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Indus

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Look at the performance of Western Democracies VS Eastern Autocracy.
Their funneling of resources to Russia VS our feckless "don't anger them" strategy. Losing ground every day. Handing key resources, vital to the future, to our opponent.
Until the day we win, I will adamantly demand we do more. And I am not so sure we are going to win.

Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire. A Democracy is derived from the consent of the governed. If any one party withdraws their consent to be governed, there can no longer be a Democracy. We don't have to lift a finger for Republicans to end America. They just have to declare that our civil Union is over and act accordingly. Surely it is a misunderstanding of this fact that drives a fear that, in our response we would be the ones to end it. Ours would be a response to them already ending it. Thus we cannot be the ones who did so.

At this point it is sort of like an arms race. Are we guilty if we skip ahead and take the lead. Take command of the situation and try to exert a measure of control?
  • Ask yourself why we feel the need to do this. Is it justified?
  • Ask yourself what our goal is. What do we hope to achieve by such acts?
The particulars would determine the morality of our fight. However, like any good plan, it does fall apart once it meets the opponent. Before long it becomes fighting for the sake of fighting. To avenge what came before. At that point it would be hard to tell the difference. You would have a point then and there. However, at that point, what difference does it make? Any real conflict will remove our limits out of sheer necessity. Any conflict will stain the hands of the innocent red.

Do not be so quick to judge those pressed to fight. Go back to the two question. Why, and for what end?
The answers will not be black and white, but they can make sense. They can be justifiable in the face of conflict.

Sometimes he's such an idealist he doesn't realize how his positions give a massive advantage to his enemies by being so rigid.

After all the other side is so dedicated to rules for thee but no rules for me.

I'd not be surprised if a load of rich folk have a plan for the next 50 years that protects themselves and their own. Hard times are coming eventually.

Imo we'll have to address the combo of less hospitable lands, dangers to food and water and too many people. To fix overpopulation, the fascist governments could give grants for becoming infertile to the darkies, or volunteered euthanasia at a certain age so they don't drain resources (social security/ medicare/ medicaid). Lots of things we've seen in sci-fi could soon be on the table.

But people don't like being cornered so I think the only answer will be revolution, war and famine and disease and meantime those with the most wealth will be safe from the worst.

And what better to keep them in power than a death to democracy to keep them isolated from us the masses!

P.S. I made a long post about revolution and timing and success a while ago and that still applies, but it seems people are just apathetic at the moment.
 

nakedfrog

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Oh, the latest dumb Trump-boosting text I received, from yesterday...
 

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zinfamous

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We desperately need a CEO ad..

Please vote MAGA so I can start charging $30 for a gallon of gas, $30 for eggs, $45 for a loaf of breed.

Thank you President Trump.. we love you.. you truly have made AGA where we can fuck over the little shits *cough* your followers *cough*!

I would not be surprised that a president Trump never does his tariffs because perhaps some competent secretary will hogtie him, but he will have course constantly claim over and over again that he made the strongest and hardest tariffs in history against Gina. The people won't actually feel it because it never happened, but he'll say it did and pusbrains like Greenman will believe him and cheer on as all the liberals were wrong again that tariffs have hurt them.
 

K1052

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Can't really disagree with Bernie here


Reportedly her meeting with Netanyahu was pretty frosty and signaled that she was not, at all, going to be as forgiving as Biden. Bibi was really pissed but knows there is a chance he'll have to deal with her. In the event of a Harris win US policy on Israeli conduct is very likely to shift in a meaningful way against the hardliners. Probably why Trump is the overwhelming choice for next president when surveyed lol.
 

nakedfrog

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Can't really disagree with Bernie here

I can't help but wonder how many of the (online) people on the left I see berating anyone that says we need to vote for Harris because genocide/actually Democrats are fascists too/the US deserves to burn are legitimate(ly stupid) and how many are foreign agents. Anyone with a couple functioning brain cells to rub together can easily discern things will be worse for Gaza with Trump in office. "But we need to punish the Dems" (oh and also punishing the people they purport to care about even further)
 
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Indus

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I can't help but wonder how many of the (online) people on the left I see berating anyone that says we need to vote for Harris because genocide/actually Democrats are fascists too/the US deserves to burn are legitimate(ly stupid) and how many are foreign agents. Anyone with a couple functioning brain cells to rub together can easily discern things will be worse for Gaza with Trump in office. "But we need to punish the Dems" (oh and also punishing the people they purport to care about even further)

Look at the Majority Report.. you have a few elon bros over there calling in
 

gothuevos

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This guy is a major blueanon so keep that in mind, but glad to see more people paying attention to the billionaires behind the scenes and their malicious intent behind manipulation (ie, crash) of our economy.

They went from "eggs are too expensive" to "we need to crash the economy for your own good" literally overnight.

Something is brewing and it most definitely won't be for our benefit.

 
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MrSquished

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Everytime I see a quote from fucking idiots that want to vote for Trump because grocery prices are out of control, I keep hearing 8 bucks for eggs.

I'm getting pasture raised non-organic eggs for $4.99 at fucking whole foods. Just regular eggs would be cheaper, because pasture raised actually means something. At the most $3.99.

Fucking people are assholes.
 
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Everytime I see a quote from fucking idiots that want to vote for Trump because grocery prices are out of control, I keep hearing 8 bucks for eggs.

I'm getting pasture raised non-organic eggs for $4.99 at fucking whole foods. Just regular eggs would be cheaper, because pasture raised actually means something. At the most $3.99.

Fucking people are assholes.
Anyone buying $8 eggs and complaining about it must have some sort of humiliation fetish. If eggs are too expensive, don't fucking buy them. Or consider a different, non-fabrege egg for your everyday omelet needs.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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No but I definitely don't want to end up killed by authoritarians or deported by them for the 2nd time.

You need to fight them off and Biden clearly isn't willing or maybe I should hold AG Garland responsible.

Instead they seem to be willing martyrs.
'i need an authoritarian to protect me from the authoritarians' is literally what moron conservatives have been crowing about for years now.
 
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MrSquished

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Anyone buying $8 eggs and complaining about it must have some sort of humiliation fetish. If eggs are too expensive, don't fucking buy them. Or consider a different, non-fabrege egg for your everyday omelet needs.
The only $8 eggs are the fucking Vital farms organic pasture raised. These people are lying.
 

Indus

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'i need an authoritarian to protect me from the authoritarians' is literally what moron conservatives have been crowing about for years now.

Don't forget crowing about some phantom villian who in reality is totally braindead..

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'i need an authoritarian to protect me from the authoritarians' is literally what moron conservatives have been crowing about for years now.
Sideshow Bob: Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king.
 
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