TheBoyBlunder
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Never heard of him. Don't really care.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Kanye is nothing more than a mediocre lyricist, and never will be. His flows suck, he mumbles too much, his voice sucks, and he thinks he's clever and sarcastic when he's just plain corny. "Through the Wire" had a sick beat, but Kanye's lyrics sucked it up... cmon, this guy is TALKING for half the g.dam song, and there's no hook except a sped up Chaka looped. Anyone can talk on a song (like we should feel sorry for him b/c he fell asleep behind the wheel), and anyone can loop an 80's song, speed it up, and use it as the hook...
On the other hand, Kanye as a producer is incredible... Out of all of his beats, I maybe don't like two (out of around 35 songs)... He is sort of like Diddy, exceptional sampling and beats, but should have NEVER picked up the mike... Everyone wants to be like Dr.Dre, yet nobody can touch the Bo Jackson of hip hop (rapping and sick producing). But it was a nice try Kanye. lol
Originally posted by: cchen
lol
he's performing at my school next weekend.... i hope its a good show
Like you said, sick beats are enough... look at DJ Premier, Swizz Beats, Just Blaze, Neptunes, etc... I think anything Kanye produces will be pretty good just b/c of his incredible beats, but yes I don't think he can match his first album. I think he should keep the rapping to a minimum and concentrate more on producing, then get some heavy hitters to rap on his next album... On the issue of what he allegedly said, I doubt he "saved" hiphop. Jay-Z's Black Album was just as good or better than Kanye, as well as Outkast's. Funny how you can go from the humility of being lucky to be alive, to "everyone owes me something" attitude.Originally posted by: isasir
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Kanye is nothing more than a mediocre lyricist, and never will be. His flows suck, he mumbles too much, his voice sucks, and he thinks he's clever and sarcastic when he's just plain corny. "Through the Wire" had a sick beat, but Kanye's lyrics sucked it up... cmon, this guy is TALKING for half the g.dam song, and there's no hook except a sped up Chaka looped. Anyone can talk on a song (like we should feel sorry for him b/c he fell asleep behind the wheel), and anyone can loop an 80's song, speed it up, and use it as the hook...
On the other hand, Kanye as a producer is incredible... Out of all of his beats, I maybe don't like two (out of around 35 songs)... He is sort of like Diddy, exceptional sampling and beats, but should have NEVER picked up the mike... Everyone wants to be like Dr.Dre, yet nobody can touch the Bo Jackson of hip hop (rapping and sick producing). But it was a nice try Kanye. lol
I definitely agree with what you said, but sick beats, in hip hop especially, are enough to make a hit. And I'm guilty of liking his songs, despite knowing that he's not all that great lyrically.
A friend of mine put it simply - where does Kanye go from here? "College Dropout" touched on practically all that topics he seems capable of writing out (his accident, dropping out of college and Jesus, repeated in practically all his songs). I can't see him having a 2nd album that's any good.
"I saved hip hop, I'm on the radio, ya'll should be thanking me! I'm the first one to use soul samples in records, ya'll don't know that?"
Well, you're half way there already!Originally posted by: shady06
and a millionaireOriginally posted by: tweakmm
Moron.Originally posted by: xenocyd3
"I saved hip hop, I'm on the radio, ya'll should be thanking me! I'm the first one to use soul samples in records, ya'll don't know that?"
i wouldnt mind being a moron and rich off my @$$
Originally posted by: 50
What can you expect...? He's with rocafella....
Originally posted by: anxi80
^ he isn't jay-z anymore.... in '99 problems', shawn carter aka. jay-z kills off his jay-z persona by having him die in a hail of gunfire. he is now resurrecting himself as just 'shawn carter'.
::cough:: been done jay-z... 2pac getting shot and killed in 'toss it up' and then coming back as makaveli..then look what happened to him... ::/cough::
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Kanye is nothing more than a mediocre lyricist, and never will be. His flows suck, he mumbles too much, his voice sucks, and he thinks he's clever and sarcastic when he's just plain corny. "Through the Wire" had a sick beat, but Kanye's lyrics sucked it up... cmon, this guy is TALKING for half the g.dam song, and there's no hook except a sped up Chaka looped. Anyone can talk on a song (like we should feel sorry for him b/c he fell asleep behind the wheel), and anyone can loop an 80's song, speed it up, and use it as the hook...
On the other hand, Kanye as a producer is incredible... Out of all of his beats, I maybe don't like two (out of around 35 songs)... He is sort of like Diddy, exceptional sampling and beats, but should have NEVER picked up the mike... Everyone wants to be like Dr.Dre, yet nobody can touch the Bo Jackson of hip hop (rapping and sick producing). But it was a nice try Kanye. lol
2pac getting shot and killed in 'toss it up' and then coming back as makaveli..then look what happened to him
Originally posted by: AgentDingBat
one hit wonder
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Like you said, sick beats are enough... look at DJ Premier, Swizz Beats, Just Blaze, Neptunes, etc... I think anything Kanye produces will be pretty good just b/c of his incredible beats, but yes I don't think he can match his first album. I think he should keep the rapping to a minimum and concentrate more on producing, then get some heavy hitters to rap on his next album... On the issue of what he allegedly said, I doubt he "saved" hiphop. Jay-Z's Black Album was just as good or better than Kanye, as well as Outkast's. Funny how you can go from the humility of being lucky to be alive, to "everyone owes me something" attitude.Originally posted by: isasir
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Kanye is nothing more than a mediocre lyricist, and never will be. His flows suck, he mumbles too much, his voice sucks, and he thinks he's clever and sarcastic when he's just plain corny. "Through the Wire" had a sick beat, but Kanye's lyrics sucked it up... cmon, this guy is TALKING for half the g.dam song, and there's no hook except a sped up Chaka looped. Anyone can talk on a song (like we should feel sorry for him b/c he fell asleep behind the wheel), and anyone can loop an 80's song, speed it up, and use it as the hook...
On the other hand, Kanye as a producer is incredible... Out of all of his beats, I maybe don't like two (out of around 35 songs)... He is sort of like Diddy, exceptional sampling and beats, but should have NEVER picked up the mike... Everyone wants to be like Dr.Dre, yet nobody can touch the Bo Jackson of hip hop (rapping and sick producing). But it was a nice try Kanye. lol
I definitely agree with what you said, but sick beats, in hip hop especially, are enough to make a hit. And I'm guilty of liking his songs, despite knowing that he's not all that great lyrically.
A friend of mine put it simply - where does Kanye go from here? "College Dropout" touched on practically all that topics he seems capable of writing out (his accident, dropping out of college and Jesus, repeated in practically all his songs). I can't see him having a 2nd album that's any good.
Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Never heard of him. Don't really care.
Moron.[/quote]Originally posted by: tweakmm
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Originally posted by: xenocyd3
"I saved hip hop, I'm on the radio, ya'll should be thanking me! I'm the first one to use soul samples in records, ya'll don't know that?"
Originally posted by: gistech1978
Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Never heard of him. Don't really care.
Originally posted by: Arkitech
I'm positive that quote is false
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Best save I ever heard was when Robert Plant did that at the Pontiac Silverdome at a Page & Plant show. He said something like:
"G'Evning Cleveland! :: Pause :: Oh...wait...this is Detroit! Even better!!! Now I'm even HAPPIER to be here!"
He made it into a light hearted joke and it went over very well.
Originally posted by: johnnytightlips
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Kanye is nothing more than a mediocre lyricist, and never will be. His flows suck, he mumbles too much, his voice sucks, and he thinks he's clever and sarcastic when he's just plain corny. "Through the Wire" had a sick beat, but Kanye's lyrics sucked it up... cmon, this guy is TALKING for half the g.dam song, and there's no hook except a sped up Chaka looped. Anyone can talk on a song (like we should feel sorry for him b/c he fell asleep behind the wheel), and anyone can loop an 80's song, speed it up, and use it as the hook...
On the other hand, Kanye as a producer is incredible... Out of all of his beats, I maybe don't like two (out of around 35 songs)... He is sort of like Diddy, exceptional sampling and beats, but should have NEVER picked up the mike... Everyone wants to be like Dr.Dre, yet nobody can touch the Bo Jackson of hip hop (rapping and sick producing). But it was a nice try Kanye. lol
You are aware that Dr. Dre never wrote ANY of his lyrics, right?