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LunarRay

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9/11 isn't an enigma, that's the problem with truthers.

Terrorist hijacked planes and flew them into buildings, the buildings fell leaving major carnage everywhere. No puzzle, that's what happened.

Right... But then again I'd have to accept that you have all the requisite qualifications necessary to facilitate that conclusion... Sadly, I don't!

Consistent with my quoted theory you too seem to dismiss what is the gist of my personal view on 9/11. The purported evidence of various kinds that are inextricably linked to 9/11, by virtue of the causal factor analysis, has yet to be investigated forensically by anybody of an 'official' nature. Granted, they do say it don't exist having not examined it which in itself is puzzling. (I assert the evidence does exist if that is not clear by now)
 

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Right... But then again I'd have to accept that you have all the requisite qualifications necessary to facilitate that conclusion... Sadly, I don't!

Consistent with my quoted theory you too seem to dismiss what is the gist of my personal view on 9/11. The purported evidence of various kinds that are inextricably linked to 9/11, by virtue of the causal factor analysis, has yet to be investigated forensically by anybody of an 'official' nature. Granted, they do say it don't exist having not examined it which in itself is puzzling. (I assert the evidence does exist if that is not clear by now)


Here is the full report on 9/11: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/index.html If you like, you may buy a personal copy for twenty bucks.

Though if you are opining that the government somehow has a duty to perform a complete investigation on every theory presented by every quackpot with a microphone... well.. you're going to be waiting a long long time. Not to mention said quackpots are highly unlikely to accept the results, even if said investigations were performed.

That's the beautiful thing about conspiracy theories: You don't need any proof, and anything a Government or Police agency comes up with is just "part of the cover up".
 
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LunarRay

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OK OK, some how when both main world towers collapsed after being hit by planes with possible burning jet fuel that could soften the steel, the hypothesis that a secondary later explosion in one tower perfectly explains why the other tower collapsed also when no such secondary explosion was reported in the other tower.

But its time for all of us the panic with chicken little, THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING, is it a drop of rain, a leaf, or an acorn. Only conspiracy theory man knows for sure.

If your premise is accurate regarding the second building you'd be reasonably arguing the issue... However, there is testimony that does conflict with what has been propounded as the absolute only causation. Either you simply dismiss that or conclude that it does not exists or deem it is confused utterances of the folks inside the towers and perhaps elsewhere but with a vantage enabling their testimony to be reasonable.
In any event, it would be nice to hear from them in the appropriate setting so that we can all learn what they mean by what they say.
One such person is the guy in the DC area to whom the VP said ''... Of course the orders still stand! Have you heard differently?"
Wouldn't you like to know a bit more about that conversation? I would.
 

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"Of course the orders still stand"


Chinese Take Out. 10 Dozen Won-Ton Soup for the workers.


They were Hungry.



Now: Prove Me Wrong. ;)
 

LunarRay

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Though if you are opining that the government somehow has a duty to perform a complete investigation on every theory presented by every quackpot with a microphone... well.. you're going to be waiting a long long time. Not to mention said quackpots are highly unlikely to accept the results, even if said investigations were performed.

Well.... I seem to recall we spent ... what... 60million on Clinton/Lewinski? Seems to me this was a criminal event... Seems to me some 3000 folks died... How on Earth can we simply pass that off to a volunteer commission? We spend a fortune on criminal investigations every day... The People demand evidence before they convict.. usually, but in this case we simply do a less than forensic investigation and there it is... Bin Laden did it.. We don't even care to discuss how some on the terrorist pilot/helper list turn up alive as per BBC and other reasonable sources... Does no one care about the folks who died... I do... and I want their memory and the families to be insured of a proper look see into this matter regardless of where it ends up.

But when the EPA by direction of the 'Whitehouse' issue "the air is fine" statements and they knew it was not... Seems more have died from 9/11 than just the folks in buildings and planes... What about them?... Was that EPA action a crime? Me thinks if true then it was....
 

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"Of course the orders still stand"


Chinese Take Out. 10 Dozen Won-Ton Soup for the workers.


They were Hungry.



Now: Prove Me Wrong. ;)

I go by the recorded evidence from Mineta that what I said was said was said.... IS he lying under oath?
It is not a matter of proving wrong at all... it is about our government treating a criminal event as one... or is it ok to pass it off as is?
 

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..and I go by the fact that I saw the fucking airplanes fly into the buildings. I had fucking Co-Workers flying on both the aircraft that crashed in Pennsylvania. And because the people who did it, admitted it - On Film of their own making.

Is it OK to accept a chaotic situation for what it is?


Apparently not. Better to endlessly worry over the implication of every little detail in the search for clues that what we saw really what what we saw.
 
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LunarRay

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That's the beautiful thing about conspiracy theories: You don't need any proof, and anything a Government or Police agency comes up with is just "part of the cover up".

Since you directed that bit to me I presume you think I'm in favor of an alternate conspiracy theory to the conspiracy theory the various official conclusions point to... That is not the case... I don't have tested evidence presented in an appropriate forum to rely on... IOW, none of us know beyond what we know or think we know including having all the bias attached... WE need an appropriate criminal investigation to answer the kinds of questions reasonable minds wonder about. Or not... either way it is par for the course... We spend resources based on some criteria that is not to do with what our goals ought to be if they are as stated or at least presumed to be the notion applied.

I don't know how many folks will die directly from the EPA issues but each of them ought to be able to find out just what went down during that time...
 

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The only thing that bothers me about WTC is that the steel was rated to last much longer under that heat...

and I have seen videos which look like thermite reactions inside the building.

I can only conclude.
 

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..and I go by the fact that I saw the fucking airplanes fly into the buildings. I had fucking Co-Workers flying on both the aircraft that crashed in Pennsylvania. And because the people who did it, admitted it - On Film of their own making.

Is it OK to accept a chaotic situation for what it is?


Apparently not. Better to endlessly worry over the implication of every little detail in the search for clues that what we saw really what what we saw.

And? Are you someone unique? I saw the video of aircraft hitting the towers too...

You have a two copulating aircraft, but I saw the videos and they did not appear to be trying to create little aircraft... Want to borrow some adjectives? Of course planes hit the towers... no bout a doubt it... in my mind. I presume the aircraft crashed in Pa and something happened to the plane that is said to have hit the pentagon... guess it must have hit the pentagon.
I have family members that survived the events and one not so lucky (but afterward as a first responder). He and the other members related what they saw, heard and etc to me and it supports the official theory in general but some bits don't... I can't imagine not believing my cousin (A NYPD) and his observations... trained to observe as it was... Or the molten stuff see by another such person looking for 'The brothers'... IF they said they saw molten steel... I wonder just what it was they saw... Hot steel glowing? Actual lava like stuff.. they said molten... I asked again... molten? Like liquid? The answer... "I don't know... looked like it was very hot and dripping"... I still don't know what they saw...
 
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"Tinfoil hats! Get your tinfoil hats here! Buy 5 get one free! Now with extra protection against alien rays as well as government mind control beams"

So, this is CNN reporting something and we had to wait 10 years to get our hands on that ultra secret stuff? LOL

Shit....quaickly will a mod please delete this post?
Kylebisme is going to have a field day............
 
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9/11 isn't an enigma, that's the problem with truthers.

Terrorist hijacked planes and flew them into buildings, the buildings fell leaving major carnage everywhere. No puzzle, that's what happened.

Hey that sounds familiar. Is that the crap the government told you was what happened?

Way to open up your mind and challenge authority.
 
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The only thing that bothers me about WTC is that the steel was rated to last much longer under that heat...

and I have seen videos which look like thermite reactions inside the building.

I can only conclude.

The buildings were not designed to withstand the initial impact of planes as large as the ones that hit it going full speed.

And you get this information on how thermite reacts based on what? Evidence posted by crack pots on the internet?
Oh look steel has turned red and melted. It must be thermite. It couldn't be the mixture of jetfuel, burning steel, people, aluminum, cloth fibers, titanium, magnisium, ect all mixed together and burning for long amounts of time.

John F. Kennedy had a secret memo stating that the CIA should conduct 9/11 in the event of his death because he knew extremists of some sort where going to kill him. He said use whatever extremist that you are facing as a means of starting a war.

I saw this document once.
Prove me wrong.
 
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