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Kanye West's "different" turn with 808s and Heartbreak

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fustercluck

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I'm just glad I'm not the only one who hates this new trend of 'robot voices'/autotune in music. It's awful.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
vocoders/auto tuners need to die now. ruining what was left of music.

the sad thing is, in order to get the effect, you HAVE to sing out of tune, otherwise, you dont give the effect anythign to change, therefore you don't hear any changes.

So yea here is how it goes

Producer: Kanye, I need you to sing that chorus again, but instead, sing it all fucked up, like out of key and bad notes, etc.

Kanye: That's easy!

Producer: Cool, now I;'ll just tell the effect what KEY you were supposed to be in, and all that stuff that is off will get effected and it will sound cool.
 

Liet

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: Liet
How do you Kanye fans get over the ridiculous conspiracy theories? The dude thinks there's a cure for AIDS the government is keeping from poor people because Magic Johnson hasn't died yet.

Magic Johnson doesn't have AIDS.
*shrug* i don't follow any of it. i just listen to the music.
That's the problem... this was a set of lyrics from a song. It's not a personal view, it's in his music.

"You know the best medicine go to people that's paid
If Magic Johnson got a cure for AIDS
And all the broke mu'fuckers passed away
You tellin' me if my grandma's in the NBA
Right now she'd be ok?"

Yah champ. Magic doesn't have AIDS. The beat may be good, but I just can't listen to music with terrible lyrics.


 

darkxshade

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Mar 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Liet
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: Liet
How do you Kanye fans get over the ridiculous conspiracy theories? The dude thinks there's a cure for AIDS the government is keeping from poor people because Magic Johnson hasn't died yet.

Magic Johnson doesn't have AIDS.
*shrug* i don't follow any of it. i just listen to the music.
That's the problem... this was a set of lyrics from a song. It's not a personal view, it's in his music.

"You know the best medicine go to people that's paid
If Magic Johnson got a cure for AIDS
And all the broke mu'fuckers passed away
You tellin' me if my grandma's in the NBA
Right now she'd be ok?"

Yah champ. Magic doesn't have AIDS. The beat may be good, but I just can't listen to music with terrible lyrics.

<---P&N&Kanye? :p
 

Doctor Nyse

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: binister
That vocoder/perfect pitch sound is the most annoying thing to come to music since the one-man band. Honestly, who in the right mind thinks it sounds good? Robots? I bet they think it sounds good.

You gotta admit it was perfect in California Love :)

California Love used a talkbox, not Auto-Tune
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: binister
That vocoder/perfect pitch sound is the most annoying thing to come to music since the one-man band. Honestly, who in the right mind thinks it sounds good? Robots? I bet they think it sounds good.

You gotta admit it was perfect in California Love :)

You're right, if fit that song perfect. That's about the only one, though. If this new Kanye album is all autotune garbage I won't be getting it. This coming from a big fan of all his other albums.
 

BeauJangles

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Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Liet
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: Liet
How do you Kanye fans get over the ridiculous conspiracy theories? The dude thinks there's a cure for AIDS the government is keeping from poor people because Magic Johnson hasn't died yet.

Magic Johnson doesn't have AIDS.
*shrug* i don't follow any of it. i just listen to the music.
That's the problem... this was a set of lyrics from a song. It's not a personal view, it's in his music.

"You know the best medicine go to people that's paid
If Magic Johnson got a cure for AIDS
And all the broke mu'fuckers passed away
You tellin' me if my grandma's in the NBA
Right now she'd be ok?"

Yah champ. Magic doesn't have AIDS. The beat may be good, but I just can't listen to music with terrible lyrics.

I just always thought that line was more about the disparity between the haves and have-nots. I didn't think it was really about government conspiracies or anything.
 

GregGreen

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Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: Liet
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: Liet
How do you Kanye fans get over the ridiculous conspiracy theories? The dude thinks there's a cure for AIDS the government is keeping from poor people because Magic Johnson hasn't died yet.

Magic Johnson doesn't have AIDS.
*shrug* i don't follow any of it. i just listen to the music.
That's the problem... this was a set of lyrics from a song. It's not a personal view, it's in his music.

"You know the best medicine go to people that's paid
If Magic Johnson got a cure for AIDS
And all the broke mu'fuckers passed away
You tellin' me if my grandma's in the NBA
Right now she'd be ok?"

Yah champ. Magic doesn't have AIDS. The beat may be good, but I just can't listen to music with terrible lyrics.

I just always thought that line was more about the disparity between the haves and have-nots. I didn't think it was really about government conspiracies or anything.

Uh, yea. It was about the gap in medical care between poor people and rich people...
 

SoulAssassin

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just acquired this...I don't mind the Roger Troutman/T-pain thing that much but this is the -entire album-. I really like Love Lockdown but it gets old real real quick when everything has the same sound.
 

CRXican

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They had T Pain on a local radio station. He said Kanye flew him out to Hawaii to teach him how to use the autotone.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
just acquired this...I don't mind the Roger Troutman/T-pain thing that much but this is the -entire album-. I really like Love Lockdown but it gets old real real quick when everything has the same sound.

Agreed. I took a listen to this album last night. My first impression was not that good. There are a few songs that are okay, but in general it sounds like the same crap I've heard pounded into my head on the radio over and over again.
 

realredpanda

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Just watched the Love Lockdown video on youtube, kept expecting a chorus of 'I'm blue, da ba dee da ba die'. On the one hand it's nice to see a hip hop artist try something different, in this case not rapping, however the song itself is just standard 80s' pop, as you get the impression he watched Miami Vice a lot as a kid.
 

LikeLinus

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Jul 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: Liet
How do you Kanye fans get over the ridiculous conspiracy theories? The dude thinks there's a cure for AIDS the government is keeping from poor people because Magic Johnson hasn't died yet.

Magic Johnson doesn't have AIDS.

There's your problem, right there. You actually know what Kanye's view is on the cure for AIDS.

BINGO!

That being said, I don't really give a crap about their personal lives or what they do outside of their profession. Michael Richard's outburst at that comedy club doesn't stop me from loving Kramer on Seinfeld.

The problem is you're supporting and funding this asshat who's out telling kids his bullshit and they're too young and nieve to know better. He's ignorant and uneducated. It's not his "personal life" when he's out here spreading this shit to the pubic via media.

The guy is a world class asshole. I'd never give him money, doesn't matter how good his music is. I don't care for his music though, so it's all good.


Ontopic: Autotune is freaking retarded. It shows complete and utter lack of talent.
 

Riceninja

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its a welcome change, a rapper doing a completely different album. he did a great job too, i love it. streetlights is very soothing and euphoric.

my favourite is probably see you in my knightmares.