Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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HomerJS

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Kavanaughs freshman year roommate wrote an article on Slate. He details Kavanaughs lies, under oath about his drinking and the contents of his yearbook.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-college-roommate-jamie-roche.html


I do not know if Brett attacked Christine Blasey Ford in high school or if he sexually humiliated Debbie in front of a group of people she thought were her friends. But I can say that he lied under oath. He claimed that he occasionally drank too much but never enough to forget details of the night before, never enough to “black out.” He did, regularly. He said that “boofing” was farting and the “Devil’s Triangle” was a drinking game. “Boofing” and “Devil’s Triangle” are sexual references. I know this because I heard Brett and his friends using these terms on multiple occasions.

I can’t imagine that anyone in the Senate wants to confirm an individual to a lifetime appointment on the United States Supreme Court who has demonstrated a willingness to be untruthful under oath about easily verified information.

I do not argue that Brett or anyone else should be persecuted for teenage drinking antics that are common to many, many Americans. My parents once visited Yale unexpectedly to find that I was unresponsive in my dorm room after a long session at Mory’s where friends and I sang and drank from trophy cups way past our limits. I was not a choirboy, but—unlike Brett—I’m not going on national television and testifying under oath that I was. This is not about drinking too much or even encouraging others to drink. It is not about using coarse language or even about the gray area between testing sexual boundaries with a date and sexual abuse. This is about denial. This is about not facing consequences. This is about lying.

In this case, the lies are not trivial: His lies about sexual terms and his drinking are directly relevant to the accusations of Christine Blasey Ford and Debbie Ramirez, which both involved sexual behavior and heavy drinking. The truth would make him look bad and would bolster the credibility of both of these women. In this climate, had he simply said “I don’t remember” or even “If I did these things in my youth I am sorry,” he might have sailed through the confirmation process. But he lied, under oath, like it was nothing.
Just saw his interview on CNN. FBI didn't even try to contact him even though he tried to contact FBI.

This follow-up check is a total sham.

Roommate just confirmed he heard Kavanaugh use the phrase "Devil's Triangle" and he was talking about sex not a drinking game.
 

Maxima1

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Just saw his interview on CNN. FBI didn't even try to contact him even though he tried to contact FBI.

This follow-up check is a total sham.

Roommate just confirmed he heard Kavanaugh use the phrase "Devil's Triangle" and he was talking about sex not a drinking game.

And there's A LOT more people they have been ignoring.
 

JEDI

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"Democrats Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, have yet to declare how they will vote."

I highly doubt they're going to vote yes for Kavanagh.
but why wont they declare their vote?
 

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"Democrats Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, have yet to declare how they will vote."

I highly doubt they're going to vote yes for Kavanagh.
but why wont they declare their vote?
They're red state Democrats. If the writing is on the wall with confirming Bort O'Kavanaugh they will vote to confirm as well. That way it can't be used against them at reelection. It's doubtful that it will be used to primary them given that someone running to the left of them would have no chance in a general election. They don't declare now because they're not sure about the vote count and don't want to end up being the deciding vote.
 
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"Democrats Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, have yet to declare how they will vote."

I highly doubt they're going to vote yes for Kavanagh.
but why wont they declare their vote?
Because the latest North Dakota Senate polls have Heidi down by 13 points to Republican Kramer and is dropping fast in the West Virginia polls?
 
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They're red state Democrats. If the writing is on the wall with confirming Bort O'Kavanaugh they will vote to confirm as well. That way it can't be used against them at reelection. It's doubtful that it will be used to primary them given that someone running to the left of them would have no chance in a general election. They don't declare now because they're not sure about the vote count and don't want to end up being the deciding vote.
I heard he's changed his name to Beto Kavanaugh, so he's cool now.
 
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well the thread is 238 pages, I thought someone could help me out, not insult me.

ANd I love women, especially my mommy. Are you saying that this judge hates women?
I don't get the connection.

what is a "teh lib"
Sorry, but the lefties in the forum are looking defeat in the face after they've done every evil, nasty, vicious and disgusting thing they can to smear a good man. They're angry that it's actually making their poll numbers go down instead of what they thought and hoped would happen. Now they're pissed and hoping to blame it on someone else. Nothing new.
 
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jackstar7

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I'd like to point out how your point of view hurts everyone before I go.
If this last minute lynching of this person is successful , where does it lead?
Wanna run for mayor? judge, president, senate, congress, get a job anywhere?
it will only take one person to accuse you publicly of something you might have or might not have done to ruin you. 2 years or 40 years ago, don't matter, your done, innocent ,? don't matter you are done.
There are far too many cases of false accusations that ruin people and NOTHING is done about it.
And far to many crimes that are not reported ,BUT that does not mean you should be able to roast someones good name, there are many innocent people that are also accused, lets not forget about them also/

thanks for your time,
I appreciate the conversation without name calling.
You know, Kav didn't use the L word, but I'm glad you invoked it, too.

All of you saying lynching need to stop whatever you're doing. Take some vacation days. Get into intense psychological therapy right now.

You're not well.
 
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It didn't hurt Gorsuch and he went to the SAME FUCKING SCHOOL.

You know what happens if he gets seated, Dems take over the House, hold endless hearings and keep Kavanaugh tied up in subpoenas for a few years. He won't even get a chance to get his seat warm. It will be the Democratic version of Benghazi and you fucks will have it coming
It wouldn't matter, he'd still have plenty of time to make honest, fair and impartial rulings as a Justice on the Supreme Court.
 
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HomerJS

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Only with an extremely biased and disreputable asshole like yourself.
You Trump and Kavanaugh supporters are amoral. Trump said so himself by proclaiming he could shoot someone in the street and his people wouldn't care. He's right about that.

Trump is an admitted sexual assaulter and predator and his people still don't care. They support and believe anything he says. That's why in what's left of your mind you can justify putting a liar and unfit candidate on the SC.

I would think the now 650 law professors know a little more then you about fitness for that bench.
 
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You Trump and Kavanaugh supporters are amoral. Trump said so himself by proclaiming he could shoot someone in the street and his people wouldn't care. He's right about that.

Trump is an admitted sexual assaulter and predator and his people still don't care. They support and believe anything he says. That's why in what's left of your mind you can justify putting a liar and unfit candidate on the SC.

I would think the now 650 law professors know a little more then you about fitness for that bench.
If they were 650 nonpartisan professors instead of 650 extremist left wing progressive Democrats. I might think you have a valid point, but they aren't and you don't.
 

HomerJS

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If they were 650 nonpartisan professors instead of 650 extremist left wing progressive Democrats. I might think you have a valid point, but they aren't and you don't.
Another fucking Trumptard lie, proving my point. I know a college professor. When hired political affiliation or voting record is not asked.

Find that Kenyan birth certificated yet, liar??
Find the Obama spy yet, liar??
 
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Another fucking Trumptard lie, proving my point. I know a college professor. When hired political affiliation or voting record is not asked.

Find that Kenyan birth certificated yet, liar??
Find the Obama spy yet, liar??
Seriously you want to make the claim that most of those 650 Professors are conservatives ? Perhaps we can look up some voting records of University professors or where they send political donations to? You got the list? Let's check out some names and affiliations.
 

HomerJS

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Seriously you want to make the claim that most of those 650 Professors are conservatives ? Perhaps we can look up some voting records of University professors or where they send political donations to? You got the list? Let's check out some names and affiliations.
I'm making the claim that those 650 law professors are 650 law professors, nothing more.

You are the one leveling the Trump level conspiracy theories with no evidence. Just like a good baby Trump.

Find the Kenyan birth certificate yet, liar??
Find the Obama spy yet, liar??
 
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I'm making the claim that those 650 law professors are 650 law professors, nothing more.

You are the one leveling the Trump level conspiracy theories with no evidence. Just like a good baby Trump.

Find the Kenyan birth certificate yet, liar??
Find the Obama spy yet, liar??
Tell you what Homer, find a reference by me to either an Obama birth certificate or to an Obama spy in here or anywhere. You won't, but give it the ole college try.
Have you come up with any of those names yet ? We can do a Google check to see who may be right about their affiliations.
 

zinfamous

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You are that person.

For someone saying it doesn't bother them, you're sure trying to get bothered by it. Only you straight up admit that you can't even find the people you want to be bothered by, while you do exactly what you say bothers you.

Do you listen to yourself?

he's very concerned that not enough people are concerned.

obviously.
 

zinfamous

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did anyone come up with real evidence yet?
witnesses, letters, pictures , video, anything that proves he did it, anything?

please don't tell me they think hes guilty because he drank to much 36 years ago in college when he was 16 ,17,18,19 years old? please, give us something real.

i'm still wondering why these ladies didn't come forward when he was appointed a judge?
seems more like perfect timing to me, real fishy.

I keep hearing people say there is eveidence, WHAT EVIDENCE?

lol at this legendary clown, happy medium, suddenly stumbling in here.

You stepped into the middle of this bonfire of a thread, with 215 pages of your dipshit questions already addressed, and still have the temerity to ask everyone to provide you some evidence of "Why is it so fucking hot all of a sudden?"

Go back to defending your precious graphic card company in your safe space forum, you blatant, obvious, unapologetic corporate shill. You can't handle this forum with your patented shit and run nonsense.

Your bed will be a never-ending puddle of stains.
 
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lol at this legendary clown, happy medium, suddenly stumbling in here.

You stepped into the middle of this bonfire of a thread, with 215 pages of your dipshit questions already addressed, and still have the temerity to ask everyone to provide you some evidence of "Why is it so fucking hot all of a sudden?"

Go back to defending your precious graphic card company in your safe space forum, you blatant, obvious, unapologetic corporate shill. You can't handle this forum with your patented shit and run nonsense.

Your bed will be a never-ending puddle of stains.
His honest and reasonable questions were never answered for the simple reason that they have never been answered by any of his accusers.

No "witnesses, letters, pictures , video, anything that proves he did it, anything?"

Because they don't exist. All a nasty smear campaign for the main reason he's a originalist Judge nominated by President Donald Trump.
 

zinfamous

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ok sounds good, what did he lie about? I find it hard to tell the truth, about something I did 36 years ago, I mean how the hell would I remember the facts, at a party? One party would just kinda smear into another one. that would be tough, I must admit.

The ABA doesn't like your bro man. They tried to stop his appointment to his current appelate court position because of obvious, known issues with temperament and complete, unending intractable bias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...s-dismissed-those-too/?utm_term=.45ff4d9b8732

You and your dick-grabbing GOP masters just didn't care then, just as you don't care now. He's "good for you," for reasons that you actually can never spell out to anyone, if you ever tried. And that's it for you. That's all. Everyone and anyone that knows anything about jurisprudence and the law, in the ABA, knows exactly what kind of shitburger this monster of a rapist is, but you don't give a fuck.

Because you know. Your masters told you what you know. And so you just know. Simply because you didn't even know his fucking name 3 months ago. But now he's the Great Rapist Hope! Get him on the Court NAO! Trump demands it! I must follow!

Even Mitch the Turtle warned Trump against the known, and documented perversions and debauchery of this guy, his utter incompetence at this job. This is no mystery, you are actually witnessing a party destroy itself, just to spite itself and to rob you of approximately $1.5 Trillion in cash and growing...yet you still worship at their alter.

Why do you hate yourself in this way?
 

zinfamous

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His honest and reasonable questions were never answered for the simple reason that they have never been answered by any of his accusers.

No "witnesses, letters, pictures , video, anything that proves he did it, anything?"

Because they don't exist. All a nasty smear campaign for the main reason he's a originalist Judge nominated by President Donald Trump.

Why do you think any of these questions are still relevant here, in this job interview? Did you not watch the clown on stage?

Do you have any idea what you are watching? His defense is that he likes beer...a lot. and that also he never drank too much (a roundly proven lie) and that he was also a virgin for almost...forever.

Are you going to let yourself die on this pillar of abject stupidity? And for what? To convince yourself that you "owned some libs!" by convincing only yourself that everyone believes you are so smart with such a good brain argument? This is literally what you are defending, and you fucking know it, you dementia-ridden ass clown.

lol.

None of those questions deserve an answer because not only are they unnecessary for the burden of proof when it comes to this type of evidence gathering, they are completely irrelevant to this process, you old and confused man.

Why don't you get back on that line and start grenading some more babies? It's your favorite past time.
 
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Let me know when some of these make believe stories get corroboration. Until then i'm looking forward to his being confirmed on Saturday.

Why do you think any of these questions are still relevant here, in this job interview? Did you not watch the clown on stage?

Do you have any idea what you are watching?

None of those questions deserve an answer because not only are they unnecessary for the burden of proof when it comes to this type of evidence gathering, they are completely irrelevant to this process, you old and confused man.

Why don't you get back on that line and start grenading some more babies? It's your favorite past time.
 
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