Kerry to ask aliens for permission to use force

[classy]

I stand by what John Kerry said and I agree with it. He is right. We are called to be leaders and you can't do things in which in turn you want to punish others for. And we as a nation can't use 9/11 as a reason to conduct any kind of behavior. There are other countries who have 9/11s 2-3 times a month. And the biggest problem is that Bush used 9/11 as the basis to attack Iraq when there is no evidence that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. And to show how flip floppy Bush is, explain this to me. He used this so called intelligence of Iraq trying to buy Uranium for nuclear weapons as a basis to got to war. But now here is North Korea who we know for fact have developed nukes and we know they will use them and when it comes to them Bush says he hopes to solve it with "diplomacy". Kinda looks like a huge flip flop. But see the difference is Bush is looking to gain power over oil, which Iraq has and Korea doesn't. Bush is a a flat out liar and its a shame that he has duped so many people into believing he wants to defend the American people. Cause if he did he would have focused on getting Bin Laden and spending money on securing things here at home. In the end its all about the deal with devil and greed with the Bush adminstration.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Tempist in a tea pot. Anybody with a brain can see he means not only in the globe underground, but on the surface of the globe too.

Please explain.

A globe is a sphere. The volume of the sphere is that which is in the sphere. That would be everything below the surface of the land and water. That which is on the globe would be everything we construct above ground and all the stuff that grows there or temporarily jumps out of the sea. So obviously Kerry would want to include not just stuff under water or the surface of the land, but the people and stuff above the surface. I think that would be rather obvious, no?

 

[BBond]

I think what Kerry meant was, not just around the globe but here at home too.

 

[Infohawk]

Maybe he was talking about God you godless flip-flopping communists

 

[RabidMongoose]

Anyone know if the Martians are liberals, conservatives, or moderates?

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
10 points for using the word 'neolibs' without any hint of understanding that it actually refers to substantially the same world-view as 'neocon'.

Care to flesh that out any, as I disagree with you completely?

neoliberal

neoconservative

Sorry - the definition of neoconservative isn't very well written; the main differences are in foreign policy, and to a lesser extent more not less belief in 'big government'.

The key features of neoliberalism are a belief in free markets, and 'small government' on an ideological level; i.e. the belief that free markets with no intervention will always outperform any managed solution. Hardly a suitable term to throw around while trying to accuse democrats in the USA of being virtual-communists!

You'll note that both of these related movements are closely tied to the Reagan administration

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
10 points for using the word 'neolibs' without any hint of understanding that it actually refers to substantially the same world-view as 'neocon'.

Care to flesh that out any, as I disagree with you completely?

neoliberal

neoconservative

Sorry - the definition of neoconservative isn't very well written; the main differences are in foreign policy, and to a lesser extent more not less belief in 'big government'.

The key features of neoliberalism are a belief in free markets, and 'small government' on an ideological level; i.e. the belief that free markets with no intervention will always outperform any managed solution. Hardly a suitable term to throw around while trying to accuse democrats in the USA of being virtual-communists!

You'll note that both of these related movements are closely tied to the Reagan administration

:thumbsup:

It's hilarious when these ignorant dung-peddlers think neolib is some sort of insult as if neo is just something you append on a word to create an insult. LOL.

 

[KenSr]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Well nobody expected Kerry not to say anything stupid, you talk in public long enough and you're going to slip up.

But come on, we're not really going to try to compare Kerry to the almighty Bush, king of the mangled words, are we?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

From my now locked thread:

But to retaliate against being called a liberal, call us the opposite: conservative. Neocon is starting to sound gay. It doesn't get under my skin, it just makes you libs sound childish. I suggested you stop for your own good, as it ruins your credibility. Just like "tin foil hats" and "kool-aid".

I hate to belabor this (too late, I know), but in your own quote, aren't you using "libs" in the same way you accuse conservatives of using "neocon"?

I try not to use either, because they do IMO have a certain pejorative sound, but surely "neocon" is no worse than "lib," as long as it's used accurately.