Karl Rove Ignores Congressoinal Subpoena

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Fern
Media bias in the run up to the war?

Bias for/against who?

The Dems themselves were railing against Saddam during that period. H3ll, so was the previous admin (Dem), in fact they made regime change in Iraq official policy.

Fern

Dems, Reps, pretty much everyone. After 9/11 I think most of the country wanted blood. I know I did. I wanted whoever was responsible to pay and based on what I saw/read I was for the Iraq war. Then more info came out and I found they weren't responsible.

The dems were against Saddam, so they supported forcing the return of UN inspectors, but not war if it could be avoided.

The repubs were against Saddam, so they promised dems not to go to war except as a last resort if the inspectors were not allowed back, and then lied and went to war.

 

[Lemon law]

Common Courtesy is 100% wrong in stating---The moment Rove shows up for Congress, he is in a can not win situation.

And look how quickly we forget the Proof. As we can recall, Monica Goodling was placed in the same situation when she testified. She told what she knew which was damn near zero and she won by any account. She cleared her name, end of story.

Now Rove is in exactly that same situation, if he tells the truth, the truth sets him free.

However if Rove is guilty as sin, why are you bleeding heart GWB supporters rooting for the bad guy and cheering for the crooks who subvert our constitution. For shame, shame on you all. You can go with God or work for the devil, the choice is yours.

 

[EagleKeeper]

They were not gunning for Monica - she was just a unwitting pawn awed by power.

Rove, they are gunning for.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
They were not gunning for Monica - she was just a unwitting pawn awed by power.

Rove, they are gunning for.

Who the hell do they think they are gunning for people who may be guilty of crimes?

Unbelievable how the people who complain about criminals havig too many rights think that this potential criminal has the right not to be investigated.

Stop squealing about proper investigation, righties, or it's time for some bacon. Sheesh.

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
They were not gunning for Monica - she was just a unwitting pawn awed by power.

Rove, they are gunning for.

Who the hell do they think they are gunning for people who may be guilty of crimes?

Unbelievable how the people who complain about criminals havig too many rights think that this potential criminal has the right not to be investigated.

Stop squealing about proper investigation, righties, or it's time for some bacon. Sheesh.

I bolded the part on why Rove it not showing up. In your BDS fueled mind, this is a proper investigation. In the real world, this is a witch hunt just like when Clinton lied and we had to find out he lied about cheating on his wife and perjuring himself. Either way, I could care less, and these F'ing inept Congresspeople who are wasting their time on this sh1t, while huge national issues go untouched, is just more reason to machine gone the whole F'ing Congress. I'll start with my state's people so as to be impartial, then move on down the line... Pardon first please..

Chuck

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
They were not gunning for Monica - she was just a unwitting pawn awed by power.

Rove, they are gunning for.

Who the hell do they think they are gunning for people who may be guilty of crimes?

Unbelievable how the people who complain about criminals havig too many rights think that this potential criminal has the right not to be investigated.

Stop squealing about proper investigation, righties, or it's time for some bacon. Sheesh.

I bolded the part on why Rove it not showing up. In your BDS fueled mind, this is a proper investigation. In the real world, this is a witch hunt just like when Clinton lied and we had to find out he lied about cheating on his wife and perjuring himself. Either way, I could care less, and these F'ing inept Congresspeople who are wasting their time on this sh1t, while huge national issues go untouched, is just more reason to machine gone the whole F'ing Congress. I'll start with my state's people so as to be impartial, then move on down the line... Pardon first please..

Chuck

The Republicans were on a witch hunt; this is a proper investigation into the wrongful corruption of the justice department to use it to steal elections.

You're the one with BDS, irrationally evading any accountability for the huge list of his wrongdoing.

 

[Lemon law]

Excuse me Chucky2, who elected you God or believes in your advance assertion that this MUST BE A WITCH HUNT?

I think we should allow our congress to use its constitutionally granted power to investigate, then if its later shown to be a witch hunt like whitewater, then I will agree with you.

Until we know which, you should STFU and let the results render its own verdict.

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
They were not gunning for Monica - she was just a unwitting pawn awed by power.

Rove, they are gunning for.

Who the hell do they think they are gunning for people who may be guilty of crimes?

Unbelievable how the people who complain about criminals havig too many rights think that this potential criminal has the right not to be investigated.

Stop squealing about proper investigation, righties, or it's time for some bacon. Sheesh.

I bolded the part on why Rove it not showing up. In your BDS fueled mind, this is a proper investigation. In the real world, this is a witch hunt just like when Clinton lied and we had to find out he lied about cheating on his wife and perjuring himself. Either way, I could care less, and these F'ing inept Congresspeople who are wasting their time on this sh1t, while huge national issues go untouched, is just more reason to machine gone the whole F'ing Congress. I'll start with my state's people so as to be impartial, then move on down the line... Pardon first please..

Chuck

The Republicans were on a witch hunt; this is allegedly proper investigation into the allegedly wrongful corruption of the justice department to use it to allegedly steal elections.

You're the one with allegedly (and quite the opposite, but nice try) BDS, allegedly irrationally evading any accountability for the allegedly huge list of his alleged wrongdoing.

Wow...when it's all corrected for accuracy, it reads much more different Craig...funny huh?

Chuck

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Excuse me Chucky2, who elected you God or believes in your advance assertion that this MUST BE A WITCH HUNT?

This is Washington, and these are politicians from the opposite party during an election year. The real question is why would you think this wouldn't ever be a witch hunt?

I think we should allow our congress to use its constitutionally granted power to investigate

Of course you do, because you have BDS, and this is investigating someone from Bush's inner circle. If this were a Democrat, you'd be singing from the heavens on why this is a witch hunt and a complete waste of valuable time.

, then if its later shown to be a witch hunt like whitewater, then I will agree with you.

Later, after they've wasted their valuable time on a witch hunt while huge national issues go untouched. Good management of time there...please, don't go into Management, we need companies here to do good, not go out of business.

Until we know which, you should STFU and let the results render its own verdict.

The results are Congress will do nothing because it will incriminate itself, all while wasting their valuable time they should be spending on productive issues, not BDS fueled ones.

I know, I know...I'm crazy because I want my Congress to tackle actual issues that are important now at a National level, then when they've actually got all those solved, they can come back to this pissant sh1t. You two genious's though, you want Congress to p1ss away their time on this because it fits with your BDS agenda, only to have the real issues that need time spent languish.

Good call there Captain's...

F'ing retards, god...

Chuck

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

The Republicans were on a witch hunt; this is allegedly proper investigation into the allegedly wrongful corruption of the justice department to use it to allegedly steal elections.

You're the one with allegedly (and quite the opposite, but nice try) BDS, allegedly irrationally evading any accountability for the allegedly huge list of his alleged wrongdoing.

Wow...when it's all corrected for accuracy, it reads much more different Craig...funny huh?

Chuck

You didn't correct it. It is an appropriate investigation into the alleged wrongdoing. Alleged wrongdoing - they have plenty of evidence, including some confessions from both the US Attorneys and officials involved, e.g., Monica Goodling, who had immunity for her incriminating testimony - is the basis for which investigations are done.

His huge list of wrongdoing isn't alleged, either, it's well documented and established, not speculative. And your evasiveness for accountability for him isn't alleged, either.

So, you had one ok 'alleged', about exactly the wrongdoing of Rove - which is what the hearing is to investigate.

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
They were not gunning for Monica - she was just a unwitting pawn awed by power.

Rove, they are gunning for.

Who the hell do they think they are gunning for people who may be guilty of crimes?

Unbelievable how the people who complain about criminals havig too many rights think that this potential criminal has the right not to be investigated.

Stop squealing about proper investigation, righties, or it's time for some bacon. Sheesh.

I bolded the part on why Rove it not showing up. In your BDS fueled mind, this is a proper investigation. In the real world, this is a witch hunt just like when Clinton lied and we had to find out he lied about cheating on his wife and perjuring himself. Either way, I could care less, and these F'ing inept Congresspeople who are wasting their time on this sh1t, while huge national issues go untouched, is just more reason to machine gone the whole F'ing Congress. I'll start with my state's people so as to be impartial, then move on down the line... Pardon first please..

Chuck

The Republicans were on a witch hunt; this is allegedly proper investigation into the allegedly wrongful corruption of the justice department to use it to allegedly steal elections.

You're the one with allegedly (and quite the opposite, but nice try) BDS, allegedly irrationally evading any accountability for the allegedly huge list of his alleged wrongdoing.

Wow...when it's all corrected for accuracy, it reads much more different Craig...funny huh?

Chuck

Rove has been so demonized in the media already it's hopeless to get liberals to be fair and honest about this. It's a witchhunt, it's a lot of unproven allegations, but that doesn't stop the left from knowing for a fact he's guilty without any... facts.

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

The Republicans were on a witch hunt; this is allegedly proper investigation into the allegedly wrongful corruption of the justice department to use it to allegedly steal elections.

You're the one with allegedly (and quite the opposite, but nice try) BDS, allegedly irrationally evading any accountability for the allegedly huge list of his alleged wrongdoing.

Wow...when it's all corrected for accuracy, it reads much more different Craig...funny huh?

Chuck

You didn't correct it. It is an appropriate investigation into the alleged wrongdoing. Alleged wrongdoing - they have plenty of evidence, including some confessions from both the US Attorneys and officials involved, e.g., Monica Goodling, who had immunity for her incriminating testimony - is the basis for which investigations are done.

His huge list of wrongdoing isn't alleged, either, it's well documented and established, not speculative. And your evasiveness for accountability for him isn't alleged, either.

So, you had one ok 'alleged', about exactly the wrongdoing of Rove - which is what the hearing is to investigate.

Go Go Captain BDS! Go BDS the world!

After you've done and wasted all that time on your BDS trip, tell us what you've done!!! (Other than waste your time doing that when you could be doing actual productive things...)

Congress is exactly the way it is because of you two...Exactly.

Just a Pardon please, that's all I need...I'll buy the machine gun and bullets myself...I won't ask for anything else this Christmas, promise...

Chuck

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Excuse me Chucky2, who elected you God or believes in your advance assertion that this MUST BE A WITCH HUNT?

This is Washington, and these are politicians from the opposite party during an election year. The real question is why would you think this wouldn't ever be a witch hunt?

Because people who, unlike you, get informed undertand the strong evidence making this a legitimate investigation, unlike the crap investigations you're likely an apologist for.

I think we should allow our congress to use its constitutionally granted power to investigate

Of course you do, because you have BDS, and this is investigating someone from Bush's inner circle. If this were a Democrat, you'd be singing from the heavens on why this is a witch hunt and a complete waste of valuable time.

Ya, just like all we democrats are saying the Congressman caught with cash in the freezer shouldn't be investigated. Oh, wait, not one of us said that.

You have the BDS, as I said, where you are declaring the entire administration off-limits for any accountability this year, claiming all investigations are unjustified. Idiocy.

Until we know which, you should STFU and let the results render its own verdict.

The results are Congress will do nothing because it will incriminate itself, all while wasting their valuable time they should be spending on productive issues, not BDS fueled ones.

Congress has a responsibility you don't understand. It's doing its job, you are fighting justice.

I know, I know...I'm crazy because I want my Congress to tackle actual issues that are important now at a National level, then when they've actually got all those solved, they can come back to this pissant sh1t. You two genious's though, you want Congress to p1ss away their time on this because it fits with your BDS agenda, only to have the real issues that need time spent languish.

The corruption of the justice department, using it for sham prosecutions to steal elections for partisan reasons, is far more than enough reason for investigating.

There's no question the issues are 'real'.

Your BDS blinds you to that. No, you prefer 10 year 'investigations' into Cisneros paying a mistress, apparently. You're a lousy American, Chucky.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Rove has been so demonized in the media already it's hopeless to get liberals to be fair and honest about this. It's a witchhunt, it's a lot of unproven allegations, but that doesn't stop the left from knowing for a fact he's guilty without any... facts.

Oh, really?

It's so damn sleazy to throw around 'bias' charges against any investigation.

You sound like the sleazy criminal Tom DeLay.

Your hatred of justice is disgusting.

I'll say, for all I know, Rove will be found innocent of any involvement in the Siegelman case. But they investigate and find out.

Of course, there are still idiots who say Nixon did nothing wrong and was just railroaded by the democrats, too. Get a clue Duwelon, go look at the evidence.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

The Republicans were on a witch hunt; this is allegedly proper investigation into the allegedly wrongful corruption of the justice department to use it to allegedly steal elections.

You're the one with allegedly (and quite the opposite, but nice try) BDS, allegedly irrationally evading any accountability for the allegedly huge list of his alleged wrongdoing.

Wow...when it's all corrected for accuracy, it reads much more different Craig...funny huh?

Chuck

You didn't correct it. It is an appropriate investigation into the alleged wrongdoing. Alleged wrongdoing - they have plenty of evidence, including some confessions from both the US Attorneys and officials involved, e.g., Monica Goodling, who had immunity for her incriminating testimony - is the basis for which investigations are done.

His huge list of wrongdoing isn't alleged, either, it's well documented and established, not speculative. And your evasiveness for accountability for him isn't alleged, either.

So, you had one ok 'alleged', about exactly the wrongdoing of Rove - which is what the hearing is to investigate.

Go Go Captain BDS! Go BDS the world!

After you've done and wasted all that time on your BDS trip, tell us what you've done!!! (Other than waste your time doing that when you could be doing actual productive things...)

Congress is exactly the way it is because of you two...Exactly.

Just a Pardon please, that's all I need...I'll buy the machine gun and bullets myself...I won't ask for anything else this Christmas, promise...

Chuck

If you mean it is the way it is that it's investigating the things it should instead of being the corrupt part of the coverup it was under Republicans, I'm proud to be part of that.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Craig234
The corruption of the justice department, using it for sham prosecutions to steal elections for partisan reasons, is far more than enough reason for investigating.

Please identify what sham prosecutions to steal elections?

I always thought elections were won at the ballot box.😕

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Excuse me Chucky2, who elected you God or believes in your advance assertion that this MUST BE A WITCH HUNT?

This is Washington, and these are politicians from the opposite party during an election year. The real question is why would you think this wouldn't ever be a witch hunt?

Because people who, unlike you, get informed undertand the strong evidence making this a legitimate investigation, unlike the crap investigations you're likely an apologist for.

I think we should allow our congress to use its constitutionally granted power to investigate

Of course you do, because you have BDS, and this is investigating someone from Bush's inner circle. If this were a Democrat, you'd be singing from the heavens on why this is a witch hunt and a complete waste of valuable time.

Ya, just like all we democrats are saying the Congressman caught with cash in the freezer shouldn't be investigated. Oh, wait, not one of us said that.

You have the BDS, as I said, where you are declaring the entire administration off-limits for any accountability this year, claiming all investigations are unjustified. Idiocy.

Until we know which, you should STFU and let the results render its own verdict.

The results are Congress will do nothing because it will incriminate itself, all while wasting their valuable time they should be spending on productive issues, not BDS fueled ones.

Congress has a responsibility you don't understand. It's doing its job, you are fighting justice.

I know, I know...I'm crazy because I want my Congress to tackle actual issues that are important now at a National level, then when they've actually got all those solved, they can come back to this pissant sh1t. You two genious's though, you want Congress to p1ss away their time on this because it fits with your BDS agenda, only to have the real issues that need time spent languish.

The corruption of the justice department, using it for sham prosecutions to steal elections for partisan reasons, is far more than enough reason for investigating.

There's no question the issues are 'real'.

Your BDS blinds you to that. No, you prefer 10 year 'investigations' into Cisneros paying a mistress, apparently. You're a lousy American, Chucky.

Blah Blah Blah.

Here's what I prefer Craig:

1.) Solve the Illegal Immigration problem.
2.) Solve the health care situation in this country.
3.) Solve the energy problems in this country.
4.) Solve the tax code in this country.
5.) Solve the public justice system in this country.
6.) Solve our F'ing moronic drug war in this country.
7.) Solve how we fight the GWoT - meaning, either actually fight to win or just pack it up and come home.
8.) Solve the election process in this country.

Craig, when all of these F'ing issues are solved - as in, actually implemented and being carried out - only then should any one F'ing inept member of our Government be doing anything else.

Many/Most of these issues have sat, mostly untouched, for decades now. If we're the Board of Directors at a multi-$B company, and our Government is Upper and Senior Leadership...and the top F'ing 8+ projects at the company have not even been touched to any meaningful degree, while p1ssant projects have been given time and time again attention...would you at any F'ing sane moment actually not think about strangling your Leadership with your bare hands for its utter failure?!?!!?!?

I'm not saying they shouldn't investigate Rove, Cheney, Bush, or whoever the F else they want. My point here is that they have far far far and away better things to be doing with their time.

And No, Congress cannot do multiple things at once. They've had decades now for the above 8 and still don't have solutions in place. So don't sit here and try and rationalize to me how they can do Rove and the above stuff at the same time - They simply can't.

Has anyone here managed at a higher than peon level and actually been accountable for deliverables??? Anyone??????

Chuck

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Rove has been so demonized in the media already it's hopeless to get liberals to be fair and honest about this. It's a witchhunt, it's a lot of unproven allegations, but that doesn't stop the left from knowing for a fact he's guilty without any... facts.

Oh, really?

It's so damn sleazy to throw around 'bias' charges against any investigation.

You sound like the sleazy criminal Tom DeLay.

Your hatred of justice is disgusting.

I'll say, for all I know, Rove will be found innocent of any involvement in the Siegelman case. But they investigate and find out.

Of course, there are still idiots who say Nixon did nothing wrong and was just railroaded by the democrats, too. Get a clue Duwelon, go look at the evidence.

That's a lot of... well whatever that is that you just spewed. It's hard to know what to respond to in your post as you don't really respond to mine but to your assertion that I hate justice, imagine a redneck with a really, really strong sheep fetish yelling "YOU DON'T KNOW ME!" on the Jerry Springer show.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Craig234
The corruption of the justice department, using it for sham prosecutions to steal elections for partisan reasons, is far more than enough reason for investigating.

Please identify what sham prosecutions to steal elections?

I always thought elections were won at the ballot box.😕

Sham prosecutions where the politicical operatives in the administration tell the US Attorney in the region for an election they want to sway their way to go charge the democrat with a crime before the election, to try to influence the voters against the democrat and cost them the election, even though the charges will be dismissed later; the Attorney saying no, there's not evidence to justify doing that; and the political operatives getting rid of the attorney for their unwillingness to perform a corrupt prosecution.

Here's a link to a summary of some examples:

Link to the first summary I googled

If you don't like the source, google the names and you will find many others with the same info.

There were other reasons, too - such as the *successful* prosecution of the incredibly corrupt 'Duke' Cunningham.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: chucky2
Craig, when all of these F'ing issues are solved - as in, actually implemented and being carried out - only then should any one F'ing inept member of our Government be doing anything else.

Many/Most of these issues have sat, mostly untouched, for decades now. If we're the Board of Directors at a multi-$B company, and our Government is Upper and Senior Leadership...and the top F'ing 8+ projects at the company have not even been touched to any meaningful degree, while p1ssant projects have been given time and time again attention...would you at any F'ing sane moment actually not think about strangling your Leadership with your bare hands for its utter failure?!?!!?!?

I'm not saying they shouldn't investigate Rove, Cheney, Bush, or whoever the F else they want. My point here is that they have far far far and away better things to be doing with their time.

And No, Congress cannot do multiple things at once. They've had decades now for the above 8 and still don't have solutions in place. So don't sit here and try and rationalize to me how they can do Rove and the above stuff at the same time - They simply can't.

Has anyone here managed at a higher than peon level and actually been accountable for deliverables??? Anyone??????

Chuck

Maybe you're the one who doesn't understand that the progress on the other issues you want isn't happening for reasons other than spending time prosecuting Rove.

That whatever happens on those issues will happen regardless of whether they fulfill their responsibility to investigate Rove, or let him escape without investigation.

Seems to me you're the one who has the misguided idea about how things are working, by connecting the Rove investigation with the other issues.

Don't bother replying as far as I'm concerned, your 'blah blah' response shows that I'm trying to teach a pig to sing here.

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2
Blah Blah Blah.

Here's what I prefer Craig:

1.) Solve the Illegal Immigration problem.
2.) Solve the health care situation in this country.
3.) Solve the energy problems in this country.
4.) Solve the tax code in this country.
5.) Solve the public justice system in this country.
6.) Solve our F'ing moronic drug war in this country.
7.) Solve how we fight the GWoT - meaning, either actually fight to win or just pack it up and come home.
8.) Solve the election process in this country.

Craig, when all of these F'ing issues are solved - as in, actually implemented and being carried out - only then should any one F'ing inept member of our Government be doing anything else.

Many/Most of these issues have sat, mostly untouched, for decades now. If we're the Board of Directors at a multi-$B company, and our Government is Upper and Senior Leadership...and the top F'ing 8+ projects at the company have not even been touched to any meaningful degree, while p1ssant projects have been given time and time again attention...would you at any F'ing sane moment actually not think about strangling your Leadership with your bare hands for its utter failure?!?!!?!?

I'm not saying they shouldn't investigate Rove, Cheney, Bush, or whoever the F else they want. My point here is that they have far far far and away better things to be doing with their time.

And No, Congress cannot do multiple things at once. They've had decades now for the above 8 and still don't have solutions in place. So don't sit here and try and rationalize to me how they can do Rove and the above stuff at the same time - They simply can't.

Has anyone here managed at a higher than peon level and actually been accountable for deliverables??? Anyone??????

Chuck

Maybe you're the one who doesn't understand that the progress on the other issues you want isn't happening for reasons other than spending time prosecuting Rove.

That whatever happens on those issues will happen regardless of whether they fulfill their responsibility to investigate Rove, or let him escape without investigation.

Seems to me you're the one who has the misguided idea about how things are working, by connecting the Rove investigation with the other issues.

Don't bother replying as far as I'm concerned, your 'blah blah' response shows that I'm trying to teach a pig to sing here.

No Craig, I understand perfectly why progress hasn't been made on all these other issues. And that's because it's not a burning priority for the members of Congress.

Since you're on AnandTech, let me try and use an IT analogy that maybe you'll be able to follow:

You have a Developer lets say who has multiple projects on his/her plate, and each project has a due date for the Developer deliverables and also a priority to the company. This Developer is also in charge of his/her services that he/she maintains. Lets name the Developer, oh, say Congress.

What you're advocating is our Devel...er, Congress, spend time reading up on say a new programming language (important for Congress to be sure), while the projects they have deliverables for slip, slip, slip some more, and the services they have are in Outage stage.

That's exactly what you are advocating.

I'm advocating the Devel...sorry, I mean Congress first get back on track with all their project deliverables, and Oh, btw, maybe get the services that are down back up and running (you know, just the minorly important things here)...then our misguided Congress can spend all the F'ing time he/she wants reading whatever programming language he/she wants.

I'll take a bunch of people doing it my way, and pair them up against people doing it your way anytime...your folks will be debating the new flavor of their Starbucks coffee's and my folks will have their F'ing sh1t done.

What do you do that lets you be so incompetant???????

Chuck

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2
Craig, when all of these F'ing issues are solved - as in, actually implemented and being carried out - only then should any one F'ing inept member of our Government be doing anything else.

Many/Most of these issues have sat, mostly untouched, for decades now. If we're the Board of Directors at a multi-$B company, and our Government is Upper and Senior Leadership...and the top F'ing 8+ projects at the company have not even been touched to any meaningful degree, while p1ssant projects have been given time and time again attention...would you at any F'ing sane moment actually not think about strangling your Leadership with your bare hands for its utter failure?!?!!?!?

I'm not saying they shouldn't investigate Rove, Cheney, Bush, or whoever the F else they want. My point here is that they have far far far and away better things to be doing with their time.

And No, Congress cannot do multiple things at once. They've had decades now for the above 8 and still don't have solutions in place. So don't sit here and try and rationalize to me how they can do Rove and the above stuff at the same time - They simply can't.

Has anyone here managed at a higher than peon level and actually been accountable for deliverables??? Anyone??????

Chuck

Maybe you're the one who doesn't understand that the progress on the other issues you want isn't happening for reasons other than spending time prosecuting Rove.

That whatever happens on those issues will happen regardless of whether they fulfill their responsibility to investigate Rove, or let him escape without investigation.

Seems to me you're the one who has the misguided idea about how things are working, by connecting the Rove investigation with the other issues.

Don't bother replying as far as I'm concerned, your 'blah blah' response shows that I'm trying to teach a pig to sing here.

I loled and shook my head when I read the bold part of your response.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2
Blah Blah Blah.

Here's what I prefer Craig:

1.) Solve the Illegal Immigration problem.
2.) Solve the health care situation in this country.
3.) Solve the energy problems in this country.
4.) Solve the tax code in this country.
5.) Solve the public justice system in this country.
6.) Solve our F'ing moronic drug war in this country.
7.) Solve how we fight the GWoT - meaning, either actually fight to win or just pack it up and come home.
8.) Solve the election process in this country.

Craig, when all of these F'ing issues are solved - as in, actually implemented and being carried out - only then should any one F'ing inept member of our Government be doing anything else.

Many/Most of these issues have sat, mostly untouched, for decades now. If we're the Board of Directors at a multi-$B company, and our Government is Upper and Senior Leadership...and the top F'ing 8+ projects at the company have not even been touched to any meaningful degree, while p1ssant projects have been given time and time again attention...would you at any F'ing sane moment actually not think about strangling your Leadership with your bare hands for its utter failure?!?!!?!?

I'm not saying they shouldn't investigate Rove, Cheney, Bush, or whoever the F else they want. My point here is that they have far far far and away better things to be doing with their time.

And No, Congress cannot do multiple things at once. They've had decades now for the above 8 and still don't have solutions in place. So don't sit here and try and rationalize to me how they can do Rove and the above stuff at the same time - They simply can't.

Has anyone here managed at a higher than peon level and actually been accountable for deliverables??? Anyone??????

Chuck

Maybe you're the one who doesn't understand that the progress on the other issues you want isn't happening for reasons other than spending time prosecuting Rove.

That whatever happens on those issues will happen regardless of whether they fulfill their responsibility to investigate Rove, or let him escape without investigation.

Seems to me you're the one who has the misguided idea about how things are working, by connecting the Rove investigation with the other issues.

Don't bother replying as far as I'm concerned, your 'blah blah' response shows that I'm trying to teach a pig to sing here.

No Craig, I understand perfectly why progress hasn't been made on all these other issues. And that's because it's not a burning priority for the members of Congress.

Since you're on AnandTech, let me try and use an IT analogy that maybe you'll be able to follow:

You have a Developer lets say who has multiple projects on his/her plate, and each project has a due date for the Developer deliverables and also a priority to the company. This Developer is also in charge of his/her services that he/she maintains. Lets name the Developer, oh, say Congress.

What you're advocating is our Devel...er, Congress, spend time reading up on say a new programming language (important for Congress to be sure), while the projects they have deliverables for slip, slip, slip some more, and the services they have are in Outage stage.

That's exactly what you are advocating.

I'm advocating the Devel...sorry, I mean Congress first get back on track with all their project deliverables, and Oh, btw, maybe get the services that are down back up and running (you know, just the minorly important things here)...then our misguided Congress can spend all the F'ing time he/she wants reading whatever programming language he/she wants.

I'll take a bunch of people doing it my way, and pair them up against people doing it your way anytime...your folks will be debating the new flavor of their Starbucks coffee's and my folks will have their F'ing sh1t done.

What do you do that lets you be so incompetant???????

Chuck

The ass level of your post exceeds the maximum for getting a response. You know it, but hey, it lets you off being torn apart yet again.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Craig234

That whatever happens on those issues will happen regardless of whether they fulfill their responsibility to investigate Rove, or let him escape without investigation.

I loled and shook my head when I read the bold part of your response.

I'm sorry you're so confused that the phrase 'escaping investigation' makes you laugh. Whether he's innocent or guilty, the phrase is appropriate.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
They were not gunning for Monica - she was just a unwitting pawn awed by power.

Rove, they are gunning for.

Who the hell do they think they are gunning for people who may be guilty of crimes?

Unbelievable how the people who complain about criminals havig too many rights think that this potential criminal has the right not to be investigated.

Stop squealing about proper investigation, righties, or it's time for some bacon. Sheesh.

I bolded the part on why Rove it not showing up. In your BDS fueled mind, this is a proper investigation. In the real world, this is a witch hunt just like when Clinton lied and we had to find out he lied about cheating on his wife and perjuring himself. Either way, I could care less, and these F'ing inept Congresspeople who are wasting their time on this sh1t, while huge national issues go untouched, is just more reason to machine gone the whole F'ing Congress. I'll start with my state's people so as to be impartial, then move on down the line... Pardon first please..

Chuck

The Republicans were on a witch hunt; this is allegedly proper investigation into the allegedly wrongful corruption of the justice department to use it to allegedly steal elections.

You're the one with allegedly (and quite the opposite, but nice try) BDS, allegedly irrationally evading any accountability for the allegedly huge list of his alleged wrongdoing.

Wow...when it's all corrected for accuracy, it reads much more different Craig...funny huh?

Chuck

Dude, you realize if something is alleged... that's the whole reason to investigate, right?