Karl Rove on why Romney lost: Obama was 'suppressing the vote'

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NFS4

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I guess Karl Rove is still a bit in shock. How could his models and the internal pollsters be wrong! This can't be happening!!

That being said, I'm still trying to get over this election night Ohio meltdown.

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Appearing on Fox News Thursday, Rove implied that Obama’s suppression strategy was to make Romney unlikeable, so that the Republican’s potential supporters wouldn’t show up to vote for him.

“He succeeded by suppressing the vote, by saying to people, 'you may not like who I am, and I know you can’t bring yourself to vote for me, but I’m going to paint this other guy as simply a rich guy who only cares about himself,' ” Rove said.

By his definition of suppression, it sounds just like traditional “opposition research” and negative advertising. Does Rove (himself a purveyor of negative ads in his work for George W. Bush and now at the Crossroads GPS group) have some different point to make, or is this just sour grapes over the election outcome?

Fox News host Megyn Kelly responded to Rove. “But I mean [Obama] won, Karl, he won.”

Before she interjected, Rove had also said this: Obama has become “the first president in history to win a second term with a smaller percentage of the vote” than four years before.
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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electi...hy-Romney-lost-Obama-was-suppressing-the-vote
 
dank69

dank69

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Heh, negative advertising is now "suppressing the vote" to a Republican just like listing the Republican candidate's voting record is now "negative advertising."
 
Don Vito Corleone

Don Vito Corleone

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In fairness Rove has to say something to placate all the people who gave him hundreds of millions of dollars for his SuperPAC only to find coal in their stockings on Christmas morning.

I am not sure that if I were Rove I would be making so much of Obama's drop in popular vote, given that Obama still handily stomped Bush's electoral vote totals in either of his elections, and roughly matched Bush's popular vote percentage in his re-election bid. More to the point, Obama managed to be easily re-elected despite a) his relative unpopularity; b) Rove's having coordinated a massive, massively expensive effort to unseat him; and c) Rove's having predicted a Romney victory based on his own purportedly bulletproof methodology. If I were a Republican, the statistic that would make me nervous is that the Republicans have lost the popular vote in 5 of the 6 elections since the end of the Cold War.
 
SheHateMe

SheHateMe

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Obama had a campaign against Romney? I thought Romney had a campaign against Romney..
 
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finglobes

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Romeny suppressed his own vote by trying to win without being strong. His team of consultants were partners from Bush and Gore staffs (who would expect that to work?). Nature abhors a vacuum and Obama's people filled Romney's with trash.

The GOP was hostile to tea parties and Ron Paul people. They were amped up to stop spending and they led to 2010 blowout

Then weepy cheeks Boehner refused to stand against the spending limit. He was a sheep in sheep's clothing as Churchill said.

Talk radio guys like Hannity and Limbaugh were predicting a blowout. The Friday before election Hannity had a guy on who was an "expert" on Ohio. With great fanfare they announced Romeny would take Ohio no problem. Talk about suppressing the vote

Oh and Jersey Fats did his part giving Obama a political BJ for hooking Springsteen up with brubser on the phone.

Next time GOP dont get a keynote speaker from a blue state because when the heat goes up they run to RINOville.
 
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Charles Kozierok

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dank69 said:
Heh, negative advertising is now "suppressing the vote" to a Republican just like listing the Republican candidate's voting record is now "negative advertising."
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I've heard it before. Unfortunately the two uses of the word are very different.

Karl "Billion Dollar SuperPACs running Obama Scare Ads" Rove is of course the last one to be making this complaint.
 
1prophet

1prophet

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You put up a glorified used car salesman for your candidate, a person no one really trusted back in the 2008 primaries and justly so, but somehow putting him in the ring for the 2012 election made him the next best thing to sliced bread.:D
 
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MooseNSquirrel

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And Limbaugh thinks its because 3 million Republicans didn't vote.

If only they had put forth a TRUE CONSERVATIVE (tm) then the Communists would have lost.

"What would be the reason that three million voters didn't show up? Let's go through the possibilities. It could be that there are a number... We've talked to 'em. We've had 'em call. We got 'em, in fact, on hold. A number of Republicans are tired of moderate nominees. They've sent the Republican Party money for years and said, "To hell with it. If you're gonna eschew conservatism, I'm not giving you any money, and I'm not voting for you."

So the only Moderate Conservative in the race (Obama) won, yet had the party of Plutocrats fielded an even more right wing candidate then that candidate would have won by a landslide.

Savvy?
 
Gardener

Gardener

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Republican tactic of attacking your opponent where you, yourself are weakest.

Anyone know how much Rove pocketed during this campaign? He had to be skimming 2-3% on the 100's of millions he raised.
 
trenchfoot

trenchfoot

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Don Vito Corleone said:
In fairness Rove has to say something to placate all the people who gave him hundreds of millions of dollars for his SuperPAC only to find coal in their stockings on Christmas morning.

I am not sure that if I were Rove I would be making so much of Obama's drop in popular vote, given that Obama still handily stomped Bush's electoral vote totals in either of his elections, and roughly matched Bush's popular vote percentage in his re-election bid. More to the point, Obama managed to be easily re-elected despite a) his relative unpopularity; b) Rove's having coordinated a massive, massively expensive effort to unseat him; and c) Rove's having predicted a Romney victory based on his own purportedly bulletproof methodology. If I were a Republican, the statistic that would make me nervous is that the Republicans have lost the popular vote in 5 of the 6 elections since the end of the Cold War.
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A trend as inevitable as the rise and fall of the tides. The Repubs are alienating themselves further and further away from mainstream America, as they keep insisting that their view is mainstream America and want to enforce that view via legislative and judicial activism. The world around them is changing and they are refusing to come along for the ride, or at the least, they are begrudedly trailing along kicking and screaming threats of secession, open revolt and "setting things right" with armed insurrection.
 
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Incorruptible

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obama did suppress the vote that pos, he made false claims that romney was waging a war on women and would take away their rights
 
zinfamous

zinfamous

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Rove calling foul over the campaign trying to make Romney unlikeable?

:hmm:

I suppose he could ask McCain about that from 2000...
 
MomentsofSanity

MomentsofSanity

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Incorruptible said:
obama did suppress the vote that pos, he made false claims that romney was waging a war on women and would take away their rights
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I used to occasionally point out what I perceived to be your complete idiocy. But now I just kind of feel bad for you. You simply seem to lack the ability to think critically and rationally for yourself. I can't imagine life so devoid of independent thinking.

If it helps you make a great parrot though. Have a cracker.
 
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DaveSimmons

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If we're going to redefine the English language, I hereby declare that Rove's Super-PAC engaged in "child pornography", "bestiality" and "cromulent Punffinsim". By which I mean negative advertising.

Newspeak is Goodspeak!
 
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uclaLabrat

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MomentsofSanity said:
I used to occasionally point out what I perceived to be your complete idiocy. But now I just kind of feel bad for you. You simply seem to lack the ability to think critically and rationally for yourself. I can't imagine life so devoid of independent thinking.

If it helps you make a great parrot though. Have a cracker.
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If you give him a handout he'll become dependent on it and never be able to ween himself off!
 
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