Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

[brycejones]

lol
I'm gonna start playing this game as nastily as the demonrats play.

Yeah, you were always playing an angry asshole so I guess you'll just carry on being a deplorable?

 

[HurleyBird]

Could you not interpret the line of questioning as if Ford had discussed with anyone, besides her lawyers, how SHE should take a poly? As in, did someone prep her for this poly?

"Have you ever given tips or advice to somebody who was looking to take a polygraph test?"

Are you a native English speaker? The above is impossible to interpret the way you suggest. I think the best you could possibly argue from her perspective is that she was under stress and confused, and misheard the question. That might even be plausible. But the actual phrasing of the question doesn't leave any wiggle room for alternative meanings.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Frat boy shows his true colors, Hatch comments on how attractive Ford is, Conservatives will staunchly defend because reasons....shocking.

 

[cytg111]

"Have you ever given tips or advice to somebody who was looking to take a polygraph test?"

Are you a native English speaker? The above is impossible to interpret the way you suggest. I think the best you could possibly argue from her perspective is that she was under stress and confused, and misheard the question. That might even be plausible. But the actual phrasing of the question doesn't leave any wiggle room for alternative meanings.

No, and yes my bad.. that is tough to get wrong.

 

[cytg111]

Oh boy... Incoming

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1047226356831059970

They are pouring out of the woodwork now...

 

[HomerJS]

More evidence the fix in is on the FBI followup background investigation. Witnesses have not been able to reach the FBI.

Some witnesses say they called FBI in vain as end of Kavanaugh probe looms

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...h-probe-looms/ar-BBNRAZJ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

 

[HomerJS]

Agreed.
We should hold Kavanaugh to the same standard I presume?

Of course he doesn't think so. It's all tribal to him.

 

[cytg111]

Of course he doesn't think so. It's all tribal to him.

I suspect as much, still we gotta try and reach that consensus dont we, otherwise what are we doing here but sling feces at eachother. If we all could agree to hold eachother to the same standards that would be a good start.

 

[Zorba]

That's a little different than anything being alleged here. Those were persons in a position of trust and authority, taking advantage of the young and innocent, kind of like what Bill did to Monica.

You mean the completely of age woman that sought to have an affair with Clinton before she even started at the white house, then gave him completely consensual foreplay? Yeah, that is the same thing as priests raping preteens. That is some fucking sick bothsidizms. And yet you claim Democrats are the ones without morals.

 

[fskimospy]

The argument that because Bill Clinton wasn’t convicted we should no longer punish perjury seems completely insane to me.

Make no mistake, that’s exactly the argument.

 

[HomerJS]

I suspect as much, still we gotta try and reach that consensus dont we, otherwise what are we doing here but sling feces at eachother. If we all could agree to hold eachother to the same standards that would be a good start.

That's really tough when we can't even agree that one moon orbits the earth, you know get past basic facts.

us: Only one moon orbits the earth.
them: Well that's your opinion, I have my facts and you are an elitist

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's definitely still limited if true. Could all be done by tonight. It'll probably end up looking like Mitchell's bullshit memo.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/kavanaugh/card/1538511155

FBI Probe of Kavanaugh Is Expected to Wrap Up Very Soon

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) said that in his 38 years on the Senate, "an FBI report, as far as I know, has never been made public" and that it could hurt the FBI in future investigations if the report was made public.

Never let it be said that the Party of Trump doesn't have a sense of perverse humor and unrivaled hypocrisy.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

lol @ the democrats

such a pathetic attempt to stop kavanaugh

Kavanaugh himself should have stopped Kavanaugh. Hell, Hillary is better equipped than this guy. I should not be surprised that if she wants a nomination to the SCOTUS by a Dem President she'd survive the process in spite of whatever the Reps threw at her and they'd make Kavanaugh's time before the Judiciary Committee look like a trip to Candy Mountain, and I still don't care for the woman, but not because of Benghazi and other nonsense. She's got the balls that BK never had.

 

[cytg111]

That's really tough when we can't even agree that one moon orbits the earth, you know get past basic facts.

us: Only one moon orbits the earth.
them: Well that's your opinion, I have my facts and you are an elitist

How do you look at a conservative? I bet its not the same way a conservative looks at you. A wast of human skin democrat, not worthy of being pissed on if you were on fire. I get the impression that right wing media has riled up their base to the point where I imagine that Nazis must have been looking at jews back then.. You are not a real real human being in their optics anymore. As this progresses the left side of this equation can do a couple of things, do nothing and let nature take its course, regain power and dismantle the alt right propaganda infrastructure and hope for normalization, OR radicalize and go toe to toe with the right.
Information, flow of information is a biitch and those who controls it often cnts.

 

[Jaskalas]

The argument that because Bill Clinton wasn’t convicted we should no longer punish perjury seems completely insane to me.

Make no mistake, that’s exactly the argument.

Bill Clinton was punished for perjury. He was disbarred.
Removing Kavanaugh from the bench seems appropriate if he has done the same.

 

[HomerJS]

Trumpy not helping Kavanaugh's case...

The Latest: Flake says Trump's mocking of Ford 'appalling'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-flake-says-trumps-mocking-ford-appalling-113836942--politics.html

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's been my observation that people expect other people to act like they do, for example a crooked boss imagines his employees are crooked also. It's a variation of projection, I suppose, sorry to see that although you barely know me that you'd fall into that trap. I do see party before country in a substantial number of posts here, though not mainly by who you call "deplorables."

I'll agree with much of this. For example, I expect our leaders to be competent and ethical, attempt to be rational and act in the interests of the entire nation. That forthrightness is the public's due, at least as far as can be done without giving away issues of national security.

The above is an ideal and people are imperfect, however, it seems to me to be a goal to constantly strive for. In the example you cited the workers have no say in their honesty of their boss, no legal or moral expectation that is their due unless it's in terms of what directly involves them, but when there is illegality they sure have the right to appeal to someone who should be above board in government if there is fraud or other wrongdoing. Good luck with that.

But Trump isn't our "boss". He's our servant who has never served a day in his life. He's taken the power the Office invests in him and has shown himself to be a willing abuser of the rule of law. Any person who acts in this way has met the threshold of Franklin and others for removal from office. Unfortunately, the intent of the Founders is inconsequential to the Republicans when it comes to Trump.

Kavanaugh has demonstrated that he hasn't a "judicial temperament". He has demonstrated his unsuitability, his partisanship (distinct from ideology) and is wholly unworthy. He was nominated apart from a recommended list of those who would likely have passed. Why? No one knows, but we have Trump's nature once again, one of self above all else. Kavanaugh demonstrates a willingness to shield Trump and that is sufficient. Quid pro quo.

 

[outriding]

It's an area off the coast of Bermuda.
The Devil's Triangle (1973) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071416/
or a drinking game

You need to get out more...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Trumpy not helping Kavanaugh's case...

The Latest: Flake says Trump's mocking of Ford 'appalling'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-flake-says-trumps-mocking-ford-appalling-113836942--politics.html

I saw Flake and Chris Coons on the Atlantic stream yesterday, the same one where Hillary was quite impressive in a discussion with the interviewer. Coons vouched for Flake's character if not his party and their positions, and it was they who got the less than perfect FBI investigation, the one sabotaged by Trump. If Flake wishes to keep the respect of Coons and others concerned with the nation, it's time for him to break with party and choose conscience.

Will he? Well that remains to be seen of course. It's possible that he might vote for in the Committee and against in the Senate, but again we'll see.

We'll see if anyone on the Republican side can do their duty or are proof of how horrible our party system, expecially Republicans, are.

 

[Jhhnn]

Kavanaugh is Schrodinger's nominee- an absolute choir boy & treasurer of the 100 keg club...

 

[thilanliyan]

Is anyone going to be surprised when the FBI "finds" nothing (especially after not speaking to key people)? The appearance of an investigation is all that was required.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

The question was asked "besides you attorneys did you discuss how to take a polygraph". Clearly that question was in context of taking a test before her testimony. The ex described 1992-1998 waaaaaaaaay before any of this was considered. According to him she gave advice as someone who has a background in psychology. That has nothing to do with the test she took 26 years later.

Nice try.

You obviously didn't continue watching her testimony from the 3:18 point.

 

[IronWing]

Is anyone going to be surprised when the FBI "finds" nothing (especially after not speaking to key people)? The appearance of an investigation is all that was required.

That suits the radical right just fine. The goal is to discredit every governmental and social institution. Only the great leader can take us out of the chaos created.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Is anyone going to be surprised when the FBI "finds" nothing (especially after not speaking to key people)? The appearance of an investigation is all that was required.

I won't be, because there really isn't anything to find.

 

[thilanliyan]

I won't be, because there really isn't anything to find.

How can they know if there isn't anything to find if they don't speak to key witnesses?
I think it will be EXTREMELY difficult to actually prove anything, but they really should be speaking to certain people if they want to do a real background check.