Kerry won overwhelmly in the 9/11 States

[Dari]

However, those that got affected most by the attacks went for Bush overwhelmly. The technologists and financiers in the towers and planes; the rural farmers in Pennsylvania; and the military-men in the Pentagon; and the firefighters and police officers working in the City were all pro-Bush.

As for the states themselves, it's no surprise:

In New York you have a Democrat-turned Republican mayor who could find nothing good to say about Bush. Good luck getting the rest of that $20 billion terror fund, Bloomberg. You also have the most left-leaning city outside of California.

In Pennsylvania you have the base of (the visually drunk) Marissa Heinz. You have a major city that is actively seeking the gay visitor. Finally, you have Philadelphia that is also seeking to undermine the enterprise by setting up free wireless internet access across the city. In addition to sticking it to the corporations and the good people that work for them, the crazy men and women who fanthomed this bureaucratic idea want to saddle the city with new unnecessary taxes (to pay for the wireless access) that could stay indefinitely.

In Washington DC, you have a HUGE black population that has had corrupt city leaders after corrupt city leaders. Yet, the majority keeps voting Democratic. So long as the people don't hold the leaders accountable, cronyism and corruption will be the name of the game in local DC.

 

[Rob9874]

Who are Marissa and Hugh?

 

[Kilgor]

Marissa is the rich Ketchup lady and HUGH is HUGE.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Kilgor
Marissa is the rich Ketchup lady and HUGH is HUGE.

My bad. Please forgive me.

 

[glugglug]

I call Shens Dari. Have a link to back up your claims? Particularly those about the Bush support in the city. Oh, and as for DC, by voting Democratic they WERE holding the leaders of this country accountable for the impossibly bad job they've done.

 

[b0mbrman]

Has to do with this. No big surprise

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: glugglug
I call Shens Dari. Have a link to back up your claims? Particularly those about the Bush support in the city. Oh, and as for DC, by voting Democratic they WERE holding the leaders of this country accountable for the impossibly bad job they've done.

Which facts? The one about rural Pennsylvania? Or about Philadelphia looking for gay visitors? Or about the universal wireless in Philly? Or how about the technologists and financiers in the towers? OR the firefighters and police? And when has a majority of African-American voted Republican whether or not a Republican is in power in the White House? Or maybe it's the military officers in the Pentagon? Which one? I thought all this was common knowledge.

 

[Kilgor]

DC has been run by Democrats since home rule and has got to be the most corrupt city in the nation. I doubt there one part of the DC goverment that is not corrupt they have a scandel every week. It's like a huge money pit you shovel it in and never see anything come of it. The school board got money to fix the buildings the buildings didn't get fixed but the school board had new Caddys.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Has to do with this. No big surprise

I remember this thread...this is the one where the OP claimed the whole state of TX hated Bush and used San Antonio to represent the opinion of the whole state...that was a good one...

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Dari
The technologists and financiers in the towers and planes;

Any evidence they voted for Bush? Links?

Or is this like your suicide claim?

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Dari
The technologists and financiers in the towers and planes;

Any evidence they voted for Bush? Links?

Or is this like your suicide claim?

Uh...were those financiers who worked in the towers predominantly well-off?

From this thread:

Income range (percent of total) Percent that voted for Bush - Percent that voted for Kerry
$50-75,000 (23%) 56%-43%
$75-100,000 (14%) 55%-45%
$100-150,000 (11%) 57%-42%
$150-200,000 (4%) 58%-42%
$200,000 or More (3%) 63%-35%

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Dari
The technologists and financiers in the towers and planes;

Any evidence they voted for Bush? Links?

Or is this like your suicide claim?

Uh...were those financiers who worked in the towers predominantly well-off?

From this thread:

Income range (percent of total) Percent that voted for Bush - Percent that voted for Kerry
$50-75,000 (23%) 56%-43%
$75-100,000 (14%) 55%-45%
$100-150,000 (11%) 57%-42%
$150-200,000 (4%) 58%-42%
$200,000 or More (3%) 63%-35%

Those stats are NATIONAL. They DO NOT hold true (or even close to it) for the city. Manhattan, the richest borough in the city, voted 82% against Bush. You wouldn't qualify for a 300 square ft studio here on under 50K, except in the very worst neighborhoods. I work in technology in the city, and Bush supporters are an even more extreme minority in that group I'd say, maybe 98%-2%.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Dari
The technologists and financiers in the towers and planes;

Any evidence they voted for Bush? Links?

Or is this like your suicide claim?

Uh...were those financiers who worked in the towers predominantly well-off?

From this thread:

Income range (percent of total) Percent that voted for Bush - Percent that voted for Kerry
$50-75,000 (23%) 56%-43%
$75-100,000 (14%) 55%-45%
$100-150,000 (11%) 57%-42%
$150-200,000 (4%) 58%-42%
$200,000 or More (3%) 63%-35%

I assume those numbers are national. Just because one element is part of a larger group does not mean it takes on all the characteristics of that larger groups. In other words, they were probably mostly financiers and well off but we don't know if they more Bush supporters given the numbers you have supplied. I prsume your numbers are grouping wealthy people from all over the country. EDIT: for example we don't know if the 911 financiers were in that 35% of kerry supporters for example or not.

 

[glugglug]

bah, somehow quoted instead of edited

 

[b0mbrman]

Ok, in New York then:

Under $15,000 (5%) 26% - 69%
$15-30,000 (10%) 33% - 66%
$30-50,000 (21%) 39% - 60%
$50-75,000 (23%) 46% - 53%
$75-100,000 (16%) 40% - 58%
$100-150,000 (15%) 37% - 63%
$150-200,000 (5%) 39% - 61%
$200,000 or More (6%) 57% - 42%

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Ok, in New York then:

Under $15,000 (5%) 26% - 69%
$15-30,000 (10%) 33% - 66%
$30-50,000 (21%) 39% - 60%
$50-75,000 (23%) 46% - 53%
$75-100,000 (16%) 40% - 58%
$100-150,000 (15%) 37% - 63%
$150-200,000 (5%) 39% - 61%
$200,000 or More (6%) 57% - 42%

So the majority of the people in the towers made $200,000+? Even in the $200,000+ range it is pretty close.. .

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Ok, in New York then:

Under $15,000 (5%) 26% - 69%
$15-30,000 (10%) 33% - 66%
$30-50,000 (21%) 39% - 60%
$50-75,000 (23%) 46% - 53%
$75-100,000 (16%) 40% - 58%
$100-150,000 (15%) 37% - 63%
$150-200,000 (5%) 39% - 61%
$200,000 or More (6%) 57% - 42%

See, in NY STATE, the only demographic where Bush won was $200K+ (not that shocking as Kerry promised to shift the tax burden and raise it only for that group). Very few of the technologists make that kind of money, basically just CTOs.

Those are obviously not city stats because not one of those ranges is extreme as Kerry's margin of victory in the city. In the city, I have no doubt at all that Kerry even won in the 200K+ category.

Kerry also won easily in all but one county of Connecticut, the highest earning state in the country, and most of those high earners in CT commute to the city, i.e. people that work in the towers.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Dari
In New York you have a Democrat-turned Republican mayor who could find nothing good to say about Bush. Good luck getting the rest of that $20 billion terror fund, Bloomberg. You also have the most left-leaning city outside of California.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Hint: It's not.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Those are obviously not city stats because not one of those ranges is extreme as Kerry's margin of victory in the city. In the city, I have no doubt at all that Kerry even won in the 200K+ category.

Yes. That is a fair criticism too. Again, just because a unit is part of a larger group does not mean that it takes on all of its characteristics.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Ok, in New York then:

Under $15,000 (5%) 26% - 69%
$15-30,000 (10%) 33% - 66%
$30-50,000 (21%) 39% - 60%
$50-75,000 (23%) 46% - 53%
$75-100,000 (16%) 40% - 58%
$100-150,000 (15%) 37% - 63%
$150-200,000 (5%) 39% - 61%
$200,000 or More (6%) 57% - 42%

See, in NY STATE, the only demographic where Bush won was $200K+ (not that shocking as Kerry promised to shift the tax burden and raise it only for that group). Very few of the technologists make that kind of money, basically just CTOs.

Those are obviously not city stats because not one of those ranges is extreme as Kerry's margin of victory in the city. In the city, I have no doubt at all that Kerry even won in the 200K+ category.

Kerry also won easily in all but one county of Connecticut, the highest earning state in the country, and most of those high earners in CT commute to the city, i.e. people that work in the towers.

Ok, you find the link to the exit poll re: financiers

I've been told that anecdotal evidence doesn't count...