Kaveri, Gaming and Synergies.

[galego]

Well, zoom out that stock price graph to a full year and it doesnt look so impressive. Less than half the price of what it was a year ago while stocks in general have been going up over that period.

The article also should be more accurate and say amd is building up a "console" monopoly, not a gaming monopoly. There is a difference.

Since this thread is about present and future, we could select last month and see how recent moves and announces from AMD look much more impressive to investors

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=AMD&t=1m&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=

The article is accurate. AMD strategy is about building a game monopoly starting by consoles. I can give you the link to recent eurogamer poll where all triple-A developers recommend AMD chips for gaming pcs in case you did not notice it still...

 

[frozentundra123456]

Since this thread is about present and future, we could select last month and see how recent moves and announces from AMD look much more impressive to investors

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=AMD&t=1m&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=

The article is accurate. AMD strategy is about building a game monopoly starting by consoles. I can give you the link to recent eurogamer poll where all triple-A developers recommend AMD chips for gaming pcs in case you did not notice it still...

We are well aware of that link. You have spammed it endlessly for days. It still is no less unproven and speculative than it was the first time you posted it.

 

[galego]

Related: Kabini does not support XP or Vista only Windows 7 and 8

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31314-kabini-comes-without-windows-xp-support

 

[podspi]

I'm surprised they aren't going to support Vista, since my impression was Vista/7/8 were very similar internally. Not surprised about XP though. Does anybody actually run XP anymore? I can't stand using anything earlier than Vista.

 

[Phynaz]

How exactly does a CPU not support an operating system? That makes no sense. But then it is Fud, so there you go.

 

[inf64]

It's not the CPU part itself. Since it's a true SoC I guess the chipset drivers are not supported and iGPU has no driver support either. x86 part is fully compatible with XP or Vista.

 

[galego]

It's not the CPU part itself. Since it's a true SoC I guess the chipset drivers are not supported and iGPU has no driver support either. x86 part is fully compatible with XP or Vista.

I believed that was evident... Just as Intel last atoms were not compatible with some 64 bit windows versions due to lack of drivers. The difference is that Intel had serious problems with modern Windows versions, whereas here AMD seems to be dropping support for outdated windows versions.

 

[galego]

I'm surprised they aren't going to support Vista, since my impression was Vista/7/8 were very similar internally. Not surprised about XP though. Does anybody actually run XP anymore? I can't stand using anything earlier than Vista.

On Steam about a 9% of gamers use XP. To put it in context, 11% use W8, 7% use Vista, 13% use W7 32 bit and 54% use W7 64 bit.

But that is Steam and gamers niche. Worldwide XP has a market share of about 38%, 4% use W8, 5% use Vista, and 45% use W7.

 

[Olikan]

good news for the excavator chips

AMD will use 256-bits FPU pipes

http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1368122313

 

[R0H1T]

good news for the excavator chips

AMD will use 256-bits FPU pipes

http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1368122313

Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't Kaveri supposed to have this & it is based on steamroller cores instead ?

 

[ShintaiDK]

good news for the excavator chips

AMD will use 256-bits FPU pipes

http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1368122313

I think SB and IB does the same. The 256bit data paths are still missing tho that Haswell for example adds.

 

[inf64]

Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't Kaveri supposed to have this & it is based on steamroller cores instead ?

Nope ,Kaveri uses other tricks to boost fp capability . Instruction latencies are lower for one and fp pipeline is a bit redesigned. It still has same "theoretical throughput" but practically it should be faster than PD core.

And thanks to Olikan for posting the link for EX core

edit:

AMD supposedly held a presentation on EX core in Beijing,China and gave rough estimates for 8T+GCN(?) ES. Again, supposedly, it is the first "APU" that has GPU which can be used for x86 fp ops . It also has support for Transactional memory. The FP throughput is astounding and is an effect of using a hybrid execution (x86 decoding and GPU is doing execution of 256bit ops). There is some mentioning of SPMT(speculative MTing) but I'm seriously suspicious of this "technology" , especially if it does not require recompiling and works "out of the box". Too much complexity and too little gains.