Kid commits suicide, cites bullying as the cause..

[Syringer]

http://www.boston.com/news/loc...=Well_MostPop_Emailed1

Awful 🙁

 

[geno]

He also left his Pokemon games and cards to his 6-year-old brother.

That's just really really sad to read, for some reason

 

[UnatcoAgent]

That is really sad.

 

[Zenmervolt]

From the article:

"When we would see this (bullying), we would sit them down and tell them this is not an appropriate way to act,"

Well gee, maybe if you had, you know, punished them you would have gotten results.

the school issues a policy handbook on bullying to all students and makes them sign an agreement to treat each other with respect.

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that a piece of paper didn't magically stop bullying.

What ever happened to detentions and suspensions? There comes a point where you need to do more than just talk with the bullies and it's ridiculous to me the people actually think that policy handbooks and signed agreements are the answer.

ZV

 

[Fritzo]

The bullies themselves are usually the result of a poor family life. This is more of a society problem than anything. Unstable homes are starting to become the norm, which results in unstable children.

 

[BW86]

🙁

 

[KnickNut3]

Coddling is not the way to punish kids these days. Obviously they don't have personal respect for each other, that's why they bully people in the first place. They obviously have no respect for a piece of paper or a "respectful talking to." I mean super nanny gives them a respectful talking to, but then sits them in the corner for an hour, too.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

"When we would see this (bullying), we would sit them down and tell them this is not an appropriate way to act,"

Well gee, maybe if you had, you know, punished them you would have gotten results.

the school issues a policy handbook on bullying to all students and makes them sign an agreement to treat each other with respect.

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that a piece of paper didn't magically stop bullying.

What ever happened to detentions and suspensions? There comes a point where you need to do more than just talk with the bullies and it's ridiculous to me the people actually think that policy handbooks and signed agreements are the answer.

ZV

Signing policy agreements is nothing more than a document to cover the school district's ass in situations such as these. You and I both know that it won't stop bullying, and honestly, the school knows it too. The problem with giving kids detentions and whatnot these days is that unless they're actually caught in the act of doing something wrong, it's hard to give them detentions. Unless you have proof, I'd be willing to bet some helicopter parents will swoop in and threaten the school with legal action and/or other things until they give in to the parents' demands. It's bullying in a different way, which is both sad and ironic. You'd actually be shocked at the state of some parts of our educational system. I call my mom every so often and she always has some appalling stories to share (she's a middle school teacher). But I digress.

 

[dguy6789]

This is extremely sad 🙁

 

[waffleironhead]

Truly a shame.

There was a thread about bullying on here sometime last year, and the general consensus was that it was required to make "Men" out of the target. Picking/bullying kids was required to deny the pussification of america. I disagreed whole heartedly, but was in the minority it seemed.

 

[Pegun]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

What ever happened to detentions and suspensions? There comes a point where you need to do more than just talk with the bullies and it's ridiculous to me the people actually think that policy handbooks and signed agreements are the answer.

Completely agreed. They used to put us in a 10 by 10 room and tell us we couldn't leave (in school suspension). These kids need to be punished and then their parents punished for letting them get away with it.

 

[alkemyst]

A lot of it has to do too with many parents encouraging their kids to taunt and make fun (possibly thinking they are turning the tables on how they were treated) and even teachers adding to the commentary.

It's sad. No one gives a shit anymore. It's one thing to goof on someone for a day, maybe even beat their ass..but today it never ends. People post stuff online, gang up and daily beatdown someone, steal from them, etc.

Until the parents take responsibility and are held accountable it's just going to get worse.

I feel any minor that goes off and commits what would be a felony for an adult should have their parents serving the sentence. The first crime is 'free' on this...let the parents use it as a wake up call to get their kid help and start being parents.

Second time that first sentence also gets tagged on though. I think this would stop a whole bunch of problems.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Truly a shame.

There was a thread about bullying on here sometime last year, and the general consensus was that it was required to make "Men" out of the target. Picking/bullying kids was required to deny the pussification of america. I disagreed whole heartedly, but was in the minority it seemed.

Bullying doesn't make a "man" out of anyone; it just lowers self-esteem. Having a good father and the appropriate challenges/support makes a man out of you.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

"When we would see this (bullying), we would sit them down and tell them this is not an appropriate way to act,"

Well gee, maybe if you had, you know, punished them you would have gotten results.

the school issues a policy handbook on bullying to all students and makes them sign an agreement to treat each other with respect.

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that a piece of paper didn't magically stop bullying.

What ever happened to detentions and suspensions? There comes a point where you need to do more than just talk with the bullies and it's ridiculous to me the people actually think that policy handbooks and signed agreements are the answer.

ZV

Signing policy agreements is nothing more than a document to cover the school district's ass in situations such as these. You and I both know that it won't stop bullying, and honestly, the school knows it too. The problem with giving kids detentions and whatnot these days is that unless they're actually caught in the act of doing something wrong, it's hard to give them detentions. Unless you have proof, I'd be willing to bet some helicopter parents will swoop in and threaten the school with legal action and/or other things until they give in to the parents' demands. It's bullying in a different way, which is both sad and ironic. You'd actually be shocked at the state of some parts of our educational system. I call my mom every so often and she always has some appalling stories to share (she's a middle school teacher). But I digress.

Story!

 

[randay]

physical violence is the only answer, bring back paddles.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Truly a shame.

There was a thread about bullying on here sometime last year, and the general consensus was that it was required to make "Men" out of the target. Picking/bullying kids was required to deny the pussification of america. I disagreed whole heartedly, but was in the minority it seemed.

I was bullied in grade school, and had life long psychological ramifications because of it. To this day I'm afraid of new people, I don't like to socialize or talk, and I'm afraid to play sports. I'm a guitarist and even had issues playing in front of people due to confidence issues. I've gotten better over the last decade because I felt empowered by by position at work, but I can see how people can be made to feel worthless.

Kids that bully others are usually not made to feel loved at home, so they do what they can to feel empowered in situations they can control.

 

[n yusef]

You guys all seemed to forget one of the most important details. He was called gay, and told he acted like a girl. Those two things should not be insults. But they are, and they are normalized in society. I see them used frequently on this forum. I wonder if any school faculty told these kids that it's not OK to attack people for not conforming to gender or sexuality norms. When I was in school, you could call someone a i love you and get ignored, but call someone a dumb ass and you got in trouble.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: James Bond

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

"When we would see this (bullying), we would sit them down and tell them this is not an appropriate way to act,"

Well gee, maybe if you had, you know, punished them you would have gotten results.

the school issues a policy handbook on bullying to all students and makes them sign an agreement to treat each other with respect.

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that a piece of paper didn't magically stop bullying.

What ever happened to detentions and suspensions? There comes a point where you need to do more than just talk with the bullies and it's ridiculous to me the people actually think that policy handbooks and signed agreements are the answer.

ZV

Signing policy agreements is nothing more than a document to cover the school district's ass in situations such as these. You and I both know that it won't stop bullying, and honestly, the school knows it too. The problem with giving kids detentions and whatnot these days is that unless they're actually caught in the act of doing something wrong, it's hard to give them detentions. Unless you have proof, I'd be willing to bet some helicopter parents will swoop in and threaten the school with legal action and/or other things until they give in to the parents' demands. It's bullying in a different way, which is both sad and ironic. You'd actually be shocked at the state of some parts of our educational system. I call my mom every so often and she always has some appalling stories to share (she's a middle school teacher). But I digress.

Story!

One of her former students was, for all intents and purposes, a little shit. Bad kid, didn't do work, you know the drill. The only difference was, his parents were the worst helicopter parents anyone had ever met. It was so bad that the parents brought an attorney with them to every parent-teacher conference. IIRC, this was also the same kid who brought a tape recorder into class and hid it in his backpack to record everything my mom and her assistant said.

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Until the parents take responsibility and are held accountable it's just going to get worse.

I feel this is a big problem in our society today leading to many different issues. The lack of parent accountability never ceases to amaze me

 

[purbeast0]

while it is extremely sad what happened here, this kid obviously had many many other issues.

bullying has been going on for centuries and people can overcome it.

 

[spaceman]

interesting fact: this article contains an hero 🙁

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Truly a shame.

There was a thread about bullying on here sometime last year, and the general consensus was that it was required to make "Men" out of the target. Picking/bullying kids was required to deny the pussification of america. I disagreed whole heartedly, but was in the minority it seemed.

I was bullied in grade school, and had life long psychological ramifications because of it. To this day I'm afraid of new people, I don't like to socialize or talk, and I'm afraid to play sports. I'm a guitarist and even had issues playing in front of people due to confidence issues. I've gotten better over the last decade because I felt empowered by by position at work, but I can see how people can be made to feel worthless.

Kids that bully others are usually not made to feel loved at home, so they do what they can to feel empowered in situations they can control.

This.

Children (and unfortunately, many adults) feel that status is a zero-sum game; the empowerment of one party must come from the loss of another party.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: James Bond

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

"When we would see this (bullying), we would sit them down and tell them this is not an appropriate way to act,"

Well gee, maybe if you had, you know, punished them you would have gotten results.

the school issues a policy handbook on bullying to all students and makes them sign an agreement to treat each other with respect.

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that a piece of paper didn't magically stop bullying.

What ever happened to detentions and suspensions? There comes a point where you need to do more than just talk with the bullies and it's ridiculous to me the people actually think that policy handbooks and signed agreements are the answer.

ZV

Signing policy agreements is nothing more than a document to cover the school district's ass in situations such as these. You and I both know that it won't stop bullying, and honestly, the school knows it too. The problem with giving kids detentions and whatnot these days is that unless they're actually caught in the act of doing something wrong, it's hard to give them detentions. Unless you have proof, I'd be willing to bet some helicopter parents will swoop in and threaten the school with legal action and/or other things until they give in to the parents' demands. It's bullying in a different way, which is both sad and ironic. You'd actually be shocked at the state of some parts of our educational system. I call my mom every so often and she always has some appalling stories to share (she's a middle school teacher). But I digress.

Story!

One of her former students was, for all intents and purposes, a little shit. Bad kid, didn't do work, you know the drill. The only difference was, his parents were the worst helicopter parents anyone had ever met. It was so bad that the parents brought an attorney with them to every parent-teacher conference. IIRC, this was also the same kid who brought a tape recorder into class and hid it in his backpack to record everything my mom and her assistant said.

The first part sounds bad, but what is wrong with the tape recorder? It's a bit ridiculous, but your mother isn't saying anything inappropriate, is she?

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

"When we would see this (bullying), we would sit them down and tell them this is not an appropriate way to act,"

Well gee, maybe if you had, you know, punished them you would have gotten results.

the school issues a policy handbook on bullying to all students and makes them sign an agreement to treat each other with respect.

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that a piece of paper didn't magically stop bullying.

What ever happened to detentions and suspensions? There comes a point where you need to do more than just talk with the bullies and it's ridiculous to me the people actually think that policy handbooks and signed agreements are the answer.

ZV

i totally agree with this.

and that mom should have yanked him out of that "diverse" school and put him back into public school at many points before this actually happened.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

"When we would see this (bullying), we would sit them down and tell them this is not an appropriate way to act,"

Well gee, maybe if you had, you know, punished them you would have gotten results.

the school issues a policy handbook on bullying to all students and makes them sign an agreement to treat each other with respect.

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that a piece of paper didn't magically stop bullying.

What ever happened to detentions and suspensions? There comes a point where you need to do more than just talk with the bullies and it's ridiculous to me the people actually think that policy handbooks and signed agreements are the answer.

ZV

i totally agree with this.

and that mom should have yanked him out of that "diverse" school and put him back into public school at many points before this actually happened.

Because there's no bullying in public school...