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totalcommand

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
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So you keep claiming, still waiting for links. I searched for your claims re. Andrea Mitchell. The only links I could find were from the loony right-wing blogs.
... Of course right-wing links are the only place you're going to find it. The lefty fruit looper blogs would ignore anything that might destroy their blindered worldview.

And, of course, you can't link to a TV show. But I've already told you that once. Maybe you missed it previously since it seems to be one of your delusional "Chicken is running again" remarks.
And TV shows often have transcripts, or are quoted in other media. Maybe you missed this obvious possibility because you were too busy bottom feeding on Free Republic, looking for more lies to parrot.
Ever find those links, Sir Chicken? Did your freeper friends betray you?
Ever find those links to prove Wilson didn't pass along classified infomation, like you claimed? Or did your DU terrorist friends betray you?

Run finger, run.



Be reasonable. You obviously missed my posts. Rather than fix the link in my original which was so many pages back, simply check this out. Find out what the "mainstream" media (36 of them) hold to be true when they can be held accountable. Read what the law says on this issue. If that is too much reading check my posts. You can start with Anandtech Forums

Amici Brief 32305.

If the document is moved again search the entire site for Amici Brief 32305. The first entry was
  • Baker & Hostetler LLP | Media Law
    3/23/2005 Amici Brief in Confidential Sources Case on Behalf of 36 Media Organizations
Click on that link and then click on the labeled.
  • "3/23/2005 Amici Brief in Confidential Sources Case on Behalf of 36 Media Organizations"
I've already read the brief. I was one of the first ones in this thread to post the article citing and linking to the brief.

you deserve a medal.
::yawn::

:moon:
It demonstrates quite clearly how the 'non-liberal' media is talking out both sides of its mouth on this issue. They claim there's nothing there and no laws were broken, but don't forget, Rove is guilty. :confused:

The media never said he's guilty. Nice strawman though.
There are quite a few media outlets, like the NY Times, that seem to be working overtime to imply it.

If you call the very publishing of leaked evidence "implying". I call it reporting. There is no opinion written into the articles (I noticed in rebuttal you cited the article itself).

You're probably confusing "implying" with "letting people draw their own conclusions".

Now the lefties are jumping up and down about information being leaked from a classified memo that claims a paragraph with Plames name was marked secret, even though the article specifically states:

"Anyone reading that paragraph should have been aware that it contained secret information, though that designation was not specifically attached to Plame's name and did not describe her status as covert, the sources said."

Was it marked secret because it contained Plame's name, or because there was other secret infromation in that paragraph? No matter,

Exactly, it doesn't matter. Everything in the paragraph - Plame's identity, any other information, was secret.
Yet it was leaked, again, for someone to write this article. Where's your outrage? Or is your outrage over leaks only limited to when someone you despise does it?

I would rather wait for the prosecutor's full report, but that doesn't prevent me (or you yourself) from commenting on what has come out so far.

they bull right on ahead and make more jumps to conclusion.

that makes no sense.
To you and those who refuse to make sense of it, probably not. I bet others can make perfect sense of it though. We've watched the left constantly shift the goalposts on their claims from traitor, to Rove is guilty of releasing classified information, to 'Well, even if he isn't guilty he should still be fired because he's morally wrong.' Every time new infromation comes out thast demonstrates that Rove probably won't be frog marched anywhere, they jump to a brand new conclusion.

I never called Rove a traitor, never said he was guilty of any crime. I think he is morally bankrupt just from his talking to Cooper about this, just like any other politician. But he made himself a huge target by repeating the dirty tactics over the years.

They haven't jumped around in my opinion. They're pretty steady in saying that Rove should be fired if Bush wants to keep his word.

Also, we know Plame's name was still kept secret by the CIA, at least half-heartedly after they screwed up themselves and divulged her identity, but that fact still doesn't necessarily qualify her as a covert agent under the law.

Right, blame the CIA now. Her secret status - as determined by the CIA, not the criminal law you refer to - was blown by a administration official according to Novak.
Right. It's me blaming the CIA now. :roll:

Have you forgotten about the amici brief already?

You're drawing conclusions that cannot be fully supported, much like some lefties are.

Nor does it prove that Rove knew Plame was covert either.

Of course not. Each individual piece of evidence might not prove it, but together, a prosecutor can weave a story. The key piece that hasn't been leaked to the press yet is if the prosecutor has hard evidence that Rove or Libby saw this State Department memo.

But this memo is still an important piece of evidence.
It hasn't been leaked yet whether the prosecutor has hard evidence that Rove or Libby didn't see the memo either. Works both ways.

Umm, you just repeated what I said. Bottom line, we don't know. But this memo is a key piece of evidence regardless.

But one seemingly can't get those kind of facts through to those taking a header off the conclusions mat.

Sad, isn't it?

The sad part is that you attack every piece of evidence on its own, and refuse to look at the larger picture.
Overall the larger picture thus far indicates Rove is likely in the clear. I'm not refusing to look at the larger picture - which imo, includes Wilson's antics as well - I'm debating every time the lefties drag out a new talking point or regurgitate an old one. It's the left who are looking at this frame-by-frame and are absolutely refusing to acknowledge the overall here, not me. They bring up a talking point, get all giddy, find out it's useless, and move onto a new one. Their talking point today is the WahPost article by Pincus, which means squat because it quotes anonymous sources and anonymous sources - left, center, and right - have been missing wildly throughout this debacle.

You and the lefties (and me) differ only in what the defintion of "in the clear" is. Rove probably hasn't committed any crime, but what he did with Cooper is still wrong regardless. And if Bush stuck to his word, he should have fired Rove.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
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So you keep claiming, still waiting for links. I searched for your claims re. Andrea Mitchell. The only links I could find were from the loony right-wing blogs.
... Of course right-wing links are the only place you're going to find it. The lefty fruit looper blogs would ignore anything that might destroy their blindered worldview.

And, of course, you can't link to a TV show. But I've already told you that once. Maybe you missed it previously since it seems to be one of your delusional "Chicken is running again" remarks.
And TV shows often have transcripts, or are quoted in other media. Maybe you missed this obvious possibility because you were too busy bottom feeding on Free Republic, looking for more lies to parrot.
Ever find those links, Sir Chicken? Did your freeper friends betray you?
Ever find those links to prove Wilson didn't pass along classified infomation, like you claimed? Or did your DU terrorist friends betray you?

Run finger, run.



Be reasonable. You obviously missed my posts. Rather than fix the link in my original which was so many pages back, simply check this out. Find out what the "mainstream" media (36 of them) hold to be true when they can be held accountable. Read what the law says on this issue. If that is too much reading check my posts. You can start with Anandtech Forums

Amici Brief 32305.

If the document is moved again search the entire site for Amici Brief 32305. The first entry was
  • Baker & Hostetler LLP | Media Law
    3/23/2005 Amici Brief in Confidential Sources Case on Behalf of 36 Media Organizations
Click on that link and then click on the labeled.
  • "3/23/2005 Amici Brief in Confidential Sources Case on Behalf of 36 Media Organizations"
I've already read the brief. I was one of the first ones in this thread to post the article citing and linking to the brief.

you deserve a medal.
::yawn::

It demonstrates quite clearly how the 'non-liberal' media is talking out both sides of its mouth on this issue. They claim there's nothing there and no laws were broken, but don't forget, Rove is guilty. :confused:

The media never said he's guilty. Nice strawman though.
There are quite a few media outlets, like the NY Times, that seem to be working overtime to imply it.

Now the lefties are jumping up and down about information being leaked from a classified memo that claims a paragraph with Plames name was marked secret, even though the article specifically states:

"Anyone reading that paragraph should have been aware that it contained secret information, though that designation was not specifically attached to Plame's name and did not describe her status as covert, the sources said."

Was it marked secret because it contained Plame's name, or because there was other secret infromation in that paragraph? No matter,

Exactly, it doesn't matter. Everything in the paragraph - Plame's identity, any other information, was secret.
Yet it was leaked, again, for someone to write this article. Where's your outrage? Or is your outrage over leaks only limited to when someone you despise does it?

they bull right on ahead and make more jumps to conclusion.

that makes no sense.
To you and those who refuse to make sense of it, probably not. I bet others can make perfect sense of it though. We've watched the left constantly shift the goalposts on their claims from traitor, to Rove is guilty of releasing classified information, to 'Well, even if he isn't guilty he should still be fired because he's morally wrong.' Every time new infromation comes out thast demonstrates that Rove probably won't be frog marched anywhere, they jump to a brand new conclusion.

Also, we know Plame's name was still kept secret by the CIA, at least half-heartedly after they screwed up themselves and divulged her identity, but that fact still doesn't necessarily qualify her as a covert agent under the law.

Right, blame the CIA now. Her secret status - as determined by the CIA, not the criminal law you refer to - was blown by a administration official according to Novak.
Right. It's me blaming the CIA now. :roll:

Have you forgotten about the amici brief already?

Nor does it prove that Rove knew Plame was covert either.

Of course not. Each individual piece of evidence might not prove it, but together, a prosecutor can weave a story. The key piece that hasn't been leaked to the press yet is if the prosecutor has hard evidence that Rove or Libby saw this State Department memo.

But this memo is still an important piece of evidence.
It hasn't been leaked yet whether the prosecutor has hard evidence that Rove or Libby didn't see the memo either. Works both ways.


But one seemingly can't get those kind of facts through to those taking a header off the conclusions mat.

Sad, isn't it?

The sad part is that you attack every piece of evidence on its own, and refuse to look at the larger picture.
Overall the larger picture thus far indicates Rove is likely in the clear. I'm not refusing to look at the larger picture - which imo, includes Wilson's antics as well - I'm debating every time the lefties drag out a new talking point or regurgitate an old one. It's the left who are looking at this frame-by-frame and are absolutely refusing to acknowledge the overall here, not me. They bring up a talking point, get all giddy, find out it's useless, and move onto a new one. Their talking point today is the WahPost article by Pincus, which means squat because it quotes anonymous sources and anonymous sources - left, center, and right - have been missing wildly throughout this debacle.


They are also using logic similar to "false but true" where they are beginning to acknowledge that no crime was committed but he must still be fired and while we are at it fire all the conservatives.

Taken from their hero ?Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it.?
 
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Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
They are also using logic similar to "false but true" where they are beginning to acknowledge that no crime was committed but he must still be fired and while we are at it fire all the conservatives.

Taken from their hero ?Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it.?
Exactly.

They are doing their best to muddy the waters as well by throwing together the terms "classified," "covert agent," "undercover," and "clandestine" and mashing them all together to create confusion.

I've put down a wager here that means something and has consequences for the person that is wrong.

Notice how not a single one of those arguing that Plame was a covert agent is stepping up to the plate and accepting that offer. Pretty telling about how convinced they are of their own arguments in the matter, isn't it?

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
They are also using logic similar to "false but true" where they are beginning to acknowledge that no crime was committed but he must still be fired and while we are at it fire all the conservatives.

Taken from their hero ?Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it.?
Exactly.

They are doing their best to muddy the waters as well by throwing together the terms "classified," "covert agent," "undercover," and "clandestine" and mashing them all together to create confusion.

I've put down a wager here that means something and has consequences for the person that is wrong.

Notice how not a single one of those arguing that Plame was a covert agent is stepping up to the plate and accepting that offer. Pretty telling about how convinced they are of their own arguments in the matter, isn't it?
Yawn. Typical BushCo misdirection: accuse your opponent of using the tactics actually being used by the BushCo drones. I think Time summed it up nicely:
And all the while, Rove's defenders were artfully pivoting from saying he hadn't done anything to saying he hadn't done anything wrong, that Plame wasn't really a secret agent anyway, or if she was, Rove didn't know that, or if he did, he only brought her up because he was trying to keep reporters from writing a bad story based on Wilson's false charges, and besides, it was a reporter who blew Plame's cover to him in the first place and not the other way around.
:laugh:

Re. your "wager", get over yourself. It's another of your lame diversions, your desperate attempt to change the subject, to draw attention away from the fact you got nailed in a lie about Wilson's book. You cannot ever admit to being wrong about anything, so you're trying to make your failure fade away while you blow smoke about other issues. The more we refuse to be baited, the more shrill you become.

Run, Chicken, run.
 
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Re. your "wager", get over yourself. It's another of your lame diversions, your desperate attempt to change the subject, to draw attention away from the fact you got nailed in a lie about Wilson's book. You cannot ever admit to being wrong about anything, so you're trying to make your failure fade away while you blow smoke about other issues. The more we refuse to be baited, the more shrill you become.

Run, Chicken, run.
Isn't Chickenfinger's strawman incredible?

For those who haven't actually read the book, Chickenfinger is asking for quotes that don't exist. Wilson states that he and Plame both moved to Washington DC from their overseas assignments in 1997. Nowhere in the book does he mention they were stantioned anyhere else. Why doesn't he state that? Because they weren't, so he can't. They've both been in Washington DC the entire time.

But Chicknefinger claims Plame was still a covert agent. But does he provide any sort of proof whatsoever? Does he proffer any links to substantiate that Plame was subsequently stationed overseas on assignment?

Of course not. Because this is yet another of his blustery, handwaving moments.

Then he tries to discount my wager. If he had any spine or fortitude and actually believed the BS he was spewing, he'd be happy to take the wager. But he doesn't. Does anyone question why that is?

Nor has he ever backed up his own contention that Wilson didn't spill classified information. He just diverts and redirects every time I ask him for a link.

You're quite the gutless wonder, Chickenfinger. Maybe having no guts is why you're so transparent?

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Re. your "wager", get over yourself. It's another of your lame diversions, your desperate attempt to change the subject, to draw attention away from the fact you got nailed in a lie about Wilson's book. You cannot ever admit to being wrong about anything, so you're trying to make your failure fade away while you blow smoke about other issues. The more we refuse to be baited, the more shrill you become.

Run, Chicken, run.
Isn't Chickenfinger's strawman incredible?

For those who haven't actually read the book, Chickenfinger is asking for quotes that don't exist. Wilson states that he and Plame both moved to Washington DC from their overseas assignments in 1997. Nowhere in the book does he mention they were stantioned anyhere else. Why doesn't he state that? Because they weren't, so he can't. They've both been in Washington DC the entire time.

But Chicknefinger claims Plame was still a covert agent. But does he provide any sort of proof whatsoever? Does he proffer any links to substantiate that Plame was subsequently stationed overseas on assignment?

Of course not. Because this is yet another of his blustery, handwaving moments.

Then he tries to discount my wager. If he had any spine or fortitude and actually believed the BS he was spewing, he'd be happy to take the wager. But he doesn't. Does anyone question why that is?

Nor has he ever backed up his own contention that Wilson didn't spill classified information. He just diverts and redirects every time I ask him for a link.

You're quite the gutless wonder, Chickenfinger. Maybe having no guts is why you're so transparent?
What a flip-flopper. Sir Chicken is fleeing from his own words while spewing more personal attacks and lame diversions. Pity for him his words are immortalized in black & white for anyone who cares to go look them up. Even bigger pity for him I'm willing to do so (what with having the afternoon off, and all).

Sir "It's only a flesh wound" Chicken would have you believe I'm the one making assertions about what Wilson's book says, while he has claimed the relevent quotes are not in the book. In fact, as clearly shown in the exchange below, that is exactly backwards. Sir Chicken claimed Wilson's book contains "proof" Plame "had not been out of the country on assignment for the CIA for longer than 5 years before she was outed." I then challenged him to produce a quote from Wilson's book demonstrating his assertion, and he has been dancing away from his assertions ever since. Now he admits they're "quotes that don't exist", which is exactly what I said in the first place. But it's my fault for pointing out the truth. On second thought, scratch "flip-flopper". He's just one of George's most devout fan-boys. Lying, hypocrisy, and a complete lack of personal integrity are just part of the job.


(Note: some of the nested quoting below has been trimmed to eliminate redundant exchanges and some of the gratuitous personal attacks having nothing to do with the body of the exchange. This is marked with ellipsis.)
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
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[ TLC: ] Plame had not been out of the country on assignment for the CIA for longer than 5 years before she was outed. That's primary requirement was not met, therefore she does not qualify as a covert agent under the law.

We've been over this a multiple times already in the other thread.
[ Bow: ] Yes, and you've been shown wrong multiple times, a fact you keep evading. Your claim is not proven, no matter how often you claim otherwise. It is another BushCo propaganda point, partisan speculation asserted as fact to draw attention from the evidence to the contrary, including the excellent quotes above. While they may not be conclusive, it is more than you can present to support your claim. ...
[ TLC: ] I've already stated numerous times where my proof is. Read Wilson's book. ...
[ Bow: ] Chicken is "mistaken" again.

There is nothing in Wilson's book suggesting his wife had no further overseas or covert assignments after they were married and moved back to D.C. In fact, he does not talk at all about the kinds of assignments she worked on during that period. Wilson barely mentions her (except for their romance) until the White House exposed her. In short, this is just another BushCo propaganda point, more disinformation to draw attention away from shameful, possibly criminal behavior.
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[ Bow: ] Bull. Your link is mistaken, speculating about information not actually in the book ... just like you. I not only read the book, I own a copy. There's nothing there about what Plame did once they moved back to the U.S. (and before Novak attacked). This is a perfect opportunity to prove me wrong. Provide quotes from the book supporting your claim. You can't because they aren't there. If your quotes are in it, I will gracefully acknowledge my error and apologize (something you'll never have the integrity to do).

In short, put up or slink back under your rock. I'm betting you'll either reply with your usual empty noise, or you'll run away entirely. What you won't do is provide a quote that proves your case. Why? Because you can't. It's just another of your lies.
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[ TLC: ] Tell you what Finger. Let's cut through the horsesh!t here and see who's really convinced of their position. Let's make a wager for all to see.

We will wait until Fitzgerald releases the truth of the matter.

If I'm wrong about Plame's status of not being a covert agent, I'll stop posting in this forum, forever, as TLC or anyone else.

If you're wrong in your assertion that Plame is a covert agent, then you stop posting here, forever, as Bowfinger or anyone else.

Deal?
[ Bow: ] "What you won't do is provide a quote that proves your case. Why? Because you can't."

Still no quote, just more evasion. You are a fraud. Even worse, you are a joke. Run, Chicken, run.
[ TLC: ] I offered you a deal to prove out your so frequent and silly bravodo stance and blustery prose. Yet you ignore it?

So who's the chicken now?

:laugh:
[ Bow: ] "What you won't do is provide a quote that proves your case. Why? Because you can't."

Still no quote, just more evasion. You're desperately trying to change the subject; why would I let you off the hook? I've nailed you in a lie and everyone knows it. If you had an ounce of integrity, you'd admit you were wrong and move on.

It's just a flesh wound. :laugh:

Note my prescient prediction: "What you won't do is provide a quote that proves your case. Why? Because you can't." (OK, it was easy. Chicken is so predictable when he's cornered.)

So how are you coming on a quote from Wilson's book that demonstrates your claim, Chicken? Oh that's right, you admitted they don't exist. I'd say that makes you PWNED!

:laugh:
 

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[ TLC: ] I've already stated numerous times where my proof is. Read Wilson's book.
Yep. You made the claim, TLC. A little "Whoops, my bad" would put this whole thing to rest. Constant denial just makes you look worse.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
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Nor has he ever backed up his own contention that Wilson didn't spill classified information. He just diverts and redirects every time I ask him for a link. ...
Still more of Sir "It's only a flesh wound" Chicken's signature dishonesty. Sir Chicken invented an absurd charge Wilson leaked classified information when he exposed BushCo's deception about Iraq and Niger. He offered nothing to support this charge except one poorly-worded sentence in one article that he has completely misrepresented. Never mind that not even the Bush administration is making this claim (in spite of their many other dishonest attempts to smear Wilson). Never mind that it's BushCo being investigated, not Wilson. Never mind that Wilson did NOT sign a confidentiality agreement for his trip to Niger. Never mind that Chicken is flapping alone in the wind, without a single piece of evidence to support him.

Never mind all of those inconvenient facts, Chicken refuses to offer any support for his loony theory while demanding that I prove a negative, that Wilson did NOT leak classified information. I guess all I can do is defer to the resident expert on dishonest tactics, who said: "Asking for the unattainable as proof, when you know damn well it's unattainable, is a highly dishonest tactic." (That's a TLC quote, in case you're wondering.)

How are you coming on proving George is NOT Karl's love slave, Sir Chicken?

:laugh:
 

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How are you coming on proving George is NOT Karl's love slave, Sir Chicken?

:laugh:
WOW!!! That's news to me. I thought Rove was Jeff Gannon/Guckert's butt buddy. Does he know Rove's been cheating on him? :shocked:
 

umbrella39

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Yep, amazing that the party that hates and/or fears the homosexuals could be so infatuated with a closet homo like Rove.
 

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Yep, amazing that the party that hates and/or fears the homosexuals could be so infatuated with a closet homo like Rove.

You are all aware, I'm SURE, that these hypocrite pseudo-"homphobes" named KEN MEHLMAN, a known queer, to head the RNC, right? And that the same Ken Mehlman, now secure in his closet after threatening "friends and acquaintances" if they outed his gay a$$, is now queer-bashing in the RNC!

This seems to be a recurring theme in authoritarian circles.

 
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BFer just wants to keep being dishonest and ignore backing up his own spurious claims.

Typical.

Let me know when you're ready to fess up, then we can talk subsequent issues and discussions.

Till then you have no leg to stand talking about me avoiding issues while you're doing the very same.

Tata.
 

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BFer just wants to keep being dishonest and ignore backing up his own spurious claims.

Typical.

Let me know when you're ready to fess up, then we can talk subsequent issues and discussions.

Till then you have no leg to stand talking about me avoiding issues while you're doing the very same.

Tata.

Allow me...

Run, Chicken, Run.
 
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
BFer just wants to keep being dishonest and ignore backing up his own spurious claims.

Typical.

Let me know when you're ready to fess up, then we can talk subsequent issues and discussions.

Till then you have no leg to stand talking about me avoiding issues while you're doing the very same.

Tata.

Allow me...

Run, Chicken, Run.
So you're joining in on the looper CJ with the rest of 'em, eh, while ignoring that BF still hasn't addressed his claim about Wilson?

No surprise.

Edit: Are you going to take me up on my wager? None of the other yellow-bellies in here that are so cocksure want to and run from it (the REAL runners).

How about it Gaard?
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
BFer just wants to keep being dishonest and ignore backing up his own spurious claims.

Typical.

Let me know when you're ready to fess up, then we can talk subsequent issues and discussions.

Till then you have no leg to stand talking about me avoiding issues while you're doing the very same.

Tata.

Allow me...

Run, Chicken, Run.
So you're joining in on the looper CJ with the rest of 'em, eh, while ignoring that BF still hasn't addressed his claim about Wilson?

No surprise.

Edit: Are you going to take me up on my wager? None of the other yellow-bellies in here that are so cocksure want to and run from it (the REAL runners).

How about it Gaard?
How 'ya coming on proving George isn't Karl's love slave, Chicken?

Run, Chicken, run. :laugh:
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
BFer just wants to keep being dishonest and ignore backing up his own spurious claims.

Typical.

Let me know when you're ready to fess up, then we can talk subsequent issues and discussions.

Till then you have no leg to stand talking about me avoiding issues while you're doing the very same.

Tata.
Allow me...

Run, Chicken, Run.
Much obliged. So many evasions, so little time.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
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Nor has he ever backed up his own contention that Wilson didn't spill classified information. He just diverts and redirects every time I ask him for a link. ...
Still more of Sir "It's only a flesh wound" Chicken's signature dishonesty. Sir Chicken invented an absurd charge Wilson leaked classified information when he exposed BushCo's deception about Iraq and Niger. He offered nothing to support this charge except one poorly-worded sentence in one article that he has completely misrepresented. Never mind that not even the Bush administration is making this claim (in spite of their many other dishonest attempts to smear Wilson). Never mind that it's BushCo being investigated, not Wilson. Never mind that Wilson did NOT sign a confidentiality agreement for his trip to Niger. Never mind that Chicken is flapping alone in the wind, without a single piece of evidence to support him.

Never mind all of those inconvenient facts, Chicken refuses to offer any support for his loony theory while demanding that I prove a negative, that Wilson did NOT leak classified information. I guess all I can do is defer to the resident expert on dishonest tactics, who said: "Asking for the unattainable as proof, when you know damn well it's unattainable, is a highly dishonest tactic." (That's a TLC quote, in case you're wondering.)

How are you coming on proving George is NOT Karl's love slave, Sir Chicken?

:laugh:
You must have missed this Sir Chicken. I'm sure you're eager to prove your damning claims about Wilson's disclosure of classified information. (Might want to let BushCo know too. They seem to have missed it. Easy to understand, they probably don't have any political and legal experts of your caliber.)


Side note: does anyone here know the caliber of an exhaust pipe?
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
BFer just wants to keep being dishonest and ignore backing up his own spurious claims.

Typical.

Let me know when you're ready to fess up, then we can talk subsequent issues and discussions.

Till then you have no leg to stand talking about me avoiding issues while you're doing the very same.

Tata.

Allow me...

Run, Chicken, Run.
So you're joining in on the looper CJ with the rest of 'em, eh, while ignoring that BF still hasn't addressed his claim about Wilson?

No surprise.

Edit: Are you going to take me up on my wager? None of the other yellow-bellies in here that are so cocksure want to and run from it (the REAL runners).

How about it Gaard?
Do you stand by what you said earlier? About being a Liberal?

 

conjur

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Tomorrow's Wall Street Journal to report that the State Dept memo was marked TOP SECRET : DO NOT SHARE WITH FOREIGN NATIONALS
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: conjur
Tomorrow's Wall Street Journal to report that the State Dept memo was marked TOP SECRET : DO NOT SHARE WITH FOREIGN NATIONALS

but, but, but conjur. the reporters aren't foreign nationals. how were the bush administration officials supposed to know??? :D