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Karate Tournament Pic

My goodness. Thats a 1.69MB file you got there. Might want to resize 😉

BTW: Congrats to her.
 
I got my Black Belt in Karate, but I stopped going because the whole idea behind it sucked. We learned different kicks, but we couldn't use them when we sparred? That and I had a liking to replicating Street Fighter moves while sparring 🙂
-- mrcodedude
 
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
I got my Black Belt in Karate, but I stopped going because the whole idea behind it sucked. We learned different kicks, but we couldn't use them when we sparred? That and I had a liking to replicating Street Fighter moves while sparring 🙂
-- mrcodedude
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I fyou want some kickn' try out for Taekwando. You could sure kick the hell out of your opponent.
 
It's great that you are proud of your daughter but let me tell you now what you'll learn down the road...

1. Karate sucks ass - Real macho style that doesn't really excel at anything.
2. Forms should be practiced in the dojo, and should not be included in tournaments to win trophies. The ONLY thing you should get a trophy for is fighting. That's it.

Here are the fighting styles that are worth getting involved in. They are all good but I'll rank them from what I'd take first to what I'd learn last. They are ALL great though.

1. Jujitsu/Judo
2. Taekwando
3. ThaiBoxing
4. Boxing
5. KungFu

If your daughter is happy she won a trophie for doing something pretty, that is fine. But don't equate a gold medal in forms to being able to defend yourself. It just doesn't work that way.
 
Nice way to rain on a guy's parade, Jack!

He didn't claim his daughter was the next model for a Street Fighter game, he said his daughter did well in a tournament. In an age when most kids her age are sitting on their asses playing video games and chowing down Big Macs, I think Moose has every right to be proud of his daughter.

(Not to mention that simply HAVING a daughter is reason enough to be a proud father!)

Way to go, Moose! Keep a sharp eye on that kid next to her in the pic and make sure he behaves himself around her.
 
Jack - Karate is a way for her to build self esteem and confidence. A person knowledgeable in karate like his daughter is almost always better than a person knowledgeable in nothing. And he never said anything about how a trophy = self defense. He's just showing off pictures of his daughter because he's proud of her. Way to assume his daughter's motives
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Congrats Moose on your daughter's accomplishments.

Oh to those commenting on her martial arts, c'mon its not like she going to try for the UFC or Pride later. If she get more into it, she will look in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu/Thai boxing etc later on.
 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
It's great that you are proud of your daughter but let me tell you now what you'll learn down the road...

1. Karate sucks ass - Real macho style that doesn't really excel at anything.
2. Forms should be practiced in the dojo, and should not be included in tournaments to win trophies. The ONLY thing you should get a trophy for is fighting. That's it.

Here are the fighting styles that are worth getting involved in. They are all good but I'll rank them from what I'd take first to what I'd learn last. They are ALL great though.

1. Jujitsu/Judo
2. Taekwando
3. ThaiBoxing
4. Boxing
5. KungFu

If your daughter is happy she won a trophie for doing something pretty, that is fine. But don't equate a gold medal in forms to being able to defend yourself. It just doesn't work that way.
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You missed the part about the gifted 13 year old daughter spending a week @ Texas A&M Law School camp, after a week as 2nd chair bassoon @ a state level Band Camp & a Taekwando tourney in-between.

Now my youngest daughter is an animal, she likes fighting, I see many trophies in her future😀



 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
It's great that you are proud of your daughter but let me tell you now what you'll learn down the road...

1. Karate sucks ass - Real macho style that doesn't really excel at anything.
2. Forms should be practiced in the dojo, and should not be included in tournaments to win trophies. The ONLY thing you should get a trophy for is fighting. That's it.

Here are the fighting styles that are worth getting involved in. They are all good but I'll rank them from what I'd take first to what I'd learn last. They are ALL great though.

1. Jujitsu/Judo
2. Taekwando
3. ThaiBoxing
4. Boxing
5. KungFu

If your daughter is happy she won a trophie for doing something pretty, that is fine. But don't equate a gold medal in forms to being able to defend yourself. It just doesn't work that way.
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The fact that you rank TKD in there shows how little you really know.
 
Listen guys, I didn't intend for my post to slam the guy. I knew exactly why he posted his daughter's pic. He's VERY proud of her. Which is great. But I've seen A LOT of dads at tournaments VERY proud of their daughter and thinking to themselves, "my daughter can really defend herself now. She won blah, blah, blah place at the tournament." And that is where the problem is. You start getting a FALSE sense of confidence. I'm trying to help the guy out, but I guess I'm not good at the finesse approach. MOST dads don't put their daughters into martial arts (most of time they go straight to Karate because there happens to be a school down the street) not because they want them to win tournaments, but to learn self-defense and a long with that comes confidense. But IMO, the only thing she'll get is a false sense of confidense with Karate. If you want me to be nice and clap my hands for her I will, but when she REALLY needs to defend herself, she most likely won't be able to. I know all a father wants is for his daughter to be safe, and that's all I'm trying to do, keep his daughter safe. I speak from experience, not just out of my ass. I've been taking martial arts since I was 12 (I'm now 31) and I started off with Karate. I've also taken Jujitsu, Taekwando, Taiboxing, and Boxing. I loved all of them EXCEPT Karate. It just didn't have anything to offer. I would HIGHLY recommend Jujitsu if your main goal is for your daughter to be able to defend herself in a REAL world situation.

The one good thing your daughter got was a sense of accomplishment, and that is good.

I'm sorry I'm a little rash, but I only have good intentions. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: JackBurton
It's great that you are proud of your daughter but let me tell you now what you'll learn down the road...

1. Karate sucks ass - Real macho style that doesn't really excel at anything.
2. Forms should be practiced in the dojo, and should not be included in tournaments to win trophies. The ONLY thing you should get a trophy for is fighting. That's it.

Here are the fighting styles that are worth getting involved in. They are all good but I'll rank them from what I'd take first to what I'd learn last. They are ALL great though.

1. Jujitsu/Judo
2. Taekwando
3. ThaiBoxing
4. Boxing
5. KungFu

If your daughter is happy she won a trophie for doing something pretty, that is fine. But don't equate a gold medal in forms to being able to defend yourself. It just doesn't work that way.
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The fact that you rank TKD in there shows how little you really know.
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The fact that you can't see what it offers shows how little you know.

 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: JackBurton
It's great that you are proud of your daughter but let me tell you now what you'll learn down the road...

1. Karate sucks ass - Real macho style that doesn't really excel at anything.
2. Forms should be practiced in the dojo, and should not be included in tournaments to win trophies. The ONLY thing you should get a trophy for is fighting. That's it.

Here are the fighting styles that are worth getting involved in. They are all good but I'll rank them from what I'd take first to what I'd learn last. They are ALL great though.

1. Jujitsu/Judo
2. Taekwando
3. ThaiBoxing
4. Boxing
5. KungFu

If your daughter is happy she won a trophie for doing something pretty, that is fine. But don't equate a gold medal in forms to being able to defend yourself. It just doesn't work that way.
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The fact that you rank TKD in there shows how little you really know.
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The fact that you can't see what it offers shows how little you know.
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I took TKD for awhile. It's 90% kicks and 10% everything else. Anybody who's been in a real fight will know that high kicks are practically useless.
 
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: JackBurton
It's great that you are proud of your daughter but let me tell you now what you'll learn down the road...

1. Karate sucks ass - Real macho style that doesn't really excel at anything.
2. Forms should be practiced in the dojo, and should not be included in tournaments to win trophies. The ONLY thing you should get a trophy for is fighting. That's it.

Here are the fighting styles that are worth getting involved in. They are all good but I'll rank them from what I'd take first to what I'd learn last. They are ALL great though.

1. Jujitsu/Judo
2. Taekwando
3. ThaiBoxing
4. Boxing
5. KungFu

If your daughter is happy she won a trophie for doing something pretty, that is fine. But don't equate a gold medal in forms to being able to defend yourself. It just doesn't work that way.
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The fact that you rank TKD in there shows how little you really know.
Click to expand...
The fact that you can't see what it offers shows how little you know.
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I took TKD for awhile. It's 90% kicks and 10% everything else. Anybody who's been in a real fight will know that high kicks are practically useless.
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And that is exactly what you take away from that art, their kicks. You forgot one thing though, speed is king in Taekwando. If you don't have speed, you don't have JACK! No ONE art is perfect, but if you can take the best each has to offer, you will be a very well rounded fighter and VERY tough to beat. That is the problem with Karate, it doesn't have anything to offer. Every art has it's negatives, but the goal is to combine the best out of all of them.

I'll give you an example how this works:
A guy stands up to you in a boxing stance (well somewhat boxing/street fighter stance). You stand in a relaxed one leg back stance (sh!t, I'll even drop my guard to get him to open up). If you where any good at Taekwando you should be able to hit him with a round house to the stomach before he knows what hit him. If he starts moving toward you, you hit him with a back kick. Now here comes the great part. Since you are not committed to one style, if he rushes you, you shoot in (Jujitsu), take him down and choke him out with his own shirt. If he's not wearing a shirt, you've got arm locks and you still have an assortment of chokes to pick from. 😉 One style doesn't fit all, but all together they do nicely. 😉
 
And that is exactly what you take away from that art, their kicks. You forgot one thing though, speed is king in Taekwando. If you don't have speed, you don't have JACK! No ONE art is perfect, but if you can take the best each has to offer, you will be a very well rounded fighter and VERY tough to beat. That is the problem with Karate, it doesn't have anything to offer. Every art has it's negatives, but the goal is to combine the best out of all of them.
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So you're saying that karate doesn't focus on speed in their kicks either? Then you've obviously have no clue about karate. If i had to choose between TKD or karate, it would be karate. You learn how to properly kick, but also how to properly strike and defend yourself. I never said karate was the perfect art, but to think that TKD is better than karate in real life situations? *BOGGLE*
 
Have you taken Taekwando? You sound like a typical Karate fighter. I've already been down your road, I'll let you figure it out for yourself. Karate vs Taekwando is almost like a religious arguement, you'll never win. How about this, you take your Karate and have fun. 😉 Just think though, Taekwando is 90% kicks right? If that is pretty much what they do all the time, don't you think they'd have the best kicks?

NO art is perfect by itself. The goal should be to take the best from the each art, and Karate doesn't play a role in that scheme. What does Karate offer that it's the best at?

Jujitsu/Judo - AWESOME take downs and ground work
Taekwando - the best kicks
Thaiboxing - knees, low leg shot, elbows, and FREAKIN' baseball bat shins
Boxing - awesome movement and great hands
KungFu - well I haven't taken it but it sure does look pretty. 🙂
Karate - ???
 
I've taken both. I'm in a transitional phase atm, deciding on which muay thai school to go to (one that is 20 mins away from me, or one that is 90mins away from me).
 
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