Kahakai 0.5.1 is out!

pitupepito2000

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Hi,

I have been using this window manager for quite a few versions now and it is awseme a lot of people talk about it in the gentoo forums, and if you haven't tried it you should give it a try.

http://kahakai.sourceforge.net/index.php

Features

* Preliminary ruby support
* Window/edge snapping
* Transparent window titles and menus with anti-aliased fonts
* Python scripting (Ruby/Perl support planned) used for configuration
* Dockapp support
* Pixmap styles, compatible with Blackbox/Fluxbox/Openbox & Waimea styles
* Viewports, multiple desktops
* KDE and GNOME support

This is what some people say about it.
"They must have an army of dark ninja monkies over there writing code since every release has major improvements."

"This is definitely my new windom (sic) manager.

One reason: I just learned Python."

"oh
my
god
kahakai kicks ass"

"I just want to say that I really like kahakai from what I've seen so far.. [...] jesus christ.. I'm really amazed by kahakai... it's everything fluxbox was supposed to be and much much more, and it works too!"

"this looks..NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe [... this is] my new wm"

Common give it a try,
pitupepito
 

drag

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Does that mean I would have to install X?

probably.

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drag

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Well if you want to lighten up a bit. Heres a riddle:

When is a Window manager, not a window manager.

when it's ...


I used it for a bit. It was... well, different. Usefull for most things, but not fun for using Gimp and other programs that required to have a lot of windows open. Great for multimedia stuff though.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: drag
Well if you want to lighten up a bit. Heres a riddle:

When is a Window manager, not a window manager.

when it's ...


I used it for a bit. It was... well, different. Usefull for most things, but not fun for using Gimp and other programs that required to have a lot of windows open. Great for multimedia stuff though.

I never got around to installing that. Thought it was interresting though.

I got used to my WM of choice, and never saw much of a reason to play with anythng else. I was happy. Now I have a totally different X, and haven't gone back. Yet ;)
 

drag

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Totally different X? What not XFree86 or something?

And that favorite WM of choice of yours was, what?


Right now I am using Gnome with window maker, for a while I was using KDE. Both are ok, I like the convenience, but after a while they get annoying.

My first was Gnome, kde sucked. But I like enlightenment. And pretty soon I'd run Enlightenment by itself, with no gnome or anything like that over it.

Athough for Shz&giggles I ran Enlightenment over Quake3. Which was interesting. I got to play quake, but with the enlightenement virtual desktop indicator thingi over it, but the mouse was trapped by quake so I couldn't actually do anything, other then play quake.

For a long time I ran BLackbox, then fluxbox. Next thing I'll try I donno
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: drag
Totally different X? What not XFree86 or something?

Mac OS X ;) I run X in rootless mode occassionally though.

And that favorite WM of choice of yours was, what?[/b]

Blackbox. I tried KDE, Gnome, Sawfish, enlightenment, windowmaker, icewm, and who knows what else. Blackbox was fast, minimal, easily customizable, and worked for me.

I'll get back to X11 sooner or later.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: drag
Totally different X? What not XFree86 or something?

Mac OS X ;) I run X in rootless mode occassionally though.

And that favorite WM of choice of yours was, what?

Blackbox. I tried KDE, Gnome, Sawfish, enlightenment, windowmaker, icewm, and who knows what else. Blackbox was fast, minimal, easily customizable, and worked for me.

I'll get back to X11 sooner or later.
 

drag

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I'll get back to X11 sooner or later.

Have you ever tried using Mac on Linux?

Personally I would love to have a PowerPC, but I don't want to use OS X for a main desktop. However if this stuff works well then I can have my cake and eat it, too. I can get the Mac apps to screw around with, but I still get my Linux to use and have all the apps run natively in X11.

Howabout X11 for OS X? Ever tried that? I know that commercial versions you can have a window'd X desktop, but I think that XFree86 for PowerPC is fullscreen only, or something like that....
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Nithin
it says i need g++ 3.0. Where do i get it?


Gcc is the Gnu C compiler. G++ is the C++ counterpart for it. See if you can install the newest version of Gcc for your OS.

Becarefull older versions of 2.9 Gcc don't like to play well with others. I forget the cut-off point though. :(
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: drag
I'll get back to X11 sooner or later.

Have you ever tried using Mac on Linux?

Haven't tried it.

Personally I would love to have a PowerPC, but I don't want to use OS X for a main desktop. However if this stuff works well then I can have my cake and eat it, too. I can get the Mac apps to screw around with, but I still get my Linux to use and have all the apps run natively in X11.

Howabout X11 for OS X? Ever tried that? I know that commercial versions you can have a window'd X desktop, but I think that XFree86 for PowerPC is fullscreen only, or something like that....

I run X on OS X. In rootless mode. I can run X11 apps and use my OS X applications on the same desktop.
 

Sunner

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Odd to require 3.x, seeing as 2.95 is still in very wide use

No deb's...and Im too lazy to download and compile manually.

Hey wait..they have an APT source...yay! :)
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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Extended backwards compatability is really not a big concern for us, it would be too crippling. Although there's no specific reason gcc < 3 isn't supported (basically, it just never worked, and none of us use it, and no one complained, so there's been no reason to spend time on it), there are other things that are required too, like X 4.2 and imlib2 and python 2.2.2, etc. Kahakai is bleeding edge and makes no excuses about it. :p

And while more backwards compatability in other WMs perfectly reasonable, older ones like blackbox are pretty ridiculous about it. #ifdef SHAPE? Who in this day and age runs an X server that can't run xeyes correctly?

edit: woo 9005 posts, approaching the 10000 loser mark ;)
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: pitupepito2000
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
If it requires gcc 3, I probably won't be able to use kahakai...

you could upgrade gcc

Sounds easier than it really is. Do you have any clue if the entire system compiles under gcc 3? I don't. I've been playing with gcc 3 a little bit, but so far, things aren't entirely positive. Maybe I'll be able to build it today...
 

drag

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I don't know, seems gcc 3 is pretty mature....

Wouldn't seem to be a big deal since you can have more then one copy of gcc at a time. But what do I know, eh?

Something to screw around with when you get bored.