Kansas votes for Intelligent Design

[Ilmater]

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For the record, I am a Missouri native, and I think that Kansas is just as fvcked up as you all do. They just REFUSE to recognize the one, true creator: His Noodleness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

 

[Darien]

The students of Kansas lose big on this one...

 

[halik]

i just donated money to aclu to fight this ******. Everyone shoud too :

http://aclu.org/Contribute/Contribute.cfm?color=2

 

[Martin]

All Hail His Noodly Appendage!

 

[Zenmervolt]

This is particularly sad given that the Roman Catholic Church has officially endorsed Darwinian Evolution and rejected Creationism.

http://www.news.com.au/story/print/0,10119,17162341,00.html

ZV

 

[Howard]

the changes would make teaching about evolution more balanced and expose studels teach science.

What?

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
This is particularly sad given that the Roman Catholic Church has officially endorsed Darwinian Evolution and rejected Creationism.

http://www.news.com.au/story/print/0,10119,17162341,00.html

ZV

Um, not exactly.

Poupard, for his part, stressed that what was important was that ?the universe wasn?t made by itself, but has a creator.? But he added, ?It?s important for the faithful to know how science views things to understand better.?

 

[everman]

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[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
This is particularly sad given that the Roman Catholic Church has officially endorsed Darwinian Evolution and rejected Creationism.

http://www.news.com.au/story/print/0,10119,17162341,00.html

ZV

Um, not exactly.

Poupard, for his part, stressed that what was important was that ?the universe wasn?t made by itself, but has a creator.? But he added, ?It?s important for the faithful to know how science views things to understand better.?

Yes, exactly. "Creationism" is a term for the belief that all things were created as they are now and that there has not been evolutionary change on the macro scale. "Creationism" is a separate entity from a belief in a divinely-guided Darwinian Evolutionary model.

It is worth noting that there is nothing in the Darwinian model that makes a claim for the non-existence of the Divine.

ZV

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
This is particularly sad given that the Roman Catholic Church has officially endorsed Darwinian Evolution and rejected Creationism.

http://www.news.com.au/story/print/0,10119,17162341,00.html

ZV

Um, not exactly.

Poupard, for his part, stressed that what was important was that ?the universe wasn?t made by itself, but has a creator.? But he added, ?It?s important for the faithful to know how science views things to understand better.?

Yes, exactly. "Creationism" is a term for the belief that all things were created as they are now and that there has not been evolutionary change on the macro scale. "Creationism" is a separate entity from a belief in a divinely-guided Darwinian Evolutionary model.

It is worth noting that there is nothing in the Darwinian model that makes a claim for the non-existence of the Divine.

ZV

It doesn't claim that there's no Santa Claus either, but does that mean we should be teaching kids that Santa Claus guides evolution?

 

[Pocatello]

Public education in the hands of religious freaks, be afraid, be very afraid.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
It doesn't claim that there's no Santa Claus either, but does that mean we should be teaching kids that Santa Claus guides evolution?

I'll request that you kindly refrain from putting words into my mouth.

I don't at all advocate teaching divinely-guided evolution in a science classroom. It's simply not scientifically verifiable and therefore has no business masquerading as science. I only meant to point out that the Vatican's embrace of the Darwinian model cannot be rightly construed on any level as them separating from the position that the universe is Divinely-guided. It was to contrast the fact that, while the Darwinian model is open to the addition of a faith-based interpretation, the "Creationism" model is not open to Darwinian evolution on any level.

ZV

 

[MazerRackham]

Go Jayhawks!

 

[mdchesne]

i thought there was seperation of church and state.... WTF HAPPENED TO THAT?!

let the churchies learn about creationism at church and let the intelligent people go to school.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
Public education in the hands of religious freaks, be afraid, be very afraid.

So true, so true.

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
This is particularly sad given that the Roman Catholic Church has officially endorsed Darwinian Evolution and rejected Creationism.

http://www.news.com.au/story/print/0,10119,17162341,00.html

ZV

Um, not exactly.

Poupard, for his part, stressed that what was important was that ?the universe wasn?t made by itself, but has a creator.? But he added, ?It?s important for the faithful to know how science views things to understand better.?

Yes, exactly. "Creationism" is a term for the belief that all things were created as they are now and that there has not been evolutionary change on the macro scale. "Creationism" is a separate entity from a belief in a divinely-guided Darwinian Evolutionary model.

It is worth noting that there is nothing in the Darwinian model that makes a claim for the non-existence of the Divine.

ZV

Yes, and Catholicism has never "officially endorsed" Darwinian Evolution. They have acknowledged that it has a solid body of evidence behind it and that it holds more weight than just a simple hypothesis. However, I do not believe they have accepted that humans have evolved from earlier species (as this directly contradicts the teachings of the Bible) or that evolution is driven purely by natural forces and not by God's will.

 

[kukyfrope]

I live in Kansas and don't care, sup.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
I live in Kansas and don't care, sup.

you SHOULD care. Our heaven has a beer vocano and a stripper factory.

 

[Xyclone]

:thumbsdown:

 

[MrDingleDangle]

the board rewrote the standards' definition of science, so that it is no longer limited to the search for natural explanations of phenomena.

wtf...they re-wrote the def. of science...so everyplace in the world science means one thing, but if you go to kansas it means something different


this kinda reminds me of physics class in high school when the teacher had to dumb us down to take state exams because New York State was not up to date on physics...well this is 1000X worse then that, but still

 

[Agnostos Insania]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
I live in Kansas and don't care, sup.

Then it's right up your alley.

 

[shimsham]

wheres the problem? sounds like democracy in action. the citizens of missouri want it taught, so they voted it in.

 

[cyclohexane]

this is unconsciable!

 

[0roo0roo]

:|

 

[drsafety]

Originally posted by: mdchesne
i thought there was seperation of church and state.... WTF HAPPENED TO THAT?!

let the churchies learn about creationism at church and let the intelligent people go to school.

religous fundamentalism run amok.