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fskimospy

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MrPickins said:
It also decreases confidence in the election. Remember how so many MAGAs couldn't understand why some results weren't certified on election night?

"They're in there rigging the vote!1!!"
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That was always a fun one where they thought Biden’s gradual increase in votes over time was due to Democrats stealing the election when instead it was in fact the GOP controlled legislature’s law that prohibited counting mail in ballots until Election Day.

So they made a law that made counting slow, then used the slow counting as evidence of something nefarious.
 
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fskimospy said:
That was always a fun one where they thought Biden’s gradual increase in votes over time was due to Democrats stealing the election when instead it was in fact the GOP controlled legislature’s law that prohibited counting mail in ballots until Election Day.

So they made a law that made counting slow, then used the slow counting as evidence of something nefarious.
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This was exactly what I was thinking about, and the new rule would just exacerbate it.

The populous districts (i.e. more liberal) are now going to take even longer than the rural ones,.
 
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Brainonska511

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K1052 said:
Man the Teamsters leadership really are a bunch of cowards. They justified no endorsement hiding behind their rail workers who have now endorsed Harris anyway.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837153605293339135
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lol, anyone that brings up "rail workers" when discussing the current administrations and unions is just a moron looking for internet clout. If they actually followed the railway workers stuff, they'd know that continued negotiations did lead to them getting the additional paid sick days they wanted.

And also, you have to have a potato spud of a brain to think that a freight rail strike before Christmas would have played out well for any democratic priority.
 
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jdubs03

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Indus said:
Is it just me or Trump's total campaign is now focused on:

Selling NFT, shoes, crypto, vaping stuff while secretly rigging the election making certification hard if not impossible so it goes the house or SCOTUS and they put him in the white house?
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I would go further than specifically stating that this is only the Trump campaign. Sure they’re spearheading it, but this is a GOP platform at this point independent of Trump.
This is all about confusion and making it appear as if the votes are being counted in some deceitful way as has been said here.

Basically it’s 2020 shenanigans on steroids. And the only reason why it hasn’t happened in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Arizona is because Republicans don’t have control.

My thinking is these are trial run after trial run in prepping for a fascist/authoritarian takeover of the United States government. They’ve already delegitimized election integrity and they’re going after the certification. That is the only explanation.
 
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jdubs03

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So NBC and CBS just released national polls today.

NBC: 49 Harris - 44 Trump
CBS: 51 Harris - 49 Trump

Seems reasonably consistent with 3.5pt lead for Harris.
 
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manly

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jdubs03 said:
So NBC and CBS just released national polls today.

NBC: 49 Harris - 44 Trump
CBS: 51 Harris - 49 Trump

Seems reasonably consistent with 3.5pt lead for Harris.
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National polls are a quick way to assess the race, but can be misleading for those who don't understand EC math as we do. In reality, this election is about 7 states and 7 states only.

We're hopeful that Harris/Walz opens up a gap in October, but as of today, this is the closest election in half a century:

 
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Georgia is really not likely to vote to the right of North Carolina IMO. IF NYT/Siena is wrong this cycle it is because they are modeling an election that is too Republican (they are at R+3 IIRC).
 
Pens1566

Pens1566

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K1052 said:
Georgia is really not likely to vote to the right of North Carolina IMO. IF NYT/Siena is wrong this cycle it is because they are modeling an election that is too Republican (they are at R+3 IIRC).
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Depends on how big a drag Robinson ends up being. I could also see him ultimately losing some R support because racism.

And, prior to '20, people would have been saying the exact opposite about NC/GA ... I'm just not super confident that the '20 GA results were more than a blip.
 
Fanatical Meat

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Amused said:
So much for all those MAGA memes with Sam Elliot...

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Well done standouts to me:
Are we going to go down that same broken fucking road?
Is it about the woman thing? It’s time to get over it
Be a Man and vote for a Woman

Well targeted ad
 
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K1052

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Pens1566 said:
Depends on how big a drag Robinson ends up being. I could also see him ultimately losing some R support because racism.

And, prior to '20, people would have been saying the exact opposite about NC/GA ... I'm just not super confident that the '20 GA results were more than a blip.
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NC went to Trump by 1.3% in 2020 and GA flipped to Biden as the latter state has been lurching toward the Dems as their areas grow. Suddenly GA has reversed course and become much redder? I'm pretty skeptical.
 
Indus

Indus

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K1052 said:
NC went to Trump by 1.3% in 2020 and GA flipped to Biden as the latter state has been lurching toward the Dems as their areas grow. Suddenly GA has reversed course and become much redder? I'm pretty skeptical.
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NC went for Obama the first time around and GA didn't.

I think there's a lot of people in GA that Biden appealed to but Kam can't (old white guys who won't vote for a black person no matter what.. basically what's happening in NC with Robinson)

So yeah polls are wacky but I still believe since NC swung before for Obama it could swing again while GA might be a tad difficult.

But I could be completely wrong as demographics change after every election cycle.. I never thought VA would be blue but now it's consistently blue.
 
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Prior to '20, GA had been at least a R+4/5 result since '92. NC at least went D in '08 for Obama and has been closer than GA overall in the last ~30yrs. As for growth areas, outside of Atlanta metro, it's really solid MTG country. Those rural areas are typically HEAVY GQP areas to the tune of 80+% results. I also think there was more than a smidge of reverse coattails action going on by having the two senate seats up in the '20 election as well.
 
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