Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

[Lanyap]

The fallout from this attack on Kavanaugh is real.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kavana...Id=0&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=0#cxrecs_s

I was just reading an article this morning in the Tampa Bay Times that said the dems have been ramping up for the upcoming elections in Florida and are ready to kick some GOP butt. But now that the dems attacked Kavanaugh the way they did the repubs are re-energizing to come out in force in the elections. So yeah, I believe the dems f'd up by trying to smear Kavanaugh with the sexual assault and drinking narrative.

 

[soundforbjt]

I was just reading an article this morning in the Tampa Bay Times that said the dems have been ramping up for the upcoming elections in Florida and are ready to kick some GOP butt. But now that the dems attacked Kavanaugh the way they did the repubs are re-energizing to come out in force in the elections. So yeah, I believe the dems f'd up by trying to smear Kavanaugh with the sexual assault and drinking narrative.

If the law passes in Florida allowing felons (that have served their time) to vote, that'll be 1.5 million more voters added to the ranks.

 

[Lanyap]

If the law passes in Florida allowing felons (that have served their time) to vote, that'll be 1.5 million more voters added to the ranks.

I've been following the TBT election recommendations and amendment 4 is the only one they recommend a yes vote. Most all of the others are differing issues bundled together in one amendment that don't make sense. Many of the issues are already law.

 

[cytg111]

I was just reading an article this morning in the Tampa Bay Times that said the dems have been ramping up for the upcoming elections in Florida and are ready to kick some GOP butt. But now that the dems attacked Kavanaugh the way they did the repubs are re-energizing to come out in force in the elections. So yeah, I believe the dems f'd up by trying to smear Kavanaugh with the sexual assault and drinking narrative.

Imagine this scenario. Its true. The stories, the witnesses, 90% of it is true.
Imagine that you have a compromised information highway that shoots false information right into the skulls of people and said highway has a monopoly on information two half of America.
Imagine.
Imagine that a false fact factory wins the war on information.
Facts and truth used to mean something and someone(s) are doing what they can to change this for their own enrichment. For personal power gains.

Facts and the right to make up your own mind equals freedom.

A-lot of westerners are not free people at the moment.
A lot.

Fox is making slaves out of free people.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Looks like another W for Trump, another L for the obstructionist Democrats.

 

[SlowSpyder]

You can watch Trump win again live.

 

[Lanyap]

Maybe i spoke too soon, this story must be from the FBI supplemental investigation.
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/10/05/wsj-ford-ally-pressured-keyser-change-story/
or
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/christine-blasey-ford-friend-witness-tampering/

Well that's interesting. That does not surprise me but the sloppiness of the DemOps trying to pressure a witness to interfere does. I believe once the entire FBI report is leaked we'll see more interference from DemOps documented. I also believe that's why Collins and Manchin voted yes because they saw more of this interference by DemOps in the report.

Whether Kavanaugh is appointed or not I believe the FBI should launch a formal criminal investigation into this whole mess.

A friend of Christine Blasey Ford told FBI investigators that she felt pressured by Dr. Ford’s allies to revisit her initial statement that she knew nothing about an alleged sexual assault by a teenage Brett Kavanaugh, which she later updated to say that she believed but couldn’t corroborate Dr. Ford’s account, according to people familiar with the matter.

Leland Keyser, who Dr. Ford has said was present at the gathering where she was allegedly assaulted in the 1980s, told investigators that Monica McLean, a retired Federal Bureau of Investigation agent and a friend of Dr. Ford’s, had urged her to clarify her statement, the people said. …
...

McLean’s name might be familiar to readers. Ford’s ex-boyfriend submitted a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee contradicting Ford’s testimony in the hearing. Ford had claimed that she “never” assisted anyone in preparing for a polygraph exam, but the ex-boyfriend recalled her providing such assistance to her roommate at the time — Monica McLean, who went into the FBI. McLean vehemently denied receiving any such assistance, and that line of inquiry went dead.

WaPo is already starting the narrative for impeachment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...confirmed-impeachment-could-follow-heres-how/

 

[Jhhnn]

Well that's interesting. That does not surprise me but the sloppiness of the DemOps trying to pressure a witness to interfere does. I believe once the entire FBI report is leaked we'll see more interference from DemOps documented. I also believe that's why Collins and Manchin voted yes because they saw more of this interference by DemOps in the report.

Whether Kavanaugh is appointed or not I believe the FBI should launch a formal criminal investigation into this whole mess.





WaPo is already starting the narrative for impeachment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...confirmed-impeachment-could-follow-heres-how/

Yeh, further investigation is closing the barn door after the horses have escaped. No Supreme Court Justice has ever been impeached, either. The notion is bullshit, particularly considering the current makeup of the Senate.

 

[theeedude]

I don’t know that we have a good answer for net neutrality. Trump’s victory and even this whole Kavanaugh affair demonstrates that social media and viral content is a direct threat to our democracy. The pipeline operators are more than just couriers.

So you are fine with your ISP editing or filtering your posts? Kavanaugh thinks they have a First Amendment right to. It's not your real free speech, it's their "free speech" in the form of f that he's concerned with. Read it again, slowly:
“The First Amendment does not allow the FCC to treat Internet service providers as mere pipeline operators rather than as First Amendment-protected editors and speakers.”

 

[Jhhnn]

No wonder conservatives are a mess. On one hand, they fucking lose it when Youtube censors Alex Jones. But if an ISP does it instead, that would be just peachy. Cuz Freedumb.

 

[Lanyap]

Yeh, further investigation is closing the barn door after the horses have escaped. No Supreme Court Justice has ever been impeached, either. The notion is bullshit, particularly considering the current makeup of the Senate.

Yeh, too bad the dems held on to Ford's allegations for as long as they did. That was a DemOps delay tactic that appears to have backfired. Any way you spin it both sides screwed up.

 

[theeedude]

Yeh, too bad the dems held on to Ford's allegations for as long as they did. That was a DemOps delay tactic that appears to have backfired. Any way you spin it both sides screwed up.

I don't think it backfired. Kavanaugh is politically the best of anyone Trump would put on SCOTUS instead of him. Accused rapist ruling to limit women's reproductive rights. That is a political gold mine they can dig for the next 40 years.

 

[alien42]

Yeh, too bad the dems held on to Ford's allegations for as long as they did. That was a DemOps delay tactic that appears to have backfired. Any way you spin it both sides screwed up.

Is DemOps what you call your tinfoil hat?

 

[Starbuck1975]

So you are fine with your ISP editing or filtering your posts? Kavanaugh thinks they have a First Amendment right to. It's not your real free speech, it's their "free speech" in the form of f that he's concerned with. Read it again, slowly:
“The First Amendment does not allow the FCC to treat Internet service providers as mere pipeline operators rather than as First Amendment-protected editors and speakers.”

Are you fine with your ISP filtering out Steve Bannon’s or Alex Jones’ tweets? What if the pipeline operators find themselves liable for the content they transmit? In the age of the Twitter mob, even the pipeline operators need to worry that the mere supporting of certain content is an endorsement of it.

There is not a simple answer to this question, and I don’t see how Kavanaugh’s opinion on this one topic makes him an extremist.

Kavanaugh was in alignment with Garland 93% of the time. I fail to see how that makes him an extremist.

 

[Lanyap]

Imagine this scenario. Its true. The stories, the witnesses, 90% of it is true.
Imagine that you have a compromised information highway that shoots false information right into the skulls of people and said highway has a monopoly on information two half of America.
Imagine.
Imagine that a false fact factory wins the war on information.
Facts and truth used to mean something and someone(s) are doing what they can to change this for their own enrichment. For personal power gains.

Facts and the right to make up your own mind equals freedom.

A-lot of westerners are not free people at the moment.
A lot.

Fox is making slaves out of free people.

I'll let you borrow my tin foil hat. It even has Cheetos glued to it.

 

[Jhhnn]

Are you fine with your ISP filtering out Steve Bannon’s or Alex Jones’ tweets? What if the pipeline operators find themselves liable for the content they transmit? In the age of the Twitter mob, even the pipeline operators need to worry that the mere supporting of certain content is an endorsement of it.

There is not a simple answer to this question, and I don’t see how Kavanaugh’s opinion on this one topic makes him an extremist.

Kavanaugh was in alignment with Garland 93% of the time. I fail to see how that makes him an extremist.

Linky-linky.

 

[Lanyap]

Is DemOps what you call your tinfoil hat?

I was wondering when someone would ask. LOL

DemOps is my new political slang term / acronym for Democratic Operatives (yes they exist - google it). You know, those people behind the scenes trying to manipulate things like the McLean / Keyser incident that come up on the FBI report. Don't worry, the GOP has them too. I call them RepOps.

 

[theeedude]

Are you fine with your ISP filtering out Steve Bannon’s or Alex Jones’ tweets?

No, but Kavanaugh is. He wrote that ISP like Comcast has a first amendment right to edit and filter speech on the way to the customers.

What if the pipeline operators find themselves liable for the content they transmit? In the age of the Twitter mob, even the pipeline operators need to worry that the mere supporting of certain content is an endorsement of it.

I don't think they should be liable under net neutrality, but if they are given the rights of editors, they should also be given the responsibilities, including liability for libel and slander.

There is not a simple answer to this question, and I don’t see how Kavanaugh’s opinion on this one topic makes him an extremist.
Kavanaugh was in alignment with Garland 93% of the time. I fail to see how that makes him an extremist.

So you agree with this statement of Kavanaugh that when ISPs are editors and speakers when they transmit your speech:
“The First Amendment does not allow the FCC to treat Internet service providers as mere pipeline operators rather than as First Amendment-protected editors and speakers.”

 

[Jhhnn]

What if the pipeline operators find themselves liable for the content they transmit?

They're not. That's like saying Telcos are liable for what people say when using their service. It's bullshit.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Is this novel of a thread worth reading or is it mostly just a collection of insults?

I tried to reason with Dank but all he did was act like a typical Democrat and start hurling insults.

He needs to take a civics class.

 

[fskimospy]

Are you fine with your ISP filtering out Steve Bannon’s or Alex Jones’ tweets? What if the pipeline operators find themselves liable for the content they transmit? In the age of the Twitter mob, even the pipeline operators need to worry that the mere supporting of certain content is an endorsement of it.

There is not a simple answer to this question, and I don’t see how Kavanaugh’s opinion on this one topic makes him an extremist.

We should be clear here as to what the purpose of Kavanaugh’s ruling was. It was not about liability for free speech or anything like that, he was saying these companies were engaging in speech by transmitting that content so they could be made immune from business regulation and net neutrality.

Kavanaugh is an excellent expression of the radical right judicial philosophy that the Constitution prohibits most regulations on business.

Kavanaugh was in alignment with Garland 93% of the time. I fail to see how that makes him an extremist.

Most cases aren’t controversial. As an example, Clarence Thomas And Elana Kagan agree nearly 2/3rds of the time and only the most divisive cases get to the Supreme Court.

 

[fskimospy]

Yeh, too bad the dems held on to Ford's allegations for as long as they did. That was a DemOps delay tactic that appears to have backfired. Any way you spin it both sides screwed up.

The republicans were going to get an extreme reactionary no matter what. The only question was if they would get one that will work actively to enable Trump’s corruption.

We all lose there.

 

[Svnla]

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[Blackjack200]

After the Senate hearing, Dems, the Media, and the nation, are covered with Kavanaugh's bullshit. It's beyond what anyone anticipated, and thus overflows the buckets they brought. They are satisfied that they got him because he's now deeply unpopular and former supporters are saying he shouldn't be confirmed. The Dems and the media haven't yet realized that Lucy (Senate Republicans) will simply pull the football away again. A Good Cartoon.

After Kavanaugh is confirmed, Uncle Sam and Lady Justice mourn the death of Due Process and The Presumption of Innocence. The third headstone cannot be seen, but could be "Right to Privacy" or "Reproductive Freedom". A Good Cartoon.

 

[fskimospy]

It’s interesting to me that people think Kavanaugh should be presumed innocent even after it is clear that he lied under oath repeatedly about the topic in question.