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KaOTiK missing?

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Does anyone know where KaOTiK ran off to? I miss his steam posts. I believe he was going on vacation near the end of February, but I haven't saw a post from him since.
 
Yeah, I'm kind of worried too. Seems like he dropped off the face of the earth.

He mentioned he was going on vacation, although I also remember him mentioning some surgery/hospital visits before that. I hope he's not dead or anything. Maybe I'm being pessimistic.
 
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My guess would be that on his vacation he got laid and realized that his massive Steam library was not keeping him warm at night. Now he has a girlfriend (or boyfriend, I'm not judging!) , and we have to track our own Steam sales.

We miss you KaOTiK, but we understand. 😉
 
SMOGZINN said:
My guess would be that on his vacation he got laid and realized that his massive Steam library was not keeping him warm at night. Now he has a girlfriend (or boyfriend, I'm not judging!) , and we have to track our own Steam sales.

We miss you KaOTiK, but we understand. 😉
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If I remember correctly I did wish there was much debauchery on his vacation
 
Hey guys, sorry for the disappearing act.
I wasn't sure if I was still going to do the threads or not. Steam burned me on something and it pissed me off a lot and I wasn't sure if I would bother with the threads anymore or not at all.

Anyways, I'll start doing them at the start of the new week since a lot of people did find it useful and no use screwing them for my own issues with Steam atm.

Thank you for the concern though, I do appreciate it and was surprised to see this thread.
 
KaOTiK said:
Hey guys, sorry for the disappearing act.
I wasn't sure if I was still going to do the threads or not. Steam burned me on something and it pissed me off a lot and I wasn't sure if I would bother with the threads anymore or not at all.

Anyways, I'll start doing them at the start of the new week since a lot of people did find it useful and no use screwing them for my own issues with Steam atm.

Thank you for the concern though, I do appreciate it and was surprised to see this thread.
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I miss your scent.
 
KaOTiK said:
Hey guys, sorry for the disappearing act.
I wasn't sure if I was still going to do the threads or not. Steam burned me on something and it pissed me off a lot and I wasn't sure if I would bother with the threads anymore or not at all.

Anyways, I'll start doing them at the start of the new week since a lot of people did find it useful and no use screwing them for my own issues with Steam atm.

Thank you for the concern though, I do appreciate it and was surprised to see this thread.
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Well good to see nothing bad is going on, but do tell what happened with Steam?
 
KaOTiK said:
Hey guys, sorry for the disappearing act.
I wasn't sure if I was still going to do the threads or not. Steam burned me on something and it pissed me off a lot and I wasn't sure if I would bother with the threads anymore or not at all.

Anyways, I'll start doing them at the start of the new week since a lot of people did find it useful and no use screwing them for my own issues with Steam atm.

Thank you for the concern though, I do appreciate it and was surprised to see this thread.
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Care to elaborate on the burn? I'm just generally curious as to what they could have done that would tick even you off.
 
ImpulsE69 said:
Well good to see nothing bad is going on, but do tell what happened with Steam?
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gothamhunter said:
Care to elaborate on the burn? I'm just generally curious as to what they could have done that would tick even you off.
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This all happened back in early/mid Feb and didn't actually get "resolved" till late March iirc.

I traded for 2 copies of Thief to give as gifts to two of my close friends that are big Thief fans but couldn't afford to get the game for awhile. So I traded for these 2 copies and was going to wait till Steam started the pre-load to give it to them and surprise them.

Well a few days before the pre-load the 2 copies both became region locked out of nowhere. Now before this both copies had nothing on them that said they were region restricted in anyway, in fact both copies even said Thief Pre-Purchase ROW (ROW meaning Rest of World which is what non region locked copies are). I'm like wtf? So contact Steam support asking them to fix this.

Steam support says they can't do anything and are unable to change region restrictions. I tell them then how did my region free copy suddenly become region restricted and they just run me around in circles. They say that territory restrictions are noted on the packaging of the game/gift and I explain that there was no such restrictions before the day it suddenly had them.

They continue to say they can't do anything and tell me to use the trading system to obtain an alternate product. Funny enough I used their trading system to obtain these games already that did not have any indication at all that that they were restricted and did even did/do say ROW on them.

I continue to try and explain this too them, but they just say we can't help you anymore and are closing this topic. Basically telling me to go pound sand.

To make everything even weirder, I have a copy of Rust in my inventory I received through a trade as well. It was region free then when Thief became region restricted it also became region restricted, but then 2 days later it became region free again. I even told Steam support this and they act like it didn't even happen.

The whole thing really really pissed me off. I have 2 copies of Thief Pre-Purchase ROW in my inventory now but are region restricted to Russia/surrounding territories and am out what I traded for them because Steam decided to change restrictions on something without even having any kind of way of telling where and if there was any kind of restriction on the games to start with.

So I haven't purchased a thing from Steam since and am still a bit angry over the situation and the way it was handled. I don't know how they can get away with change restrictions on something out of nowhere like that. From what I read online when this happened, it happened to a lot of people too.
 
Sorry to hear that Kaotik, but glad you're back.

Obviously, there's something fishy going on with the "on/off" region lock system at Steam. If others are also having this issue, Steam needs to seriously address it.
 
KaOTiK said:
This all happened back in early/mid Feb and didn't actually get "resolved" till late March iirc.

I traded for 2 copies of Thief to give as gifts to two of my close friends that are big Thief fans but couldn't afford to get the game for awhile. So I traded for these 2 copies and was going to wait till Steam started the pre-load to give it to them and surprise them.

Well a few days before the pre-load the 2 copies both became region locked out of nowhere. Now before this both copies had nothing on them that said they were region restricted in anyway, in fact both copies even said Thief Pre-Purchase ROW (ROW meaning Rest of World which is what non region locked copies are). I'm like wtf? So contact Steam support asking them to fix this.

Steam support says they can't do anything and are unable to change region restrictions. I tell them then how did my region free copy suddenly become region restricted and they just run me around in circles. They say that territory restrictions are noted on the packaging of the game/gift and I explain that there was no such restrictions before the day it suddenly had them.

They continue to say they can't do anything and tell me to use the trading system to obtain an alternate product. Funny enough I used their trading system to obtain these games already that did not have any indication at all that that they were restricted and did even did/do say ROW on them.

I continue to try and explain this too them, but they just say we can't help you anymore and are closing this topic. Basically telling me to go pound sand.

To make everything even weirder, I have a copy of Rust in my inventory I received through a trade as well. It was region free then when Thief became region restricted it also became region restricted, but then 2 days later it became region free again. I even told Steam support this and they act like it didn't even happen.

The whole thing really really pissed me off. I have 2 copies of Thief Pre-Purchase ROW in my inventory now but are region restricted to Russia/surrounding territories and am out what I traded for them because Steam decided to change restrictions on something without even having any kind of way of telling where and if there was any kind of restriction on the games to start with.

So I haven't purchased a thing from Steam since and am still a bit angry over the situation and the way it was handled. I don't know how they can get away with change restrictions on something out of nowhere like that. From what I read online when this happened, it happened to a lot of people too.
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Sucks that you had to go through that, and you're in the right. Though I'm not surprised you ran into something like this with all the gray market trading.
 
That's why it's called DRM.
Sucks that you got burned, but hopefully people will be encouraged, where available, to get DRM free copies of games instead of buying DRM encumbered games.

There are some people on this forum who would rather buy a Steam version of a game than a GoG.com version, even when the price is the same. When DRM burns you, there isn't necessarily much you can do.

(Although I think the real mistake was buying any copies of Thief, especially when the price has been slashed such a short time after release).
 
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Lonyo said:
That's why it's called DRM.
Sucks that you got burned, but hopefully people will be encouraged, where available, to get DRM free copies of games instead of buying DRM encumbered games.

There are some people on this forum who would rather buy a Steam version of a game than a GoG.com version, even when the price is the same. When DRM burns you, there isn't necessarily much you can do.

(Although I think the real mistake was buying any copies of Thief, especially when the price has been slashed such a short time after release).
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In all fairness. Steam itself is not DRM, it is just a digital store. The Steam DRM is optional for devs/pubs to use. There are a lot of games on Steam that once you download the game you can run it without Steam running at all.
 
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