Kerry denies allegations of infidelity today on Imus

bozack

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Well Drudge was at least correct when he said that Kerry would be addressing the intern issue today on Imus in the Morning...

Basically he said "There is nothing to report" when Imus asked if there was any credibility to the Drudge report.....

will be interesting if other media sources run with it now that Imus pulled the cat out of the bag or if it will be dropped.
 

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This is a serious question for the conservatives here. I haven't really been following this story at all...but out of curiousity, if Kerry had an affair in the past, what exactly does that have to do with whether he can handle the job of President?
 

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
This is a serious question for the conservatives here. I haven't really been following this story at all...but out of curiousity, if Kerry had an affair in the past, what exactly does that have to do with whether he can handle the job of President?

Why are you only addressing the "conservatives". Is infidelity, and all the other character flaws that come with it, only an issue for conservatives?
 

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Its not like hed fess up when the women hes married to, told her first husband she would maim him if he cheated on her. Theresa Hienz would go ballistic.

If its not true okay. But if it is true, Kerry just ended his political career with the denial. Hes not the smooth talker Clinton was, and hes not a sitting president.
 

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This will make for interesting grist. However, I think that if there was anything to report, it would already be out there.
 

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Originally posted by: Gravity
This will make for interesting grist. However, I think that if there was anything to report, it would already be out there.

Imus is qouted as "Kerry is dead if he lied".

I dont know, there seems to be something to this story. We will have to see how it develops over the weekend and into the early part of next week. Kerry basically just challenged alot of journalists...
 

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
This is a serious question for the conservatives here. I haven't really been following this story at all...but out of curiousity, if Kerry had an affair in the past, what exactly does that have to do with whether he can handle the job of President?

more of an issue with .re honesty as he has for the past few months been alleging that the current prez hasn't been that honest with the nation, and even today on the show one of his main points was honesty...if it does turn out he was unfaithful and today he announced that there was nothing to announce well then that would be a little dishonesty on his part.
 

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Originally posted by: Gravity
This will make for interesting grist. However, I think that if there was anything to report, it would already be out there.
This definately wouldn't have gotten under Carl Roves Radar.

 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Gravity
This will make for interesting grist. However, I think that if there was anything to report, it would already be out there.
This definately wouldn't have gotten under Carl Roves Radar.

If Karl Rove knew about it, hed be setting on it until AFTER the DNC Convention. Why do it during the primaries? And risk getting a different opponent?

Right now, this is the democrats eating their own. The story was pressed(from what I have heard) by a big time democrat fundraiser, and a member of Edwards camp.
 

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Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
Originally posted by: Insane3D
This is a serious question for the conservatives here. I haven't really been following this story at all...but out of curiousity, if Kerry had an affair in the past, what exactly does that have to do with whether he can handle the job of President?

Why are you only addressing the "conservatives". Is infidelity, and all the other character flaws that come with it, only an issue for conservatives?


I'm asking conservatives because they seem to be the only ones interested in this story... Also, I've never understood why something personal like affairs and marriages have anything to do with judging whether or not someone will be able to do a job....ANY job.
 

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Its not like hed fess up when the women hes married to, told her first husband she would maim him if he cheated on her. Theresa Hienz would go ballistic.

If its not true okay. But if it is true, Kerry just ended his political career with the denial. Hes not the smooth talker Clinton was, and hes not a sitting president.

Why would his "politcal career" be ended? I think you are giving this issue way too much weight IMO.
 

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Insane3D
This is a serious question for the conservatives here. I haven't really been following this story at all...but out of curiousity, if Kerry had an affair in the past, what exactly does that have to do with whether he can handle the job of President?

more of an issue with .re honesty as he has for the past few months been alleging that the current prez hasn't been that honest with the nation, and even today on the show one of his main points was honesty...if it does turn out he was unfaithful and today he announced that there was nothing to announce well then that would be a little dishonesty on his part.

Fair enough. A couple of points though. First of all, the lies Bush is accused of are just a tad more serious wouldn't you say? Personally, lying about having an affair doesn't rank up there with lying to get a country to support a war. Secondly, are there ANY politicians that don't lie about something?
 

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Its not like hed fess up when the women hes married to, told her first husband she would maim him if he cheated on her. Theresa Hienz would go ballistic.

If its not true okay. But if it is true, Kerry just ended his political career with the denial. Hes not the smooth talker Clinton was, and hes not a sitting president.

Why would his "politcal career" be ended? I think you are giving this issue way too much weight IMO.

Theresa Hienz will make his life a living hell, if its true. God fear a rich republican woman cheated on. If he lied this moring, his political career is pretty much over, but IMHO that would be the least of his worries. You are under estimating Ms Hienz.
 

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
Originally posted by: Insane3D
This is a serious question for the conservatives here. I haven't really been following this story at all...but out of curiousity, if Kerry had an affair in the past, what exactly does that have to do with whether he can handle the job of President?

Why are you only addressing the "conservatives". Is infidelity, and all the other character flaws that come with it, only an issue for conservatives?


I'm asking conservatives because they seem to be the only ones interested in this story... Also, I've never understood why something personal like affairs and marriages have anything to do with judging whether or not someone will be able to do a job....ANY job.

Being the president, or any job where you are quite literally trusted with the lives of others, is not just "any" job. If you can't or won't see that then this discussion is over before it even gets started.

 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Fair enough. A couple of points though. First of all, the lies Bush is accused of are just a tad more serious wouldn't you say? Personally, lying about having an affair doesn't rank up there with lying to get a country to support a war. Secondly, are there ANY politicians that don't lie about something?

This isn't really about weight or impact of said "lies" but rather character...also your comparing apples to oranges as one is an incumbent and the other is a potential candidate.....Bush is already in office so whether or not he lied about the war the only way to get him out would be impeachment or by voting someone else in...however would you really want to vote in another liar to replace him? Kerry was the strongest candidate, however with his past anti vietnam actions and now if this proves to be true I personally think he is sunk.

I think this is interesting:

Imus is qouted as "Kerry is dead if he lied"

I dont know, there seems to be something to this story. We will have to see how it develops over the weekend and into the early part of next week. Kerry basically just challenged alot of journalists... .

Which IMHO wasn't a smart move as it will take the focus off of Bush's military career and move the spotlight prematurely onto Kerry....

also:

If Karl Rove knew about it, hed be setting on it until AFTER the DNC Convention. Why do it during the primaries? And risk getting a different opponent?

Right now, this is the democrats eating their own. The story was pressed(from what I have heard) by a big time democrat fundraiser, and a member of Edwards camp.

Word on the street has it the info was leaked by the Clintons as they don't want a strong democratic candidate to beat out Bush, they want a loser to set Hillary up in the next election...either that or Hillary is going to make a late jump into the election...

next few weeks should be interesting.
 

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Being the president, or any job where you are quite literally trusted with the lives of others, is not just "any" job. If you can't or won't see that then this discussion is over before it even gets started.

I never claimed it was "just another job", but, when you get down to it, it is a job, just a very important one. How exactly does whether someone had an affair in the past or not have any relvance whether or not they can be trusted with the lives of others? In what life or death circumstance would having had an affair affect his judgement or decision making? If we were suddenly attacked by NK or something, would he need to hesitate and wonder what someone who had never had an affair would do in this situation?

Theresa Hienz will make his life a living hell, if its true. God fear a rich republican woman cheated on. If he lied this moring, his political career is pretty much over, but IMHO that would be the least of his worries. You are under estimating Ms Hienz.

Ummm...k.
 

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If theres any credibility to Drudge it should get picked up by the mainstream media.
 

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Originally posted by: bozack
Word on the street has it the info was leaked by the Clintons as they don't want a strong democratic candidate to beat out Bush, they want a loser to set Hillary up in the next election...either that or Hillary is going to make a late jump into the election... next few weeks should be interesting.

Woah! Best conspiracy type theory I've read all morning ;)

BTW (OT) talking of affairs and interns - whatever happened to the one that went missing and turned up dead in Rock creek park? Did the investigation into that just die away?
 

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my theory of this being an attempt to discredit the drudge report as a tabloidesque outlet of information is slowly evoling with the Kerry Denial this mourning.

Contrary to what many republicans believe that this is Dems Eating Dems, I feel it is a calculated ploy on the democrats part to finally destroy The little bit of credibility Drudge has amongst non partisans and the middle voters.

I admit, I think it is a gigantic Liberal conspiracy.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: dpm
Woah! Best conspiracy type theory I've read all morning ;)

BTW (OT) talking of affairs and interns - whatever happened to the one that went missing and turned up dead in Rock creek park? Did the investigation into that just die away?

I cannot take credit for this though as I heard it on the local talk radio station...seems plausable though and even though I hate to admit it I think Hillary would stand a very good chance of getting elected.....

no idea what happened to that investigation, think it just lost its news worthyness...
 

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Would you like to know more......

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX FRI FEB 13, 2004 10:38:05 ET XXXXX

KERRY ON IMUS: 'THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT, NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT . . . NO'

Democratic presidential frontrunner John Kerry told IMUS IN THE MORNING "there is nothing to report" after a DRUDGE REPORT exclusive revealed the frantic behind-the-scenes drama surrounding a woman who recently fled the country, reportedly at the prodding of Kerry!

The nature and details of a claimed two-year relationship, beginning in the Spring of 2001, between a young woman and Kerry is at the center of serious investigations at several media outlets.

After being approached by a top news producer, the woman fled to Africa, where she remains.

"Well, there is nothing to report," Kerry told IMUS. "So there is nothing to talk about. I'm not worried about it. No."

In expanded comments later in the broadcast, Don Imus told his on-air crew that "Kerry is dead" if "something comes out."

MORE

Unlike the Monica Lewinsky drama, which first played out publicly in this space, with audio tapes, cigar and a dress, the Kerry situation has posed a challenge to reporters investigating the claims.

"There is no lawsuit testimony this time [like Clinton with Paula Jones]," a top source said Thursday night. "It is hard to prove."

A close friend of the woman first approached a reporter late last year claiming fantastic stories -- stories that now threaten to turn the race for the presidency on its head.

Later on Friday, Kerry is scheduled to join General Wesley Clark, who, in an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, plainly stated: "Kerry will implode over an intern issue."

Reporters who witnessed Clark making the stunning comments marvel at the General's reluctance to later confirm they were spoken -- only to later endorse Kerry for the nomination!

Elsewhere, media response to the allegations varied widely.

The FRONTRUNNER details the coverage.

The television networks were quiet, although ABC News radio (2/12) mentioned the story yesterday afternoon. Meanwhile, local TV across the US reported the allegation extensively. For example, KTBS-TV Shreveport, LA (2/12, 10:00 p.m.) reported, "A bomb-shell was dropped on Senator Kerry today."

KABC-TV Los Angeles, CA (2/12, 6:00 p.m.) reported, "There's a report on the Internet from Internet gossip columnist Matt Drudge that John Kerry, the front runner, has had a problem with an intern in the past, perhaps an affair."

KDAF-TV Dallas, TX (2/12, 9:28 p.m.) referred to the story as a "bombshell rumor."

WBAL-TV Baltimore, MD (2/12, 11:11 p.m.) reported, "The Kerry camp is preparing a response."

WBTV-TV Charlotte, NC (2/12, 6:00 p.m.) reported, "Scandalous rumblings tonight inside John Kerry's campaign."

WSYX-TV Columbus, OH (2/12, 5:05 p.m.) reported, "Matt Drudge broke this bombshell on his website."

WTTE-TV Columbus, OH (2/12, 10:11 p.m.) reported, "The Democratic frontrunner -- some say he had an affair with an intern."

KRQE-TV Albuquerque, NM (2/12, 10:00 p.m.) reported, "Is John Kerry about to be caught up in a scandal?"

Various UK press outlets splashed the report on Friday.

The UK TIMES placed it on its front page -- in the lead position.

The UK SUN claims to have found the name of the woman in question, even interviewing her parents.

Developing...
 

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Fron The Uk "Tabloid" the Sun

"PRESIDENTIAL hopeful John Kerry was branded a ?sleazeball? last night by the parents of a young woman he allegedly tried to woo.

Alex Polier, 24, was named as the woman at the centre of a scandal that threatens to damage Democrat Kerry?s bid for the White House.

Her mother Donna claims Kerry, 60 ? dubbed the new JFK ? once chased Alex to be on his campaign team and was ?after her?.

There is no evidence the pair had an affair, but her father Terry, 56, said: ?I think he?s a sleazeball. I did kind of wonder if my daughter didn?t get that kind of feeling herself.

?He?s not the sort of guy I would choose to be with my daughter.?

Terry, of Malvern, Pennsylvania, added: ?John Kerry called my daughter and invited her down to Washington two or three years ago.

?He invited her to be on his re-election committee. She talked to him and decided against it.?"




Just as I have Expected. It is a non story and Drudge took the Bait. this Story is uncreditable.

Yesterday she was An Intern, Then an AP reporter. The story has no Merit and is being used to show the Unreliable and unjournalistic tabloidesque method matt drudge employes


Developing.......
 

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I can't comment on the itern stuff, because it seems to be a bit lacking for substance. But there is no question that John Kerry has the eye of the public and people, both democrat and republicans are listening to him. The one thing he has done in this entire campaign is to focus his energy on attacking the president and his policies. While his other opponents have focused on attacking each other. Unless these 2.7 miilion jobs come through as the president spoke of recently and the Iraq issue drastically changes, Kerry will win decisively. People are people. And in the end we all subscribe to chasing the grass is greener over there mentality. Bush has left a very sour taste in the mouths of many. So many questions without answers. Folks even in his own party are at odds with the president on one issue or another.

I think this pretty much points out how the president is slipping
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