KB971033 update scheduled for Feb. 23

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tcsenter

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MrTransistorm said:
Well, the KB971033 showed up in my list of important updates today. Interestingly it is unchecked by default. I know for a fact that my Windows is genuine, so I'm obviously not going to download the update. I sure hope that Microsoft sticks to its word and keeps it optional (unlike the WGA debacle).
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Non-sequitur. If you knew for a fact that your Windows is genuine, you wouldn't have any problem with the update. Only the opposite would be true (in the world of rational balanced people, not paranoid ideologues).
 
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If you did the reg hack to do it then yes. It got me.
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Are you referring to the Registry hack that Paul Thurrott and others posted for doing a clean install of Win7 Upgrade version?

Yeah, I see where that's being reported by a couple of people.
 
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dude windows has been phoning home for a long time. check your event logs sometimes - even on OEM royalty (SLIC) licensed systems. microsoft has had their eye on you for years :)
 
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Are you referring to the Registry hack that Paul Thurrott and others posted for doing a clean install of Win7 Upgrade version?

Yeah, I see where that's being reported by a couple of people.
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Yes same reg hack. Funny thing is I saw a post on another forum where someone claims a MS Tech had him install his W7 upgrade on a clean drive using the same method.
 
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country2 said:
Yes same reg hack. Funny thing is I saw a post on another forum where someone claims a MS Tech had him install his W7 upgrade on a clean drive using the same method.
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What's funny about it? Microsoft has always built-in a way to use upgrade media as clean install. What do you think Microsoft says to people who have purchased an upgrade and are entitled to use it but for numerous reasons their system won't complete the upgrade process? So sorry, now you'll have to go buy the full retail version at twice the price, kthnxbai?

Microsoft support desk for installation is authorized to give people instructions on how to use upgrade media to perform a clean install, if the upgrade method is unsuccessful for whatever reason. Been this way since like 1983.
 
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What's funny about it? Microsoft has always built-in a way to use upgrade media as clean install. What do you think Microsoft says to people who have purchased an upgrade and are entitled to use it but for numerous reasons their system won't complete the upgrade process? So sorry, now you'll have to go buy the full retail version at twice the price, kthnxbai?

Microsoft support desk for installation is authorized to give people instructions on how to use upgrade media to perform a clean install, if the upgrade method is unsuccessful for whatever reason. Been this way since like 1983.
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Funny is that since the MS Tech "hacked" it will show as invalid W7 installation if KB971033 is installed plus this was on a new drive and the guy had told the tech that which also is not allowed.

I know this because I did it the same way also......
 
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You deciding to do this on your own and MS installation support authorizing you to do this after checking that you are entitled to use the upgrade because you in fact have a genuine activated qualifying product aren't the same thing. It also depends on the work-around method used. There are at least two different approaches to performing clean install using upgrade media. One of them is commonly detailed or recommended on piracy-promotion sites like MyDigitalLife.info, the other is relatively unknown.
 
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tcsenter said:
You deciding to do this on your own and MS installation support authorizing you to do this after checking that you are entitled to use the upgrade because you in fact have a genuine activated qualifying product aren't the same thing. It also depends on the work-around method used. There are at least two different approaches to performing clean install using upgrade media. One of them is commonly detailed or recommended on piracy-promotion sites like MyDigitalLife.info, the other is relatively unknown.
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Did you actually read the posts? I did same thing tech had him do,there for no difference if I had called up MS or not as if they had me do same thing the end result would of been the same..a invalid installation. By the terms of Upgrade me going from Vista Ultimate to W7 Upgrade Home user is not in the upgrade path and the MS Tech allowing him to install the Upgrade on a clean hd are against the terms and both therefore invalid installs..at least I did have a activated windows OS that I was wanting to upgrade.

Oh the other trick known as the double install that is widely known is a hit and miss as I had tried it.

Thats it..letting this die now.....Who knows maybe the person that I'm referring to lied about MS telling him to do it.
 
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country2 said:
By the terms of Upgrade me going from Vista Ultimate to W7 Upgrade Home user is not in the upgrade path and the MS Tech allowing him to install the Upgrade on a clean hd are against the terms and both therefore invalid installs..at least I did have a activated windows OS that I was wanting to upgrade.
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Going from Vista Ultimate to Win7 Home Premium is an allowed by the licensing rules. You have to do a "clean install", though. You can't do a in-place upgrade.
 
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Going from Vista Ultimate to Win7 Home Premium is an allowed by the licensing rules. You have to do a "clean install", though. You can't do a in-place upgrade.
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Hmm I tried it and it would not install. Cannot recall exact error but remember trying it with vista business and ultimate with same results. I recall looking at the upgrade path and figured that was why but oh well all is good now. Might try it again later on if I get bored.
 
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Hmm I tried it and it would not install. Cannot recall exact error but remember trying it with vista business and ultimate with same results. I recall looking at the upgrade path and figured that was why but oh well all is good now. Might try it again later on if I get bored.
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Microsoft's published resources on Win7 upgrades are confusing. As far as I know, this one is correct:

http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files/2009/08/windows-upgrade-chart.png

Here's a discussion of "upgrading" from Vista Ultimate to Win7 Professional:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com...l/thread/d92d040b-bd0e-4d1f-ac43-0d6e867c26d6
"If you have Vista Ultimate 64-bit installed, you can use an upgrade edition of Windows 7 Professional to perform a "custom installation" which is actually a "clean install" of Windows 7 Professional."

But, yeah, I do see two posters in that thread that said their attempts to go from Vista Utlimate to Win7 Professional didn't work. Oh, well... I'm not sure what's up with this. An MS MVP and a Microsoft Forum Moderator and both say this should work....but it sure seems that at least some people have had problems with this.

And a discussion of "upgrading" from Vista Ultimate to Win7 Home Premium:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com...l/thread/886fa4c8-87ea-464f-8a61-8f6b511cf205
"Any version of Windows XP or Windows Vista qualifies for the upgrade license to Windows 7."
 
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Well, this is interesting:

WAT has disappeared from the list of available updates. Up until a couple of days ago it was listed under critical updates, but it was always unchecked by default. I know I never installed it, but I checked my list of installed updates anyway. Thankfully it had not been installed. I know my install is legit, so I have no use for WAT.

So, I guess Microsoft pulled WAT? Was it causing a lot problems for legit installs? I've seen a couple of posts saying it did (for clean install hacks from upgrade media), but surely most people just avoided the update instead.
 
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