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Kerry lied about spending Christmas in Cambodia

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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN AUG 08, 2004 19:04:35 ET XXXXX

SWIFT OFFICERS AND VETS: KERRY LIED ABOUT SPENDING CHRISTMAS IN CAMBODIA

**Exclusive**

Since the early 1970s, Kerry has spoken and written of how he was illegally ordered to enter Cambodia. Kerry mentioned it in the floor of the Senate in 1986 when he charged that President Reagan?s actions in Central America were leading the U.S. in another Vietnam. Here?s what he said as excerpted from the new book, UNFIT FOR COMMAND:

I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me.

DRUDGE has learned from the accounts of Swift Boat officers and Kerry?s crewmembers that Kerry was never in Cambodia. UNFIT FOR COMMAND authors charge that Kerry made it all up.

?Despite the dramatic memories of his Christmas in Cambodia, Kerry?s statements are complete lies,? according to John O?Neil, co-author and the Swift Boat commander who took over Kerry?s boat. ?Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. . . . he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia.?

Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13?s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about 55 miles from the Cambodian border. . . . Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of PBRs (small river patrol crafts] confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and they would have been stopped had they appeared.

All the living commanders in Kerry?s chain of command . . . deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry?s boat, Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner, deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia.

O?Neill observed that the Cambodia incursion story is not included in Tour of Duty (Kerry?s recent biography). Instead, Kerry replaced the story with a report about a mortar attack that occurred on Christmas Eve 1968 ?near the Cambodian border? in a town called Sa Dec and Christmas day was spent at the base writing entries in his journal.

After conducting interviews and research, authors of Unfit for Command conclude, ?The truth is that Kerry made up his secret mission into Cambodia.... the lie about the illegal Cambodian incursion painted his superiors up the chain of command. . . . as villains faced down by John Kerry, a solitary hero in grave and exotic danger and forced illegally against his will into harm?s way.?

Developing...
 
what else is new, another kerry lie. however, i dont think it's relevent to this campaign
 
SWIFT OFFICERS AND VETS: KERRY LIED ABOUT SPENDING CHRISTMAS IN CAMBODIA

OMGx0r REALLY KERRY IS TEH HAX0R LIEZ0R OMGZ0R I AM SO NOT VOTING FOR HIM 0OMG SHOULD I VOTEZ FOR HIMZ0R OMG HE LIED ABOUTZ XMAZ SPENDING OMG

.........hmmmmmm I must be bored today...
 
im gonna wait for a source that is not drudge. he has been pretty steadily wrong with his "exclusive" material since he broke the clinton story.
 
Originally posted by: PatboyX
im gonna wait for a source that is not drudge. he has been pretty steadily wrong with his "exclusive" material since he broke the clinton story.

Drudge's strategy is to pound every story for as long as possible, even when he knows it's not true. Like Bush, he knows most of his base is rather weak when it comes questioning things that agree with their ideals.

As to the original topic, I think a certain Senator deserves a spanking. Or, who cares?
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: BDawg
Stop posting!

if this was bush it would be ok to post though right? :roll:

If the same person was posting the same drivel about Bush, over and over again, I would be just as annoyed.

for some reason i really doubt that.

Please...what he's posting has little value and doesn't usually come from trusted news source.
 
the facts will come out....

this link provides some quotes....

i will continue to withhold judgement until i read the actual source documents (senate statements, statements in his own "autobiography") that these quotes are purported to be from. If they are accurate quotes...Kerry will pay the price.


linky

For decades, John Kerry has told anyone who'd listen that at Christmas 1968 he was on an illegal mission inside Cambodia. On the floor of the Senate in 1986, while attacking President Reagan for turning Central America into another Vietnam quagmire (wrong as usual), Kerry said: "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared ? seared ? in me."

The illegal Yuletide foray was so seared into him that he brought it up at every opportunity.

As he told the Boston Herald in 1979, "I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."

LBJ was President on Christmas Eve 1968, but let that pass. Here's an Associated Press story from 1992: "Navy Lt John Kerry knew he had no business steering his Mekong River patrol boat across the border into Cambodia, but orders were orders? By Christmas 1968, part of Kerry's patrol extended across the border of South Vietnam into Cambodia."

Just one problem. It never happened. Every living officer up his chain of command says Kerry was never ordered to Cambodia. At least three of his five crewmen say their boat was never in Cambodia. And if you don't believe any of his fellow veterans, read the excerpt from Kerry's own journal published in Tour Of Duty, the recent hagiography by Douglas Brinkley.

On December 24 1968, Kerry was at Sa Dec ? that's well inside Vietnam
, 55 miles from the Cambodian border ? and waxing wistful to his diary about a quiet Christmas far from home: "Visions of sugarplums really do dance through your head and you think of stockings and snow and roast chestnuts and fires with birch logs and all that is good and warm and real. It's Christmas Eve."[/quote]

this stuff is easy enough to check....
senate stuff is transcribed and available somewhere online..
Kerry's "book" should be easy to track down...

we shall see who is lying and who is telling the truth...

the truth shall set you free...
 
If you were ever in the military, you'd know that Lieutenants can't read maps for sh!t, the dumbass probably did think he was in Cambodia. That's why NCOs handle things like navigation and giving directions to the pointman while leading patrols in the bush and the officer gets babysat by the radio operator.
 
It must be true, the Dead Kennedys wrote a song about it!

Holiday in Cambodia

So you been to school for a year or two
And you know you've seen it all
In daddy's car thinkin' you'll go far
Back east your type don't crawl
Play ethnicky jazz to parade your snazz
On your five grand stereo
Braggin that you know how the awesome people feel cold
And the slums got so much soul

It's time to taste what you most fear
Right Guard will not help you here
Brace yourself, my dear

It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough kid, but it's life
It's a holiday in Cambodia
Don't forget to pack a wife

Your a star-belly sneech you suck like a leech
You want everyone to act like you
Kiss ass while you bitch so you can get rich
But your boss gets richer on you
Well you'll work harder with a gun in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Slave for soldiers til you starve
Then your head skewered on a stake
Now you can go where people are one
Now you can go where they get things done
What you need my son:

Is a holiday in Cambodia
Where people dress in black
A holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll kiss ass or crack

Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot
Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot

And it's a holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll do what you're told
A holiday in Cambodia
Where the slums got so much soul

Pol Pot
 
If you were ever in the military, you'd know that Lieutenants can't read maps for sh!t, the dumbass probably did think he was in Cambodia. That's why NCOs handle things like navigation and giving directions to the pointman while leading patrols in the bush and the officer gets babysat by the radio operator.

That sounded like it might be partisan, so let me clarify. Kerry isn't the only stupid lieutenant out there, they're dumb in general. Lt. Bush probably thought he was in Cambodia on occasion as well.
 
Originally posted by: glenn1
If you were ever in the military, you'd know that Lieutenants can't read maps for sh!t, the dumbass probably did think he was in Cambodia. That's why NCOs handle things like navigation and giving directions to the pointman while leading patrols in the bush and the officer gets babysat by the radio operator.

And Dubbya thinks cambodia is an engine part.
 
Well if the Dub ever said he was Cambodia during the Vietnam War we'd KNOW he was lying!
 
Fox News was talking about this today also. Even though I think both candidates are pretty poor, Kerry explicitly stated on the senate floor and in an article he wrote for a Boston newspaper that he was in Cambodia when he wasn't. When confronted with this he stated that he never said that, but when shown the senate floor transcripts and the copy of the article he wrote, his people had no reply. Please someone find us a third candidate who is worth a damn.....
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: BDawg
Stop posting!

if this was bush it would be ok to post though right? :roll:
IIRC, it's impossible to tell such a tale about Bush. I hear he was as far as possible from SE Asia . . . don't know exactly where he was . . . but he definitely wasn't in SE Asia.
 
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