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Keep my 9800 Pro? Or upgrade to 6600GT?

Looking at building a few more rigs in the next couple months. For the current one right now (Socket 754 - AGP) I would like to get a new videocard currently it has a 9800 PRO, thinking of swapping it with a 6600 GT, putting the 9800 Pro in my barton rig and then getting a socket 939 and running dual PCI-E videocards (undecided as of yet) is it worth the money upgrading (AGP wise mind you) from a 9800 Pro to a 6600GT?
 
Not really. I wouldn't consider going with anything less than a 6800GT if I were you. The performance increase between the 9800/6600 is much smaller than looking at 9800/6800.
 
Not worth it at all. Unless you can sell 9800Pro for $150 or so and pay $40 extra for 6600GT.

Unless you plan on running 939 with 2 6800GTs or higher, dont even bother going socket 939 right now. There are numerous problems with SLI, problems with Nforce 4 chipset and SLI is only beneficial in a handful of games it was programmed for. Since socket 754 cpus are very fast and overclock anyways, you'd be better off getting a $340 6800GT or X800XT if you will, and upgrading in 6 months to a new generation NV50/R520 and then debugged and ready to go socket 939 + nforce 4.

The bottom line, unless you needed a riq from scratch, in your position I dont see a rush of going to 939 and sli now when I bet you wont feel any difference today between A64 3200+ s754 and 6800GT vs. A64 3500 + S939 and 6800GT SLI. The games just arent there that benefit from that type of an investment. Furthermore, 2 6600GTs are worse than 1 6800GT, not even mentioning 1 x800xt. Get a fast card for your S754 now and save the $600US towards a next generation card instead of hyped up SLI today.
 
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Not worth it at all. Unless you can sell 9800Pro for $150 or so and pay $40 extra for 6600GT.

Unless you plan on running 939 with 2 6800GTs or higher, dont even bother going socket 939 right now. There are numerous problems with SLI, problems with Nforce 4 chipset and SLI is only beneficial in a handful of games it was programmed for. Since socket 754 cpus are very fast and overclock anyways, you'd be better off getting a $340 6800GT or X800XT if you will, and upgrading in 6 months to a new generation NV50/R520 and then debugged and ready to go socket 939 + nforce 4.

The bottom line, unless you needed a riq from scratch, in your position I dont see a rush of going to 939 and sli now when I bet you wont feel any difference today between A64 3200+ s754 and 6800GT vs. A64 3500 + S939 and 6800GT SLI. The games just arent there that benefit from that type of an investment. Furthermore, 2 6600GTs are worse than 1 6800GT, not even mentioning 1 x800xt. Get a fast card for your S754 now and save the $600US towards a next generation card instead of hyped up SLI today.

None of this is even CLOSE to right.

There are about 80 game profiles in the current WHQL nV drivers. 80 is not a "handful". Their are utilities that write game profiles for you with a mouseclick on the executable and "Save". In the last couple days I've done profiles for Deus Ex Invisible War, GTA Vice City, no problems, worked great.

It's not "buggy"- it's stable and very user friendly, which you wouldn't know, never having used it.

There are always noobs who have problems with new tech complaining about it on bbs, you should form your opinions based on their fumblings.

I've encountered no games I can't run at 12X10 2X8X at least on my 6600GT SLI, and can point you at many benchmarks that show a rig like this is roughly comparable to an X800XL or 6800GT. (a little slower with AA/AF, a little faster without)

So anyway, one 6600GT will put you a little above where you're at, adding another will put you way above where you're at, a little below a 6800GT.

So there you have it:
Russian Sensations hearsay, or my experiences of the last few weeks.

 
I would wait. As for SLI, its pretty much only for users who want the fastest performance ATM, I wouldn't consider it future proof because it will probably get blown away by the next line of cards. So like I said, I would wait.
 
Originally posted by: BouZouki
I would wait. As for SLI, its pretty much only for users who want the fastest performance ATM, I wouldn't consider it future proof because it will probably get blown away by the next line of cards. So like I said, I would wait.

The only thing he's really out by going the route he mentions is the extra $50 for the SLI motherboard.

The SLI motherboard will be more "future proof" because no matter what the next generation of cards brings, two of them will still be faster.

As the cost of his 6600GT is pretty low (~$175) and it offers better than last gens best performance, I can't see any flaw with his plan.

The only real question here is whether you think it's worth $50 to have the option to run two cards, IMO.
 
Originally posted by: Creig
Not really. I wouldn't consider going with anything less than a 6800GT if I were you. The performance increase between the 9800/6600 is much smaller than looking at 9800/6800.

 
I wouldn't. I went from a 9800 Pro to a 6800 (12piper) and I was less than impressed. I had expected more performance delta, so I took it back (for more reasons than just that but that's for another thread).

I'd recommend you getting at least a 6800GT, then when you are able you can get another 6800GT and have a truly worthy SLI setup. 🙂
 
I wouldnt get a 6600GT even if you plan to SLI them, seeing as how a single 6800GT would beet them

You said you have an AGP Mobo? Get a single 6800GT. Or an X800pro with vivo, then flash it to XT-PE.
 
Rollo, I said SLI is beneficial in a handful of games because:

1) only Doom 3 and Far Cry REALLY benefit from it. All other games are already fast on X800XT and faster cards. HL2 with SLI is not much faster than the fastest aTI card

2) going from 80+ to 160+ frames in older games isnt what I consider a benefit.

My opinion was simple as this:

There are a handful of games that truly benefit from SLI right now because all other games are not complex enough to stress top end cards to warrant $1000 into SLI. Investing into 2 6600GTs for SLI is a total waste of money as they cost more than 6800GT and are a lot more times slower than faster. Finally, he already has a fast S754 system. Why not upgrade to a faster AGP card, and instead of dumping money for a few games that he'll notice the benefit with SLI, why not dump it into a 939 socket 6 months from now along with new generation of cards and possibly ATI SLI if he wants to and faster cpus once they do arrive to take advantage of the faster videocards?

Why do you always try to find flaws in people's posts? The point of each post is not so much about the facts, but the main idea or issue. In your post, you've done nothing but criticize my post, providing little opinion as to what the OP should do. By recommending 6600 and SLI board, you clearly havnet thought of the fact that he could drop $400 into a 10x better videocard and keep the current platform for a little longer. Not everyone on these forums buys 10000 videocards "for fun" like you (or a new motherboard every 6 months, etc).
 
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Rollo, I said SLI is beneficial in a handful of games because:

1) only Doom 3 and Far Cry REALLY benefit from it. All other games are already fast on X800XT and faster cards. HL2 with SLI is not much faster than the fastest aTI card
There is some sense to this, BUT this leaves the whole 6600GT/6800NU sli out of the equation, while both are mid range on their own, they both get to high range in SLI and offer the WMV9 hardware decode that many here care much about? And are much more reasonably priced- the cheapest 6800GT PCI on newegg is $450, so a GT SLI rig costs about $900 from about the only vendor I'll deal with anymore. Chumbo, who I also trust, has that $850 deal, highly allocated, which in my experience means hope you hit their lottery in your lifetime.

2) going from 80+ to 160+ frames in older games isnt what I consider a benefit.
While more fps is always preferable, I agree with this to some extent too. 6800GT/U SLI is about starting at 16X12 4X8X and going up though, and 6600GTs are about being able to play 12X10 2-4X8X very well on a $380 PCIE rig, or having very fast 16X12 0X ?X.

Investing into 2 6600GTs for SLI is a total waste of money as they cost more than 6800GT and are a lot more times slower than faster.
There is no financial loss in buying 6600GT SLI now. They cost less than PCIE GTs, and provide a similar gaming experience at the playable settings. I could link benchmarks, but you can check my SLI thread for that if you like.

Finally, he already has a fast S754 system. Why not upgrade to a faster AGP card, and instead of dumping money for a few games that he'll notice the benefit with SLI, why not dump it into a 939 socket 6 months from now along with new generation of cards and possibly ATI SLI if he wants to and faster cpus once they do arrive to take advantage of the faster videocards?
There is some sense there as well, but he said he's considering upgrading his motherboard now? Why is it important to you he hang on to his old tech 9800Pro, that is slower in every game, has no WMV9 decode, and no SM3?

Why do you always try to find flaws in people's posts? The point of each post is not so much about the facts, but the main idea or issue. In your post, you've done nothing but criticize my post, providing little opinion as to what the OP should do.
I'm not try to find flaws with your post, stating I disagree.

By recommending 6600 and SLI board, you clearly havnet thought of the fact that he could drop $400 into a 10x better videocard and keep the current platform for a little longer. Not everyone on these forums buys 10000 videocards "for fun" like you (or a new motherboard every 6 months, etc).
I was answering the question, just with a different answer than you? I don't see spending $400 on a AGP card now if you want to make the move to PCIE SLI. The PCIE SLI motherboard can surely last him this year and next.
 
If I were you i'd get a SLI motherboard, and one SLI card, 6600GT, 6800, 6800GT, whatever you choose, that way later on you can decide if you want to add anextra card in. Like Rollo said, it is more futureproof.
 
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