K7S5A slow boot issue

robdarwin

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May 22, 2002
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Here's what I've got: Athlon 1900+, K7S5A, 512MB generic PC2100 DDR, 340W PS, Maxtor 20GB HDD, GeForce 2 GTS, 3Com NIC.

Here's what I'm seeing: when I first started trying to do a clean install of XP Pro, I was using generic PC133 SDRAM. I would get a bluescreen/freeze/spontaneous reboot in XP setup just after it said "Starting Windows..." and could not get past that point. Playing with BIOS options varied the error messages but didn't get me anywhere.

So I bought the DDR stick. The first evening I tried it, it got a bit further in the install, far enough that I could create and format a new partition, but would bluescreen at various points therein or shortly thereafter. I shut it down and went to bed. Next morning, I fired it up just to get the error code from the bluescreen so I could take it into the shop. The silly thing went all the way through the install!

XP worked fine at that point except for a couple of things. First, booting is extremely slow. Specifically, it brings up the graphical Windows XP logo screen, spins the progress bar about 3 times, then goes black. The monitor light is green, so it's still getting a signal, but the screen is black. It stays this way for about 5 minutes, then brings up the Welcome screen. The sound plays, then it sits there for 30-45 seconds. Then the wallpaper comes up, and it sits there for 30-45 seconds. Then the task bar comes up and from then on it works without any problems. The only other thing I've seen is on the Diablo II install, which hangs for 5-10 minutes after I answer all its prompts, then completes without further incident. Many other Installshield installs complete without incident.

Things I've tried: I tried forcing it to use the standard HAL instead of the ACPI HAL but the behavior stayed the same. I tried several different versions of the BIOS, and am currently using the latest one, released a few days ago. Tried setting Other Boot Devices to No. Tried using static IP addresses. Tried disabling ICS. Tried the SIS AGP driver on the ECS site rather than the one from the XP CD. Ran memcheck86, no errors. Tried using boot logging, but without timestamps it's hard to see which driver, if any, is causing the delay.

I could really use some other ideas to try, or some suggestions for isolating whatever driver is causing the delay once the screen goes black.

Thanks,
Rob
 

mechBgon

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Is the onboard NIC enabled? If so, try disabling it. If the onboard sound is enabled, you might disable it also. How about the heatsink, is it seated for sure? You sound experienced, but I'll still ask... is the heatsink on the right direction (the step in the base is over the lever end of the socket)? ;) And have you scanned for viruses? If not, there's a free antivirus software that is getting good remarks over in the Distributed Computing forum, or you can pick up a 30-day trial of Norton AV. Of course, getting the PC to run it long enough to scan...
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Catch22. Good luck, anyway.
 

robdarwin

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May 22, 2002
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Is the onboard NIC enabled? If so, try disabling it. If the onboard sound is enabled, you might disable it also.
I tried disabling just about everything prior to buying the DDR stick but haven't tried it since. I'll do that tonight and see what happens.
How about the heatsink, is it seated for sure?
I believe so, yes. The heat readings on everything seem in line with what they should be.
And have you scanned for viruses?...Of course, getting the PC to run it long enough to scan...
Once the slow boot finishes, the system runs normally. However, I've reinstalled XP Pro on it 4-5 times now and the behavior is consistent from the very first boot onward, even prior to networking being configured, so I don't think a virus has any chance to get started at that point.

Thanks for the reply!
Rob
 

mechBgon

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What does the NIC connect to? I don't have any WindowsXP experience but it could be that WinXP is waiting for the NIC to make a connection and get an IP address before it finishes booting. This can happen with Win98.

If disabling the onboard NIC doesn't help you might also try removing your 3Com and using the onboard NIC in its place as another test. edit: or try with both NICs disabled/removed... maybe that would be a good step.
 

robdarwin

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May 22, 2002
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The 3Com NIC connects to my cable modem, the onboard NIC connects to a 10/100 hub (home network).

I think you're right. I'll have to open it up, remove the 3Com NIC, disable everything onboard, then see if it still does it. I'll post again when I know more.

Rob
 

robdarwin

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May 22, 2002
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Problem solved.

I had a SIIG USB Compact Flash card reader hooked up to the machine. XP assigned it D: during install. When I removed it (or disabled USB), the problem disappeared immediately.

Thanks for your help!

Rob