JVC vs. Toshiba vs. Sony

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Digobick

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For tube TVs I don't think you can beat a Sony. My 27" has survived for 9 years and 3 different moves across state. I also have a 19" Sony Trinitron monitor that my friends drool over. The picture quality on both is pretty great.
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
The spirit of my dead 2 YO top of the line $2,700 Sony 36XBR400 begs you!!

Sonys are crap and nothing like what they used to be. I was an all Sony person but after the way I was treated by them when my TV died, I vowed never to buy their junk again. My experience wasn't an isolated one either. There are tons of stories online about Sony their crappy products and customer service.
I thought they only had a One Year warranty? If so, why should they help you when the warranty has expired? That's what extended service plans are for.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Dulanic
Originally posted by: conjur
Is there not an advanced menu to go in and adjust the geometry on a widescreen set? I'm sure there is.

TV's typically don't have geometry menus... and also its variable... it's always changing as to where the line bend, its it's ALOT more severe then my crappy example.... sections of the line will move up to a full 1" and it causes a big bubble in the line. Their horrible TV's. I thought it was just one of our display models... but we have 3 30"+ a 32" digital 32" HDTV and 30" widescreen HDTV. All 3 do it.

Well, not that are easily accessible. I'd bet you $20 that an ISF tech would have access to a system menu to adjust convergence, geometry, etc. And, for a widescreen set, ISF calibration isn't a bad investment.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Dulanic
Originally posted by: conjur
Is there not an advanced menu to go in and adjust the geometry on a widescreen set? I'm sure there is.

TV's typically don't have geometry menus... and also its variable... it's always changing as to where the line bend, its it's ALOT more severe then my crappy example.... sections of the line will move up to a full 1" and it causes a big bubble in the line. Their horrible TV's. I thought it was just one of our display models... but we have 3 30"+ a 32" digital 32" HDTV and 30" widescreen HDTV. All 3 do it.

Well, not that are easily accessible. I'd bet you $20 that an ISF tech would have access to a system menu to adjust convergence, geometry, etc. And, for a widescreen set, ISF calibration isn't a bad investment.
Mute, 1, 8, 2, power. :)
 

Budmantom

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I paid $550 with tax and a stand for my 36" Sanyo (not flat), some may not care for Sanyo I know I didn't, but when I compared it to a Toshiba and Panasonic it had the best picture hands down.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
I think I'd buy an Apex TV before I bought a sony.

Now *that's* a slam!!

Ouch!

My dad has a 24" Apex in his bedroom. The convergence is AWFUL! And that's being kind!
 

Digobick

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Btw, why not go for an HDTV? You're going to have to get one in a couple years anyway (or buy some kind of an adapter to watch HDTV programming on your non-HDTV television).
 

Dulanic

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Originally posted by: Digobick
For tube TVs I don't think you can beat a Sony. My 27" has survived for 9 years and 3 different moves across state. I also have a 19" Sony Trinitron monitor that my friends drool over. The picture quality on both is pretty great.
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
The spirit of my dead 2 YO top of the line $2,700 Sony 36XBR400 begs you!!

Sonys are crap and nothing like what they used to be. I was an all Sony person but after the way I was treated by them when my TV died, I vowed never to buy their junk again. My experience wasn't an isolated one either. There are tons of stories online about Sony their crappy products and customer service.
I thought they only had a One Year warranty? If so, why should they help you when the warranty has expired? That's what extended service plans are for.

XBR typically has 2 years. Standard tubes are only 90 days now... 1 year parts, but 90 labor.
 

Ornery

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I forgot to mention that the tuner is one place they cut costs. I was very surprised to see how inferior the tuner in my JVC VCR is to my Sony WEGA. A side by side viewing is the only way to really see the difference.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: conjur

Well, not that are easily accessible. I'd bet you $20 that an ISF tech would have access to a system menu to adjust convergence, geometry, etc. And, for a widescreen set, ISF calibration isn't a bad investment.
Mute, 1, 8, 2, power. :)

:beer:
 

dullard

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I didn't read it very closely yet, but I'm pretty sure this months Consumer Reports magazine had Toshiba #1 in ALL of the conventional TV categories. Heck even if you do think Sony is slightly better, is that worth $200 + tax?
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: Digobick
For tube TVs I don't think you can beat a Sony. My 27" has survived for 9 years and 3 different moves across state. I also have a 19" Sony Trinitron monitor that my friends drool over. The picture quality on both is pretty great.
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
The spirit of my dead 2 YO top of the line $2,700 Sony 36XBR400 begs you!!

Sonys are crap and nothing like what they used to be. I was an all Sony person but after the way I was treated by them when my TV died, I vowed never to buy their junk again. My experience wasn't an isolated one either. There are tons of stories online about Sony their crappy products and customer service.
I thought they only had a One Year warranty? If so, why should they help you when the warranty has expired? That's what extended service plans are for.

Why should they help me? Because they produced a defective TV that did not break because of negligence. Many many people with my same TV have suffered the same problem. The problem has to do with a defective D-board (a $500 part) that Sony put in the TV which goes bad because of design defects. Many people have reported an issue with this yet they deny there is a problem.

The same is true for practically all of Sony's DVD players. They tend to go bad after a year to a year and a half. There is a defective transistor in their circuit boards that is exceptionally suseptable to heat failure. If the DVD player is not placed in an open area it will fail from heat related issues in a year.

Just read some of these reviews. and here. I had the even higher end S550 but that one died too the same way.

Regardless of whether or not my warranties expired, you would expect better treatment from a company than "too bad" and "don't believe everything you read on the Internet" especially when you only recently bought the highest end CRT TV they offered. If it's a design defect on Sony's part, fess up and take care of your customers. If they had at least tried to somehow placate me I wouldn't have gone out and spent another $2500 bucks on a Panasonic TV and might have considered a Sony again. But since they didn't and treated me like sh!t, they just lost a big sale and will never see a cent from me again if I can help it.
 

Vic

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When it comes to price/performance and long-term reliability, Toshiba makes the best TV bar none.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: dullard
I didn't read it very closely yet, but I'm pretty sure this months Consumer Reports magazine had Toshiba #1 in ALL of the conventional TV categories. Heck even if you do think Sony is slightly better, is that worth $200 + tax?
It's $100.00 more, and I've seen people pay ungodly amounts of money for stupid cables and speaker wire for the best sound. If the picture of the monitor and tuner are actually better, that may not be such a big premium, considering how many hours it's used.

BTW, since when does anybody on this board give a rat's ass what CR has to say? :confused:
 

m2kewl

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wow, look at the sony haters. i got a 19" (12 yrs old) and 42" (3 yrs old) and have not had one problem.

maybe i'm just lucky...*knocks on wood*
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: m2kewl
wow, look at the sony haters. i got a 19" (12 yrs old) and 42" (3 yrs old) and have not had one problem.

maybe i'm just lucky...*knocks on wood*

I've also got a 7 YO 27" Sony too. The new ones just aren't built the way they used to be. Like I said, I used to be an all Sony guy but no longer.

Can I ask, what model 42" do you have?
 

Lifer

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12 year old 27" sony trinitron (top of line back in the day cost $800) here still running strong.
 

TooOne21

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The JVC Cabinet looks nicer... Wega look awesome.... Toshiba.... eh, not a fancy cabinet.
 

spacejamz

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have Toshiba 57" HD Ready widescreen (nearly two years old), a 32" tube (about 7 years old) and a 20" tube about five years old...

no problems with any of them and the picture on all of them is still great...

TOSHIBA rocks!!!