Kabini 5350 a good option for basic usage?

[skipsneeky2]

Just saying. I'm using a G1850 and an H81M-S2H now and its sufficient. Which mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...57483&cm_re=h81_asrock-_-13-157-483-_-Product

ASROCK H81M-DGS-R2.0,for $45 the motherboard layout wise fits the build perfectly.Asrock is great about slapping 2 or more cpu fan plugs on there which i use every time as well.:thumbsup:

The build is pretty much playing older games and ones that run well enough on dual cores.Lacking front 3.0 usb is fine as the case for the build momentarily is a server case from 1999.

Got this case right here she picked out that soon will house the build,me myself i just don't give a f if i get caught using it........


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=Apevia_X-QPACK3-PK-_-11-144-297-_-Product

 

[escrow4]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...57483&cm_re=h81_asrock-_-13-157-483-_-Product

ASROCK H81M-DGS-R2.0,for $45 the motherboard layout wise fits the build perfectly.Asrock is great about slapping 2 or more cpu fan plugs on there which i use every time as well.:thumbsup:

The build is pretty much playing older games and ones that run well enough on dual cores.Lacking front 3.0 usb is fine as the case for the build momentarily is a server case from 1999.

Got this case right here she picked out that soon will house the build,me myself i just don't give a f if i get caught using it........

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=Apevia_X-QPACK3-PK-_-11-144-297-_-Product

You'll need an add in board for that DGS for front panel USB 3. Even though the DGS series is the bottom of the barrel Asrock normally isn't that cheap. Adding in front panel USB 3 would be a few dollars or less at best.

 

[myocardia]

Yea and spending a little more you can have a better GPU than the GT 740. Spending another $50 on top of that will get you a faster CPU. And another $100 more will get you even better performance and so on.
We can always have more performance if we spend more, the point is that at the same low budget that APUs are created for in the first place, you always have to compromise between a better CPU or better GPU.

While I agree with your sentiment completely, I've noticed that no matter how much you spend, you get less for every extra dollar/peso/euro/franc/yen, because it's a case of diminishing returns. The absolute largest gains for your money comes at the bottom. For instance, upgrading from the fastest APU to the slowest decent dGPU, which to me would be the GTX 750 or R7 260, makes an utterly huge upgrade. For someone used to gaming with an older laptop, a GT 740 would be an absolutely huge upgrade, although admittedly upgrading to an A10-7870k would be a fairly large upgrade as well, since it has the equivalent GPU of an R7-250, at least from what I've read from various sources.

 

[coercitiv]

I've noticed that no matter how much you spend, you get less for every extra dollar/peso/euro/franc/yen, because it's a case of diminishing returns.

Look at it the other way around: no mater how much performance you give up, you save less and less money as you reach the bottom.

 

[skipsneeky2]

You'll need an add in board for that DGS for front panel USB 3. Even though the DGS series is the bottom of the barrel Asrock normally isn't that cheap. Adding in front panel USB 3 would be a few dollars or less at best.

Haven't had a need for USB 3.0 yet honestly,outside of a usb keyboard and mouse and a single 16gb thumb drive i don't own much of anything that requires a usb connection.

Bought a Asrock board about that cheap for another build,its been nothing but good.It's my go to brand now for cheap motherboards.Hope this one goes as good.I am sure it will.

 

[skipsneeky2]

For someone used to gaming with an older laptop, a GT 740 would be an absolutely huge upgrade, although admittedly upgrading to an A10-7870k would be a fairly large upgrade as well, since it has the equivalent GPU of an R7-250, at least from what I've read from various sources.

My wife was using a Hp notebook which had a mobile i5 and HD3000 and overheating issues.Eventually fried itself but it was pretty much only good for browing and some Wizard 101.Any other game made from 2005 onwards pretty much ran like garbage from the throttling.

I know the GT 740 can handle WOT with moderate settings upwards of 900p and 1080p with bare minimum settings at 1080p.The notebook barely ran at 40fps half the time down to 1024x768.

 

[ShintaiDK]

My wife was using a Hp notebook which had a mobile i5 and HD3000 and overheating issues.Eventually fried itself but it was pretty much only good for browing and some Wizard 101.Any other game made from 2005 onwards pretty much ran like garbage from the throttling.

I know the GT 740 can handle WOT with moderate settings upwards of 900p and 1080p with bare minimum settings at 1080p.The notebook barely ran at 40fps half the time down to 1024x768.

How did it overheat and fry itself? The CPU and chipset cant be fried due to overheating for example. I think its 12-13 years since the last CPU without overheating protection was sold.

 

[skipsneeky2]

How did it overheat and fry itself? The CPU and chipset cant be fried due to overheating for example. I think its 12-13 years since the last CPU without overheating protection was sold.

When i mean the notebook fried itself the motherboard and pretty much everything in it went up in a small puff of smoke.Wife was using it when it completely shut off out of the blue.Then it refuses to turn on a while then when it did puff came the smoke and the obvious smell of a burnt motherboard.Zero function or any indication of possible functionality after that.It became a paperweight.Even took out the ssd which got short circuited and caused issues even hooking it up to my pc.

Between issues with the dvd-rom drive,the busted scree, its throttling and add in the fact it wasn't much good for anything a suitable desktop was and is the only good replacement.It had a BGA cpu so it wasn't even upgradable .

It wasn't a bad notebook when i first got it,had traded a 7970 for it when they were new.Slapped in 8gb of ram and a 64gb ssd pretty much immediately.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Uff, so just a bad build one :/

 

[skipsneeky2]

Uff, so just a bad build one :/

HD3000 on the desktop is good enough for CSGO 800x600 all low with a constant 60+ fps but the mobile on a good day it would hit upper 50s. A 5400k or 7600 APU would run circles around desktop HD3000 i believe upwards of 1024x768.

A replacement lap top or notebook wasn't in the cards,shes surfing her tablet on Facebook/Netflix which works and since the notebook was nearly worthless for anything outside of Quake Live or UT99 or Facebook gaming wise i am glad we did this new build.

 

[Engineer]

Fry's has the AM1 board for $8 after rebate and e-mailed code right now (ITX board). Should be online for awhile starting tonight but that's a YMMV. Tempted to pick one up and wait for a 5150 or 5350 to go on sale (been running as low as $29 for the 5350 every so often at Frys). Just something to play with!

Edit: Board will be on sale tomorrow and should be online at 7:00am or so (YMMV) for the $8 price after rebate and promo code.

 

[dark zero]

Fry's has the AM1 board for $8 after rebate and e-mailed code right now (ITX board). Should be online for awhile starting tonight but that's a YMMV. Tempted to pick one up and wait for a 5150 or 5350 to go on sale (been running as low as $29 for the 5350 every so often at Frys). Just something to play with!

AM1 is only useful if you want to OC it. The cheapest experimental OC chip before going big.

 

[Engineer]

AM1 is only useful if you want to OC it. The cheapest experimental OC chip before going big.

No pfsense love at stock speed? Personally, I think this will make a pretty good router / firewall if paired with a super cheap processor. Uses regular DIMMs, has an 8X PCIe slot (great for adding dual or quad port Intel NIC) and is pretty low power. ITX is a plus too.

I'm not saying that this is regular, day to day PC (it might be, not sure) nor a gaming PC (It's not).

 

[skipsneeky2]

Fry's has the AM1 board for $8 after rebate and e-mailed code right now (ITX board). Should be online for awhile starting tonight but that's a YMMV. Tempted to pick one up and wait for a 5150 or 5350 to go on sale (been running as low as $29 for the 5350 every so often at Frys). Just something to play with!

Edit: Board will be on sale tomorrow and should be online at 7:00am or so (YMMV) for the $8 price after rebate and promo code.

If i was California still i certainly would have been looking for a combo deal.I shopped there so much the people nearly fight to serve me in hopes of getting that commission.I was known by name.No frys here in Arkansas,we got Best Buy and that's it.

Got awesome combo deals at Frys and my first budget pc build had a nearly free ECS motherboard and a E4500.A week or so later i exchanged and paid the difference for a E6750 combo then at the same time i slapped in a 8800 gts 512 from Evga.They kicked ass at allowing exchanges.:thumbsup:

A super cheap 5350 build from Frys would be awesome for games like BF1942,Q3A and UT99.Build it super small and its onboard IPG and 25w package could handle those games with ease.Q3A and UT99 fly even on HD2000.

 

[Engineer]

A super cheap 5350 build from Frys would be awesome for games like BF1942,Q3A and UT99.Build it super small and its onboard IPG and 25w package could handle those games with ease.Q3A and UT99 fly even on HD2000.

I'm still crying from taking too long and missing the 5350 / MSI combo deal for $34.99 from a few month ago. Really tempted to get this board and hope to get the 5350 for a cheap price soon (if not, I'm out $8 for the board).

 

[skipsneeky2]

Freaking Fedex Smartpost shipping Parts should be in tomorrow.Not sure why a big huge 10 pound box comes in the mail but small things like shirts have come by the truck.

Planning on grabbing a day of premium for WOT the second its up and running.Run that game all day as most of the gaming time will be that title.Grinding up to the tier 4 Matilda should be fun and time consuming.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Got the parts and the build is up.WOT runs beautiful as long as i drop a couple settings.Got other games installing but the G1820 runs extremely cool.:thumbsup:

Got a issue though with the GT 740 from MSI,still investing it after about 15 reapplications of thermal paste but this card runs extremely hot.It hits 91 cel on my best application.

Maybe there is a voltage issue?I will start up a thread on it in the gpu section.

 

[TheELF]

Got the parts and the build is up.WOT runs beautiful as long as i drop a couple settings.Got other games installing but the G1820 runs extremely cool.:thumbsup:

You can even undervolt it quite a bit, (if you noticed from my videos I run it @0.7517) for even better temps.

 

[skipsneeky2]

You can even undervolt it quite a bit, (if you noticed from my videos I run it @0.7517) for even better temps.

GPU-Z shows a 1.0120v vddc.

 

[Phynaz]

That temp is within spec. Don't worry about it.

 

[skipsneeky2]

That temp is within spec. Don't worry about it.

I have to keep gpu usage from maxing out long time at 91cel,the core likes to drop to 503Mhz.Lower settings enough to keep the G1820 the bottleneck with 95% or lower gpu usage and it holds 1006mhz with no issues.Vsync drives me nuts.

Many rounds of WOT tonight with upwards of 80+ usage on the cpu cores,it hit a max of 43 cel which is fantastic.:thumbsup:

 

[skipsneeky2]

You can even undervolt it quite a bit, (if you noticed from my videos I run it @0.7517) for even better temps.

No voltage control of any kind for my card,at least with MSI AB.I'm fine with the temps if they are in spec.I just found them higher then i am used to.

The cpu on the other hand runs extremely cool,did a Cinebench r11.5 run and it topped out at 48 cel.

Running the same settings i run on my 660 and i5 2500 rig,i am getting well over 60fps on that G1820 in WOT and that is with a single 4gb stick of ram.I can only assume a dual channel kit could open up even more fps.:thumbsup:

Downloading and installing some COD BO2 and CSGO now.

 

[TheELF]

I was talking about the CPU,that's what I quoted from your post.
No idea what's up with your GPU.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I was talking about the CPU,that's what I quoted from your post.
No idea what's up with your GPU.

Cooler is junk,single piece of aluminum and mine you its pretty thin on some parts.It just appears to be designed simply to be in specs while not being overclockable.It's like the intel stock cooler for my i5 2500,but for a gpu lol.

Maybe this card is part of a batch with a Bios with a higher then average voltage and instead of scrapping it they just locked it down,slapped a cooler on it and discounted it heavily.

I will slap it in my other build just for the hell of it,in case something is going on with my motherboard but i got my doubts of a different experience.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I was talking about the CPU,that's what I quoted from your post.
No idea what's up with your GPU.

Fixed it,some machining issues with the heatsink caused some unnecessary spacing.There was some o-ring shims around the mounting holes that i basically removed then presto i fixed it.:thumbsup: