KGB Defector Speaks About Introduction Of Politcal "Messiahs"

[Butterbean]

A KGB defector recorded some rare interviews in the early 1980's. These interviews have recently re-surfaced (not harrd to see how they were ignored - hot hot hot). The interviews cover his childhood, training - and the operations he conducted in India and Southeast Asia. He said average Americans had the wrong idea about KGB - who (he said) often equated it with a "James Bond" type outfit dedicated to surveillance of the military etc.

The KGB was more dedicated to political and ideological subversion -"active measures" he calls them. These measures were not even covert but "out in the open" and involved sowing seeds of confusion and dissent so that society could not function after being bogged
down with too much conflict and indecision.

In the recently re-discovered video linked below (someone from South America who knows Marxists very well recently brought interview back into view), defector describes how after a period of stress and demoralisation, a Marxist, political messiah can be intentionally inserted from some quarter. He goes on to say that the people being used politically at this point will be disposed of latter on. All the liberal/Marxist agitators will need to be eliminated.

"Sleepers Emerge and Messiah Appears"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...udOekY&feature=related

The full 7 parts of the interview can also be seen. This should be required material in all schools and universities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...245842658CE1AF&index=0


On "Demoralization In America"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo


On killing the Marxists/Liberals after the fall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE38dLxapVo


*Eskipup suggested I should make a thread with my take on things so I will use him/her as an excuse. I have on my ABS (asbestos posting suit) so save at least halve the firebombs for the pupster

 

[Farang]

i :heart: u butter

welcome back

 

[Vic]

Ahh... paleoconservatives... always convinced that God is punishing us for things that have nothing with our problems. No sense of causality whatsoever. If the market crashes, it must be the gays! If a hurricane hits the east coast, it must be the liberals! Oh, to be so lost in primitive shamanism!

 

[alchemize]

BB is a breed all his own lol...

Have you noticed that the 9/11 crazies got replaced with ron paul crazies now with the obama conspiracy crazies? Of course they are all swimming in the same shallow gene pool...

 

[sandorski]

Bush was marketed as a Messiah.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: alchemize
BB is a breed all his own lol...

Have you noticed that the 9/11 crazies got replaced with ron paul crazies now with the obama conspiracy crazies? Of course they are all swimming in the same shallow gene pool...

they wre all the same crazies imo

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Is this a right-wing spin on the people that used to trot out the Hermann Goering quotes?

 

[Goosemaster]

However you choose to interpret that with respect to Obama, there is almost no denying that Bush was pushed as one of these and they sadly did a very good job in its execution too.
With as little bias as I can, I dare say that Obama will have a really REALLY REALLY hard time living up to the faux that Bush was.

 

[jjzelinski]

For what it's worth I found the theory interesting and plausible. Kind of reminds of judo, for lack of a better way to put it, in that you use your opponents energy/momentum against them.

 

[alien42]

messiah?

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Is this a right-wing spin on the people that used to trot out the Hermann Goering quotes?

Don't you mean Joseph Goebbels?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Is this a right-wing spin on the people that used to trot out the Hermann Goering quotes?

Don't you mean Joseph Goebbels?

No, I mean Goering. Specifically this quote:

"Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country"

 

[Craig234]

So then, all those radical evangelicals who put Bush in office because he was willing to align himself with teir religion, talk about his religious inspiration for his policies...

 

[Butterbean]

Originally posted by: Vic
Ahh... paleoconservatives... always convinced that God is punishing us for things that have nothing with our problems. No sense of causality whatsoever. If the market crashes, it must be the gays! If a hurricane hits the east coast, it must be the liberals! Oh, to be so lost in primitive shamanism!

Vic -I know your a smart guy and can do better than that

 

[Butterbean]

Originally posted by: alchemize
BB is a breed all his own lol...

LOLOLOL!!! 11!11 1

I'll take it : )

 

[Zebo]

I've always thought you end of the world types, Jesus freaks, nukes, Peak oil, population timebomb whatever types were nuts until now. We truly are in for a world of hurt. But you can profit from it too. Dollar is strong. Shorting. PREPARE...don't Fear...as long as you have savings read my Budget survivalist guide and strengthen your relationships with family and friends you'll be fine.

And no I don't believe your crap or that Obama is Manchurian candidate or anything like that he's just a socialist for top and bottom who will have producers cowering, saving, taking to ground until he relents or they get their guy.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I've always thought you end of the world types, Jesus freaks, nukes, Peak oil, population timebomb whatever types were nuts until now. We truly are in for a world of hurt. But you can profit from it too. Dollar is strong. Shorting. PREPARE...don't Fear...as long as you have savings read my Budget survivalist guide and strengthen your relationships with family and friends you'll be fine.

And no I don't believe your crap or that Obama is Manchurian candidate or anything like that he's just a socialist for top and bottom who will have producers cowering, saving, taking to ground until he relents or they get their guy.

rofl.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Before end of 2009

*Dow less than 2500
*Unemployment 20%
*Riots will break out around the world and USA

rofl x 2. :laugh:

 

[Born2bwire]

He's back!!!!

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Is this a right-wing spin on the people that used to trot out the Hermann Goering quotes?

Don't you mean Joseph Goebbels?

No, I mean Goering. Specifically this quote:

"Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country"

You still don't realise that is how the Cheney administration tricked us into Iraq, eh?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Zebo
Before end of 2009

*Dow less than 2500
*Unemployment 20%
*Riots will break out around the world and USA

rofl x 2. :laugh:

Nobody is saying it is the end of the world. But all indications we are entering a depression and still have to deleverage the largest credit bubble in history. Japan is reporting a 46% drop in exports for an export country that is a depession. China's numbers are not in and neither are our lack of profits and layoffs fully realized. You may laugh but threat of global instability is very real too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02...=3&partner=rss&emc=rss

I would say by summer those predictions will come true but I'm optimist. :laugh:

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Butterbean

blah blah blah - psychotic rant....

Crazeeeeeeeeee ...... I'm crazy for feeeeeeeling this waaaaaaaaaay!!!!

 

[NeoV]

any resemblance to the actual world in this thread, or any by this op, is purely coincidental

Did your Rx run out BB?

Btw, it's "you're" smarter than that, not "your"

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Is this a right-wing spin on the people that used to trot out the Hermann Goering quotes?

Don't you mean Joseph Goebbels?

No, I mean Goering. Specifically this quote:

"Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country"

You still don't realise that is how the Cheney administration tricked us into Iraq, eh?

Congrats on being Butterbean's mirror image on the left.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Is this a right-wing spin on the people that used to trot out the Hermann Goering quotes?

Don't you mean Joseph Goebbels?

No, I mean Goering. Specifically this quote:

"Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country"

You still don't realise that is how the Cheney administration tricked us into Iraq, eh?

Congrats on being Butterbean's mirror image on the left.

So they didn't have an agenda and all of the former administration officials saying they had an agenda are lying? Riiiight.