Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

[jackstar7]

Kavanaugh needs to be drug tested. All that nose scrunching he could have been coked up.

Skis could be code for cocaine. I believe he never directly answered Booker when pressed on that specific.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Skis could be code for cocaine. I believe he never directly answered Booker when pressed on that specific.

*Clutching a tiny little straw as you go down.*

 

[hal2kilo]

Skis could be code for cocaine. I believe he never directly answered Booker when pressed on that specific.

Put on your sailing shoes? Naw, doesn't quite fit.

 

[dainthomas]

Samuel Chase was impeached because his rulings were unsatisfactory, not for any specific misconduct.

There has never been a proven rapist nominated to the supreme court yet. If they nominate Kavanaugh there are MANY avenues to impeachment and saying "they've never done it before" is not a good argument because we've never nominate such an unqualified criminal to such a high position before.

The misconduct that has lead (or will lead) to Kavanaughs elevation to the court is unprecedented and requires similarly unprecedented actions to rectify it.

I'm still floored that the senate is so adamant about sticking with this creeper, when they have an extensive list of perfectly serviceable federalist society ideologues to choose from. Any woman off their horrid list would already be confirmed.

 

[hal2kilo]

I'm still floored that the senate is so adamant about sticking with this creeper, when they have an extensive list of perfectly serviceable federalist society ideologues to choose from. Any woman off their horrid list would already be confirmed.

Without any proof whatsoever, it sure seems like Kennedy made a deal.

 

[jackstar7]

Without any proof whatsoever, it sure seems like Kennedy made a deal.

Kennedy can't un-step down though. I mean what can he do to them if Kav doesn't clear this? Expose himself and destroy his (already pretty garbage) legacy to reveal their backroom deal? Seems unlikely.

 

[jackstar7]

Apropos of nothing, Kav really overplayed his hand in this.

Already sitting on one of the top 5 most powerful courts in the country and he had to know his own past, but all he saw was his own ambition and if there's any justice, he's going to lose everything.

I'm not naive enough to believe there is justice here, but if it comes to get him, it's going to get him good.

 

[HomerJS]

I know, in the old Navy, before their culture of drinking was curbed, a "steamer" was a sailor that was pretty much a functioning alcoholic.

Found next to calendar entry describing one of his favorite dishes, blumpkin. Brett says its a pie half blueberry half pumpkin.

 

[HomerJS]

Fix is in.

White House has restricted the FBI not to look into possible lying by Kavanaugh in his sworn testimony concerning his drinking.

Kavanaugh's drinking history, which has come up in the allegations, is not part of the probe, which is being managed by the FBI's security division at the agency's headquarters in Washington, the source said.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/30/politics/fbi-brett-kavanaugh-investigation/index.html

 

[Thump553]

I'm still floored that the senate is so adamant about sticking with this creeper, when they have an extensive list of perfectly serviceable federalist society ideologues to choose from. Any woman off their horrid list would already be confirmed.

The get out of jail free card for Trump is Kavenaugh's ace in the hole.

 

[crashtech]

Apropos of nothing, Kav really overplayed his hand in this.

Already sitting on one of the top 5 most powerful courts in the country and he had to know his own past, but all he saw was his own ambition and if there's any justice, he's going to lose everything.

I'm not naive enough to believe there is justice here, but if it comes to get him, it's going to get him good.

Still wondering where all this stuff was when he was being considered for the DC Circuit. Seems that is a powerful enough position to warrant careful checking, and there were three years in which to accomplish it. If the allegations are true, there have been countless tainted decisions already handed down by one of the most powerful courts in the land.

 

[jackstar7]

Still wondering where all this stuff was when he was being considered for the DC Circuit. Seems that is a powerful enough position to warrant careful checking, and there were three years in which to accomplish it. If the allegations are true, there have been countless tainted decisions already handed down by one of the most powerful courts in the land.

Who would have requested such checking? Why?

This winds up being another case of sunshine doing its thing.

Also, it's likely since no one did real digging previously that he didn't have to repeatedly lie under oath previously, opening himself up to all of the current issues he's facing. It took an amount of effort to get him to totally implode, otherwise he was just coasting on white male privilege all the way into the SCOTUS, which given these times seems about white.

 

[hal2kilo]

Who would have requested such checking? Why?

This winds up being another case of sunshine doing its thing.

Also, it's likely since no one did real digging previously that he didn't have to repeatedly lie under oath previously, opening himself up to all of the current issues he's facing. It took an amount of effort to get him to totally implode, otherwise he was just coasting on white male privilege all the way into the SCOTUS, which given these times seems about white.

Wonder how quickly his appointment went through when Bush nominated his position, vice any Obama appointment.

 

[crashtech]

Who would have requested such checking? Why?

This winds up being another case of sunshine doing its thing.

Also, it's likely since no one did real digging previously that he didn't have to repeatedly lie under oath previously, opening himself up to all of the current issues he's facing.

That first confirmation was extraordinarily contentious and held up for three years, so I am still surprised that none of this came to light before. There was plenty of motivation displayed by the opposition at that time to dig up something that would have DQ'ed him. I would imagine those who vetted him may have been blind-sided as well.

 

[jackstar7]

That first confirmation was extraordinarily contentious and held up for three years, so I am still surprised that none of this came to light before. There was plenty of motivation displayed by the opposition at that time to dig up something that would have DQ'ed him. I would imagine those who vetted him may have been blind-sided as well.

It sounds like there is a culture of loyalty among his schoolmates from that era. And seeing him rise was apparently a point of pride among all of them.

Check out today's ep of The Daily I posted (in the other thread, I realize now) to hear a little more reporting about it.

 

[hal2kilo]

It sounds like there is a culture of loyalty among his schoolmates from that era. And seeing him rise was apparently a point of pride among all of them.

Check out today's ep of The Daily I posted (in the other thread, I realize now) to hear a little more reporting about it.

Oh, no doubt. Just not on Scull and Cross Bones level.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Samuel Chase was impeached because his rulings were unsatisfactory, not for any specific misconduct.

There has never been a proven rapist nominated to the supreme court yet. If they nominate Kavanaugh there are MANY avenues to impeachment and saying "they've never done it before" is not a good argument because we've never nominate such an unqualified criminal to such a high position before.

The misconduct that has lead (or will lead) to Kavanaughs elevation to the court is unprecedented and requires similarly unprecedented actions to rectify it.

My point is that it has never been done and I don't think it will be done for what amounts to a 'he said - she said' case. It should be enough to prevent him from being confirmed but not to impeach once confirmed, and lying during the confirmation will not be enough either. We all know he lied and they are going to confirm him anyway. Impeaching him on those grounds would escalate partisan tensions too much, it would be a precursor to another civil war. To remove him once seated they would need something solid that can't be ignored or the Republicans are going to scream that it is political revenge and will use the impeachment power once they regain control to remove political rivals. Once that starts to happens our government falls apart and war is imminent.

 

[jackstar7]

My point is that it has never been done and I don't think it will be done for what amounts to a 'he said - she said' case. It should be enough to prevent him from being confirmed but not to impeach once confirmed, and lying during the confirmation will not be enough either. We all know he lied and they are going to confirm him anyway. Impeaching him on those grounds would escalate partisan tensions too much, it would be a precursor to another civil war. To remove him once seated they would need something solid that can't be ignored or the Republicans are going to scream that it is political revenge and will use the impeachment power once they regain control to remove political rivals. Once that starts to happens our government falls apart and war is imminent.

But it ain't he said, she said anymore. It's he lied. Repeatedly. Under oath.

 

[crashtech]

It sounds like there is a culture of loyalty among his schoolmates from that era. And seeing him rise was apparently a point of pride among all of them.

Check out today's ep of The Daily I posted (in the other thread, I realize now) to hear a little more reporting about it.

If there's a transcript or some highlights, I would check those out, but not a 26 min podcast. I don't do podcasts usually, even for things that I find very interesting.

 

[SMOGZINN]

But it ain't he said, she said anymore. It's he lied. Repeatedly. Under oath.

Right, and that is more than enough reason not to confirm him, and that is what should happen. If they do confirm him (and I think they will) then it is not enough to get him impeached, because congress knew he lied and choose to confirm him anyway. If it turns out later that he lied about something substantial that we didn't know about then maybe, but his lies are so transparent that I don't think that will happen.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

But it ain't he said, she said anymore. It's he lied. Repeatedly. Under oath.

Again, where and when. I see no proof, just bullshit comments and partisan allegations. No evidence at all, just hysterical claims by Kavanaugh deniers.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Right, and that is more than enough reason not to confirm him, and that is what should happen. If they do confirm him (and I think they will) then it is not enough to get him impeached, because congress knew he lied and choose to confirm him anyway. If it turns out later that he lied about something substantial that we didn't know about then maybe, but his lies are so transparent that I don't think that will happen.

"If it turns out later he lied about something substantial" Yeah, if, if if. Shoulda, woulda, coulda, prepare to be Mitchslapped this week.

 

[Jimzz]

Without any proof whatsoever, it sure seems like Kennedy made a deal.

Yea something seems off as I read his name was NOT one of the original list of judges sent up. It was added as a favor. Not sure if its he has something on someone but smells more like promote someone from the old boys club to keep power close.

 

[ivwshane]

Yea something seems off as I read his name was NOT one of the original list of judges sent up. It was added as a favor. Not sure if its he has something on someone but smells more like promote someone from the old boys club to keep power close.

He's a Republican lackey and will do their bidding, its in his history. They want him because he's one of them. That is, he'll put party before country.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Again, where and when. I see no proof, just bullshit comments and partisan allegations. No evidence at all, just hysterical claims by Kavanaugh deniers.

This is a day old and likely out of date and incomplete, but, GQ wrote up many of the accusations: https://www.gq.com/story/all-of-brett-kavanaughs-lies
Any time this guy opens his mouth, it seem s like he adds to the list.