What she did was completely inapproriate. Your lack of understanding and empathy is not surprising.

I suggest you help the kid out, not ridicule them.

What she did was not inappropriate, it is what we as a people do.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Does anyone know what the schools policy is concerning teachers providing aid? What if the teacher is not qualified to provide aid? Is she the one that summoned the principal?

I know where I work and in many client facilities where I've worked there's a policy in place that states unless you're trained to provide aid under no circumstances are you allowed to do so. I suspect this policy and any similar policies have more to do with liability than anything else.

I understand where you're coming from. Not providing aid is one thing, filming at autistic kid (who is also your student) with his head stuck in a chair is still inappropriate.

 

[Texashiker]

filming at autistic kid (who is also your student) with his head stuck in a chair is still inappropriate.

Poor baby.

I can promise you worse things are going to happen in life.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Poor baby.

I can promise you worse things are going to happen in life.

Yea, I might have to pay for elective healthcare procedures. OMG!!

 

[ch33zw1z]

What she did was not inappropriate, it is what we as a people do.

Speak for yourself. It's what people like you would do.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I understand where you're coming from. Not providing aid is one thing, filming at autistic kid (who is also your student) with his head stuck in a chair is still inappropriate.

It's inappropriate to a certain extent as part of the reason she filmed could have been to prove that she called the principal and refrained from providing aid. I don't think anyone knows what her intentions were at the time. Who's to say that this was done to prove what she has to deal with on a recurring basis.

 

[Texashiker]

Speak for yourself. It's what people like you would do.

And?

If being stuck in a chair is "all" that happened to him, he should consider himself lucky.

Teacher filmed him, so what. No harm no foul.

 

[VashHT]

I'll just leave this here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2363673&highlight=bully+teacher

Maybe this kid will still be traumatized by this 27 years later...

 

[Texashiker]

I'll just leave this here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2363673&highlight=bully+teacher

Maybe this kid will still be traumatized by this 27 years later...

And what did the people in that thread tell me?

But yet you bleeding hearts feel sorry for some kid?

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's inappropriate to a certain extent as part of the reason she filmed could have been to prove that she called the principal and refrained from providing aid. I don't think anyone knows what her intentions were at the time. Who's to say that this was done to prove what she has to deal with on a recurring basis.

I get what you're saying. a couple thoughts...

-She wouldn't need a 10-15 minute video to prove what she has to deal with day to day.
-If, IF that's what she was doing, then distributing it to other people inside and outside of the school was the wrong thing to do. Filming it for proof of trouble in the classroom would require the video to be given to a very select few of school officials.
-The principal resigned shortly after the incident, we don't if it was related.

Like I said in my original post, I don't know if we have all the details.