"Kara", PS3 tech demo

[Merad]

Cool tech demo aside, they probably develop her story into a movie or something with a little work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPCw09-DNFg

 

[Soccerman06]

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[BassBomb]

.....they told us HD @ 60fps remember?

 

[Merad]

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Somebody sucks at naming threads. No search results for "Kara", "PS3 Tech Demo" or "Quantic Dream".

 

[Nintendesert]

I'm not sure what is so impressive about this. What specifically is so impressive about it?

 

[Corporate Thug]

really? off topic?

 

[Zeze]

I thoroughly enjoyed the video, but just what is impressive about this graphic-wise and why is this such a special 'tech demo'?

Looks about current gen to me.

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdwHrCT5jr0
not limited by ps3 tech

but yea better facial animation than mass effect 3..stony face made for a freaky scary jessica chabot.

 

[Ichinisan]

I'm not sure what is so impressive about this. What specifically is so impressive about it?

This. My PC with an old GTX 280 can do much, MUCH better.

 

[gorcorps]

I don't get it either.

 

[zebrax2]

I'm also not impressed by this.

 

[Ichinisan]

.....they told us [all games 1080P] HD @ 60fps remember?

Yes. I remember.

 

[CZroe]

So they spent an unrealistic amount of time and effort animating something. So what? Anyone can spend the same amount of effort Pixar and others put into pre-rendered animation on this. Big freakin' deal.

 

[mmntech]

.....they told us HD @ 60fps remember?

In fairness, I think the PS3 does have more 1080p games than the Xbox does. It was a bold statement to make at the time though. Only high end PCs were pushing Full HD at that time.

Kara looks about as good as Mass Effect 2 does on my PC. Mind you I'm sporting dual 6850s here. Not bad for the PS3, but not quite pushing the system either. Especially when you look at the Uncharted series.

 

[gorcorps]

So they spent an unrealistic amount of time and effort animating something. So what? Anyone can spend the same amount of effort Pixar and others put into pre-rendered animation on this. Big freakin' deal.

Well... to be fair it's not pre-rendered.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Well... to be fair it's not pre-rendered.

A render being recorded into a video is the definition of pre rendered, so NOW it is pre rendered

But yeah, its nothing too awesome.

 

[Ichinisan]

Well... to be fair it's not pre-rendered.

He's specifically talking about keyframe animation for facial and skeletal movements, which is done with pre-rendered and real-time animation.

 

[Dankk]

A render being recorded into a video is the definition of pre rendered, so NOW it is pre rendered

Ok, but when they recorded it, it was running in real-time. So while you're only watching a video of it, all those individual frames were being rendered extremely quickly as in a video game, and not over the course of hours.

 

[Sulaco]

I'm not sure what is so impressive about this. What specifically is so impressive about it?

I'm not sure. Someone call RavenSEAL to explain it to us...

 

[Ichinisan]

Ok, but when they recorded it, it was running in real-time. So while you're only watching a video of it, all those individual frames were being rendered extremely quickly as in a video game, and not over the course of hours.

Right, but that's just not impressive compared to what our PCs could already do MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. It's not even much more impressive than the real-time stuff we've already seen in console games like Mass Effect.

 

[Dankk]

Right, but that's just not impressive compared to what our PCs could already do MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. It's not even much more impressive than the real-time stuff we've already seen in console games like Mass Effect.

Yeah, now that I'm home from work and I've actually had an opportunity to watch the video, it's not very impressive at all. The animations are good, but that's about it. Everything else, i.e. model quality, textures, are nothing new, especially for PC gamers who are used to graphics of this detail.

 

[CZroe]

Well... to be fair it's not pre-rendered.

You really think that there is a team of live puppeteers animating every real-time game you play?

I said that they put a comparable amount of effort into animating something that would be used in real-time, but it was still a fixed non-interactive cinematic sequence that has more in common with pre-rendered CG animation. It may even be so thoroughly optimized as to be broken by changing the perspective, such as revealing that the other copies were not full detail and lacked all polygons and textures facing away from the camera. Not that it's so impressive that I think it required that much effort because it really looks like something I would expect from the PS3. *shrug*

Yeah, now that I'm home from work and I've actually had an opportunity to watch the video, it's not very impressive at all. The animations are good, but that's about it. Everything else, i.e. model quality, textures, are nothing new, especially for PC gamers who are used to graphics of this detail.

The one thing I can say is that it doesn't use that same strange low-res jagged shadow shortcut that most modern games seem to use. The shadows and lighting look better than most PS3 games, but that's STILL what I was expecting from this console generation all along.

 

[BD2003]

Are you guys who aren't impressed actually watching the video? That facial animation is incredible, beyond even LA Noire. Impressive that it's running on a PS3 but only to the extent that LA Noire seemed equally like a generational leap.

Can't wait for this to be standard in big budget games. This + next gen rendering tech is going to be frighteningly close to photorealistic.

 

[Ichinisan]

Are you guys who aren't impressed actually watching the video? That facial animation is incredible, beyond even LA Noire. Impressive that it's running on a PS3 but only to the extent that LA Noire seemed equally like a generational leap.

Can't wait for this to be standard in big budget games. This + next gen rendering tech is going to be frighteningly close to photorealistic.

Absolutely not. Just like pre-rendered animation, this kind of animation is done with interpolated keyframes. An "animator" doesn't even need to do the animations anymore. With equipment and software, it's now trivial now to capture an actor and map everything automatically. I'm sure some manual clean-up is done, but there's not even any technical achievement here. Unlike rendering, animation and keyframes are not intensive operations. They're easy to do in real-time.

If you think it's "incredible," you're deluding yourself.

 

[CZroe]

Are you guys who aren't impressed actually watching the video? That facial animation is incredible, beyond even LA Noire. Impressive that it's running on a PS3 but only to the extent that LA Noire seemed equally like a generational leap.

Can't wait for this to be standard in big budget games. This + next gen rendering tech is going to be frighteningly close to photorealistic.

You are not making sense. It seems that you understand that the animation is a result of mere effort, which translates to production expense and not technical infeasibility. Strangely, you also seem to think it's technologically impressive. Does not compute!

The effort is *excessive* for a game, but not "impressive" because a whole industry already exists for that level of effort (CG animation) and we see it every day. What *technological* limitation prevents other games with similarly flexible character models from having a similar level of effort applied to the animation? FWIW, I expected better than L.A. Noire in 2006 when the PS3 launched.

Console-only gamers are so easily impressed. <---coming from a huge console fan.