Kerry: Not so honorably discharged?

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DT4K

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Once again, why is this still an issue? Neither candidate's service/nonservice in Vietnam makes them presidential nor more suited to be president, at least IMO.
cuz were bored. Something happened, people stopped posting about an hour ago, the threads are barely moving. Whered everyone go?

There's this thing? It's called work? You might have heard of it.

Regarding this retarded thread: Taste like whatever is simply employing the favorite Republican method for getting elected: Spread lies about your opponent, then appear magnanimous later by denying you ever believed it, while continuing to propagate the lie behind the scenes.
Bush did the same thing to John McCain. Speaking of which, I've lost all respect for McCain, after the bitch-slapping Bush gave him, he's still playing lap dog. Disgusting.

By lies, do you mean things like DNC leadership saying Bush was AWOL. Or do you mean things like Kerry saying that the economy has lost 1.6 million jobs when in fact, it is only 1/3 of that number. Or maybe you mean claiming that the war in Iraq has cost 200 billion when the actual figure is 120 billion. Or maybe you are referring to forged documents given to news stations?
 

arsbanned

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By lies, do you mean things like DNC leadership saying Bush was AWOL Or do you mean things like Kerry saying that the economy has lost 1.6 million jobs when in fact, it is only 1/3 of that number. Or maybe you mean claiming that the war in Iraq has cost 200 billion when the actual figure is 120 billion.
Those are not lies. See the difference? I knew you would.

Or maybe you are referring to forged documents given to news stations?
Karl Rove is behind that. Kerry has nothing to do with it.

NEXT!

 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
By lies, do you mean things like DNC leadership saying Bush was AWOL Or do you mean things like Kerry saying that the economy has lost 1.6 million jobs when in fact, it is only 1/3 of that number. Or maybe you mean claiming that the war in Iraq has cost 200 billion when the actual figure is 120 billion.
Those are not lies. See the difference? I knew you would.
Ummm, huh?? Are you actually claiming that the US has lost 1.6 million jobs since Bush took office?
Are you actually claiming that the war in Iraq has cost 200 billion?
Where is the proof that Bush was AWOL?

Or maybe you are referring to forged documents given to news stations?
Karl Rove is behind that. Kerry has nothing to do with it.
Bwahahahahaha. Thanks for the laugh.
 

EagleKeeper

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When a candidate can not stand for something positive, opponents must be painted negatively in order to distinguish them.

This is what we are seeing in this election.
Campaigning on the negative (mud slinging) not on the positive. Why there is no positive is open for debate, however, I hav not seen very many positive points being presented by either side. Just FUD.
 

mastertech01

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1-21. Types of administrative discharge/character of service
When an officer's tour of AD is terminated due to discharge, retirement, or REFRAD, the period of service will be
c h a r a c t e r i z e d a s " H o n o r a b l e , " " G e n e r a l " ( " U n d e r H o n o r a b l e C o n d i t i o n s " ) , " U n d e r O t h e r T h a n H o n o r a b l e , "
or"Dishonorable" (warrant officers who do not hold a commission only), depending on the circumstances. The
character of service will be predicated on the officer's behavior and performance while a member of the Army.
Characterization normally will be based on a pattern of behavior and duty performance rather than an isolated incident.
However, there are circumstances in which conduct reflected by a single incident may provide the basis of characterization
of service.
a. Honorable characterization of service. An officer will normally receive an Honorable characterization of service
when the quality of the officer's service has met the standards of acceptable conduct and performance of duty for an
officer. Department of Defense (DD) Form 256A (Honorable Discharge Certificate) will be furnished to a discharged
officer; however, a certificate is not issued when an officer is released from AD. When the separation is based solely
on preservice activities or substandard performance of duty, it will be Honorable.
b. Under Honorable Conditions characterization of service. An officer will normally receive an Under Honorable
Conditions characterization of service when the officer's military record is satisfactory but not sufficiently meritorious
to warrant an Honorable discharge. DD Form 257A (General Discharge Certificate) will be furnished to a discharged
officer; however, a certificate will not be issued when an officer is released from AD. A separation under honorable
conditions will normally be appropriate when an officer-
(1) Submits an unqualified resignation or a request for REFRAD under circumstances involving misconduct.
(2) Is separated based on misconduct, including misconduct for which punishment was imposed, which renders the
officer unsuitable for further service, unless an Under Other Than Honorable Conditions separation is appropriate.
(3) Is discharged for physical disability resulting from intentional misconduct or willful neglect, or which was
incurred during a period of unauthorized absence.
(4) Is discharged under the Military Personnel Security Program if directed by HQDA (AR 604-10).
c. Under Other Than Honorable Conditions characterization of service. A discharge Under Other Than Honorable
Conditions is an administrative separation from the service under conditions other than honorable. A discharge
certificate will not be issued. An officer will normally receive an "Under Other Than Honorable Conditions" when he
or she-
(1) Resigns for the good of the service (chap 3).
(2) Is dropped from the rolls of the Army per paragraph 5-15.
(3) Is involuntarily separated due to misconduct, moral or professional dereliction, or in the interest of national
security.
(4) Is discharged following conviction by civil authorities (see para 2-35).
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