Kelly thinks he's saving U.S. from disaster, calls Trump 'idiot,' say White House staffers

[FIVR]

I think we should hold off on impeaching Trump until he makes peace with North Korea. If anybody deserves to win from the Trump presidency it is this poorest and most abused nation.


Maybe in his retardation Trump is screwing things up for the neocons (both democrat neocons and republican ones)


This "saving the world" bs from a neocon racist general is pretty funny tho. Who would believe such fantasies?

 

[dank69]

They should engrave his peace prize with "little rocket man"

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Nukes are worse than guns for threatening people. First, you have to be actually willing to use them then, you have to be willing to wait for the city you used one on to lose it's radiation. Finally, in the case of NK, you have to be willing for a change in wind direction to poison your own country for an equally long time.

 

[FIVR]

They should engrave his peace prize with "little rocket man"

He deserves the prize if he pulls it off. Obama would have deserved one if he had gotten us out of the middle east and afghanistan but he was unwilling to grab things by the pussy.


I'm pretty confident he will F things up in the end. I wouldn't worry too much about Trump nobel prizes. Lol.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

He deserves the prize if he pulls it off. Obama would have deserved one if he had gotten us out of the middle east and afghanistan but he was unwilling to grab things by the pussy.


I'm pretty confident he will F things up in the end. I wouldn't worry too much about Trump nobel prizes. Lol.

Not unless they've started selling them.

 

[Greenman]

Is idiot better than moron? I'm not sure.



Also WTF:



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...-he-s-saving-u-s-disaster-calls-trump-n868961

Kelly denies ever saying any of that.

 

[Jhhnn]

Kelly denies ever saying any of that.

We really can't know the truth either way. Well, other than the fact that Trump really is a dangerous nitwit. Kelly just might have picked up on that himself.

 

[Greenman]

We really can't know the truth either way. Well, other than the fact that Trump really is a dangerous nitwit. Kelly just might have picked up on that himself.

That's very possible. The only reason I posted that is because I give the word of a Marine corps general more credence than unnamed ex white house staffers. Like him or not, you don't attain that position by being an idiot or spineless. My hunch is that if Kelly thought that about Trump he'd say it to his face. Every marine I've ever known was pretty straight forward when he decided something needed to be said.
I suppose my opinion is also based on respect for the Marine corp, and is biased because of that.

 

[Brainonska511]

That's very possible. The only reason I posted that is because I give the word of a Marine corps general more credence than unnamed ex white house staffers. Like him or not, you don't attain that position by being an idiot or spineless. My hunch is that if Kelly thought that about Trump he'd say it to his face. Every marine I've ever known was pretty straight forward when he decided something needed to be said.
I suppose my opinion is also based on respect for the Marine corp, and is biased because of that.

Kelly also had some, severe memory lapses, when it came to the Rob Porter issue. Kelly has credibility issues.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's very possible. The only reason I posted that is because I give the word of a Marine corps general more credence than unnamed ex white house staffers. Like him or not, you don't attain that position by being an idiot or spineless. My hunch is that if Kelly thought that about Trump he'd say it to his face. Every marine I've ever known was pretty straight forward when he decided something needed to be said.
I suppose my opinion is also based on respect for the Marine corp, and is biased because of that.

Or maybe Kelly is held hostage to the idea that if he quits then Trump will just hire somebody much worse. Whether he said it or not he can't admit to it. I can respect that. Imagine trying to ride herd on Trump & the nest of vipers he's created.

 

[Commodus]

That's very possible. The only reason I posted that is because I give the word of a Marine corps general more credence than unnamed ex white house staffers. Like him or not, you don't attain that position by being an idiot or spineless. My hunch is that if Kelly thought that about Trump he'd say it to his face. Every marine I've ever known was pretty straight forward when he decided something needed to be said.
I suppose my opinion is also based on respect for the Marine corp, and is biased because of that.

A Marine Corps general also values his country and will avoid jeopardizing his post if he knows that means putting the US in danger. Let's say you're Kelly; you know that Trump is clueless and irrational, and you're frequently the best (or only) person to stop him from doing something fundamentally stupid. Let's say you also know that Trump is egocentric and will fire anyone who significantly challenges his authority.

Do you:

A) voice your opinion of him to his face, knowing you'll be fired and that the country will likely be worse off, or

B) voice your opinion of him to others, but keep it civil face-to-face so that you can rein in Trump's worst impulses?

The correct answer, of course, is B. Wise Marines are brave, but they also know the difference between bravery and just being foolhardy.

 

[Puffnstuff]

So Kelly might be the driving force behind multiple failed bipartisan deals....hmm?
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/john-kelly-it-s-total-bs-i-called-trump-an-idiot-1222805059795

 

[HomerJS]

We really can't know the truth either way. Well, other than the fact that Trump really is a dangerous nitwit. Kelly just might have picked up on that himself.

We do know Kelley is already an proven liar. He told a bald face lie on Congresswoman Frederika Wilson and proven by video recording.

 

[Greenman]

A Marine Corps general also values his country and will avoid jeopardizing his post if he knows that means putting the US in danger. Let's say you're Kelly; you know that Trump is clueless and irrational, and you're frequently the best (or only) person to stop him from doing something fundamentally stupid. Let's say you also know that Trump is egocentric and will fire anyone who significantly challenges his authority.

Do you:

A) voice your opinion of him to his face, knowing you'll be fired and that the country will likely be worse off, or

B) voice your opinion of him to others, but keep it civil face-to-face so that you can rein in Trump's worst impulses?

The correct answer, of course, is B. Wise Marines are brave, but they also know the difference between bravery and just being foolhardy.

That could be close to accurate. I'd like to believe the general would keep his opinion to himself rather than risk being dismissed for bad mouthing the boss. That would be strategic thinking, something he probably knows a little about.

 

[TeeJay1952]

Unlike Sean Hannity I want to disclose before commenting:
I despise Trump. Always have. Dislike his approach, team and philosophies.
But
We do a great disservice to the resistance when we allow the News channels attempt to provoke even worse behavior out of Trump because it is a slow news day.
There is so much. Like the destruction of race relations and environment that obsessing on who said what to whom off the record feels untoward. Focus on the lies. theft and lack of concern about great swathes of citizenry.
I don't want to play "What did Omarosa say?" or any of the derivatives.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

MSM is eager to tear down this president in every way possible....and then act surprised to find that they're covered with mud. Chris Wallace says it best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaeLwyqXb0o

 

[fskimospy]

MSM is eager to tear down this president in every way possible....and then act surprised to find that they're covered with mud. Chris Wallace says it best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaeLwyqXb0o

Are you claiming this reporting is inaccurate? If so, why? If not, why is the fact that the president's chief of staff considers the most powerful man in the world to be an idiot not incredibly newsworthy?

 

[K1052]

Kelly also had some, severe memory lapses, when it came to the Rob Porter issue. Kelly has credibility issues.

He burned a lot of bridges in the administration by telling WH staff things that they knew not to be true during this incident to make himself look better. This really initiated his slow decline and increasing vulnerability to the palace intrigue that has left such amazing personnel wreckage in Trump's wake.

 

[fskimospy]

He burned a lot of bridges in the administration by telling WH staff things that they knew not to be true during this incident to make himself look better. This really initiated his slow decline and increasing vulnerability to the palace intrigue that has left such amazing personnel wreckage in Trump's wake.

So far it's hard to think of a single person that's worked in this White House who has not destroyed their professional reputation with the possible exception of Mattis.

 

[K1052]

So far it's hard to think of a single person that's worked in this White House who has not destroyed their professional reputation with the possible exception of Mattis.

Mattis has the luxury of not working in the building except for the occasional meeting/briefing. Also the Pentagon is very much it's own institutional animal in a way much different from the other agencies which somewhat insulates him. Physical range and exposure to Trump also seems to exponentially increase the likelihood of setting one's professional and personal reputation ablaze for him.

 

[hal2kilo]

Is idiot better than moron? I'm not sure.



Also WTF:



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...-he-s-saving-u-s-disaster-calls-trump-n868961

What most people don't know is that the MFr forced the cancellation of a Navy Demonstration and Shakedowm (DASO) missile launch. Which in my 39 years in this business never ever happens. Yes for pure political reason millions of dollars were blown, rescheduling the launch.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Are you claiming this reporting is inaccurate? If so, why? If not, why is the fact that the president's chief of staff considers the most powerful man in the world to be an idiot not incredibly newsworthy?

I'm agreeing with Chris Wallace.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm agreeing with Chris Wallace.

I'm not watching a video. What is your position, specifically? Use your own words.

 

[Thump553]

I lost all respect for Kelly when he flat out lied last year in the impassioned speech against Congresswomen Frederica Wilson calling her a trashcan- a speech where he even dwelled on his dead son. After after it was proven beyond a doubt that Kelly was 100% wrong in his recollections of the actual facts about Wilson's speech (her speech was on youtube) he refused to apologize and never has to this date.

He then doubled down on his bad behavior when he lied about the Ron Porter matter and strong armed subordinates to lie for him, changing records, etc.

I don't view him as some sort of savior protecting us from Trump's erratic impulses. They are birds of a feather and as far as I'm concerned both are the worst of despicable lying politicians.

Kelly trying to drum up support now because he has been forced to the periphery of Trump's inner circle. Just like The Donald, his world view is it's all about him..
.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I'm not watching a video. What is your position, specifically? Use your own words.

Then don't watch the video...your loss.