Keystoned? Exxon under fire as 10k barrels of oil spills on streets, floods Arkansas

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ExxonMobil is continuing cleanup operations after an oil pipeline spilled thousands of barrels of Canadian crude in Arkansas. The spill has led many to speak out against oil sands exploitation and the construction of Keystone XL pipeline.

Exxon's Pegasus pipeline – which can carry more than 90,000 barrels of Canadian Heavy crude oil per day from Patoka, Illinois, to Nederland, Texas – was shut down after the leak was discovered on Friday in a suburban area near the town of Mayflower, Arkansas.

Shocking amateur video recorded by a resident that went viral, showing the immediate aftermath of the spill as streets flooded and oil burst forth:

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"The smell is quite horrendous both outside and inside our home. There is a strong smell of oil in our vehicles, as well," resident Chris Harrell told RT.

Twenty-two homes have been evacuated so far, and more are expected. "Excavation is necessary as part of an investigation to determine the cause of the incident," Exxon spokesperson Alan Jeffers told Reuters.

The accident has left evacuated residents seeking shelter elsewhere. "Basically if it doesn't fit in our car we don't have it right now," local resident Ryan Senia said. He had previously listed his home for sale, but said the spill has forced him to take it off the market.

The spill totaled upwards of 10,000 barrels, according to an ExxonMobil press release. So far, about 12,000 barrels of oil and water have reportedly been recovered. The company has deployed 15 vacuum trucks, 33 storage tanks and 120 workers to the cleanup site.

"There are literally hundreds of cleanup crew people in our area...no one has a definite time frame on how long they will be here, but some people are saying months," Harrell said.

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A 3,600-foot boom was also installed near Lake Conway, and an approximately 51-centimeter pipeline was shut down to prevent the spilled oil from reaching the water. So far, no oil has reached the lake.

The cause of the spill is being investigated, and cleanup operations are being coordinated with the Department of Emergency Management and other local authorities.

Meanwhile, the community is anxious to see how the oil giant plans to handle the situation: "The major concern for many people in our neighborhood is the long-term impact, both environmentally and financially. For example, what is this going to do to our property values?" Harrell said. He added that many local residents are angry, and were not aware that the pipeline ran through the area.

Local media reported that journalists were barred from entering the site for over 30 hours following the disaster.

The leak comes amid growing opposition to the controversial Keystone XL project, which would see an oil pipeline run across the US Midwest. TransCanada Corp.'s plan to pipe Alberta oil sands to the US Gulf Coast has been met with criticism over the possible environmental impact.

The project has been embroiled in ongoing controversy. Project supporters have worked to persuade the US to approve the $7-billion project, arguing that the Keystone XL would create thousands of new jobs and free the country from energy dependence on South American exporters such as Venezuela. However, environmentalists have expressed concerns over the pollution risks inherent to the controversial tar sands method of oil production.

Even the US State Department admits the Keystone project will create "numerous" and "substantial" impacts on the environment.

In a March draft environmental impact statement, the US said that the Canadian synthetic crude oil the pipeline is slated to transport into the US produces 17 per cent more greenhouse gases than natural crude oil already refined there. It also said that the construction phase of the project would result in carbon dioxide emissions equivalent to about 626,000 passenger vehicles operating for one year.

The report also said the pipeline could disturb highly erodible soil, degrade streams, encroach on habitats of federally protected species, and be susceptible to potentially disastrous leaks and spills.

But despite its environmental toll, the US says the Keystone pipeline it is still a better option than proposed alternatives which are “not reasonable.”

President Barack Obama will have the final say on the project, which has been pending for more than four years, as environmental activists battle to kill it.

You can see the video (of what looks like a flooded neighborhood, but its not water its black oil) here
 

Londo_Jowo

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Great Idea putting a pipeline there you have to be the stupidest state in the country' I pray Washington state sticks up to these pathetic nature resource- refiners!

I don't see any houses in that area that were built in the 1940's when this pipeline was built.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/class...peline-spillbre92u002-20130330,0,446829.story

Some, like Pegasus, were built earlier. Exxon spokesman Charles Engelmann said the ruptured section of the pipeline was installed in the late 1940s.
 

monovillage

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I feel awful about this. In protest I think every environmentally conscious person needs to boycott using any petroleum based products for the rest of their short and dirty lives.
 

nehalem256

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So is the argument liberals are putting forth is that if something could possibly go wrong with something it should be banned?

So should we ban wind power because the turbine blades could possibly fall off and hit someone?
 

ivwshane

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I feel awful about this. In protest I think every environmentally conscious person needs to boycott using any petroleum based products for the rest of their short and dirty lives.

So is the argument liberals are putting forth is that if something could possibly go wrong with something it should be banned?

So should we ban wind power because the turbine blades could possibly fall off and hit someone?


Do you guys live on a farm and grow hay? Because you guys seem to have an endless supply of straw men.

Ban oil? Where do you idiots come up with this shit?

The point is to make sure this kind of shit doesn't happen and to take every realistic means necessary to prevent it from happening including making well informed decisions on where and how the keystone pipeline is built.

Yean I know, good planning is for dirty liberals.
 

nehalem256

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Ban oil? Where do you idiots come up with this shit?

How about the 2nd sentence of the original post?

ExxonMobil is continuing cleanup operations after an oil pipeline spilled thousands of barrels of Canadian crude in Arkansas. The spill has led many to speak out against oil sands exploitation and the construction of Keystone XL pipeline.

And by question I think it is pretty clear they want to stop oil production from the oil sands, and not build the Keystone XL pipeline (which has already been under consideration for a longer duration than the length of the US involvement in WW2).

So I say if you don't want to drill for oil. And you don't want pipelines to construct oil. Is that not banning oil?
 

Fenixgoon

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60 year-old pipeline...it's bound to corrode at some point, TBH, just a matter of when, not if.

now, if exxon poorly managed the maintenance and lifing of said pipeline, that's another story.
 

ivwshane

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How about the 2nd sentence of the original post?



And by question I think it is pretty clear they want to stop oil production from the oil sands, and not build the Keystone XL pipeline (which has already been under consideration for a longer duration than the length of the US involvement in WW2).

So I say if you don't want to drill for oil. And you don't want pipelines to construct oil. Is that not banning oil?

No it's not banning oil you idoit!
 

Franz316

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How in the world does Exxon allow the Canadian oil which is HIGHLY corrosive bitumen, to flow through a 60 year-old pipeline? That is just asking for disaster.
 

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How about the 2nd sentence of the original post?



And by question I think it is pretty clear they want to stop oil production from the oil sands, and not build the Keystone XL pipeline (which has already been under consideration for a longer duration than the length of the US involvement in WW2).

So I say if you don't want to drill for oil. And you don't want pipelines to construct oil. Is that not banning oil?

It is not banning oil. Drilling for oil and gas is booming. Just not on public lands. I am not for squandering our oil reserves on public lands all willy nilly. Public lands should be the last to be used.

As for OCS drilling. OCS drilling was only opened up when Bush in the twilight of his lame duck presidency, opened it up. Bypassing everyone. Obama went back to the 20+ year status quo. And its not banning drilling. Its banning drilling in new areas. Drilling will resume in the gulf.

Oil companies have no intention of producing off the east coast any time soon. They only want all the OCS opened so they can pad their reserves on paper(to please investors), not to actually produce it. Oil companies have only drilled a tiny fraction of their prime leases in the gulf. Like public lands, the OCS should be opened up as necessary and right now, its not necessary. The gulf can keep the oil companies quite busy for many years to come.

Keystone XL will eventually be allowed. And it should now that everything is more or less above board.

Also I love how you rah rah support one of the single biggest eminent domain land grabs in US history.
 
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yh125d

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I just finished building a natural gas compressor station that is using a propane bullet tank from 1937 as an instrument air volume tank, cause it was cheaper than a new one

Buy new tanks/pipeline, people!


Also, use natural gas instead of oil! There's tons of it, its cheap as shit, and cleaner in just about every way. When you have a natural gas "spill", it cleans itself by going into the atmosphere, which still isn't great, but is better than oil in your driveway and on your ducks and shit
 

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I just finished building a natural gas compressor station that is using a propane bullet tank from 1937 as an instrument air volume tank, cause it was cheaper than a new one

Buy new tanks/pipeline, people!


Also, use natural gas instead of oil! There's tons of it, its cheap as shit, and cleaner in just about every way. When you have a natural gas "spill", it cleans itself by going into the atmosphere, which still isn't great, but is better than oil in your driveway and on your ducks and shit

Frack that...:whiste:
 

Juror No. 8

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But, but, but... without the EPA and government regulations, greedy corporations would be spilling oil all over the place!

Oh wait...
 

monovillage

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I agree with Wreckem, I work in the oil industry up in North Dakota and I feel that we should preserve what public land we have left.

Me too! You need to quit your job and stop using all petroleum products. If you don't then you're just part of the problem, not the solution.
 

HomerJS

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Oil companies exempt from cleanup fund??

This is so distrurbing, a law from 1980 says stuff in pipeline is not oil so Exxon doesn't have to pay cleanup costs...
The central Arkansas spill caused by Exxon’s aging Pegasus pipeline has reportedly unleashed 10,000 barrels of Canadian heavy crude - but a technicality says it's not oil, letting the energy giant off the hook from paying into a national cleanup fund.

Legally speaking, diluted bitumen like the heavy crude that's overrun Mayflower, Arkansas, is not classified as 'oil'. And it's that very distinction that exempts Exxon from contributing to the government's oil spillage cleanup fund.

The value of the neighborhood has now been rendered worthless. Who pays for the houses?? Will insurance cover total loss?
 

SheHateMe

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^^ Ahh, Corporate America...exploiting those loopholes so they can fuck the citizenry.

I'd be really pissed if I lived in this neighborhood. That's just terrible. They made the mess, they should have to pay for it to be cleaned up.
 

Juddog

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Me too! You need to quit your job and stop using all petroleum products. If you don't then you're just part of the problem, not the solution.

Do you even read what you write before you post it, or do you automatically go full-retard mode? What does his statement have to do with banning oil?
 

Matt1970

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monovillage

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Do you even read what you write before you post it, or do you automatically go full-retard mode? What does his statement have to do with banning oil?

Rectum said he wanted to ban drilling of oil on public land. Do you know how much of some western states are public land?
Clue: My state is almost 50% public land, Nevada is almost 85% public land. Off shore drilling? So yes, it's a stupid statement by Rectum and I just had some fun spoofing it.