Justice-- YES -- No??

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Perknose agreeing with me? I wasn't even aware there WAS an eighth seal waiting to be broken.

And excellent question sandorski. What happened to the friendly neighborhood cop?

they dont exist, because most cops at least in my town are very provincial; high school bullies who've lived in the same town all their lives, and just grief everyone they get in contact with because they feel above the law. it also doesn't help that they really DO have to deal with the occasional asshole every now and then, and because of the way those people act to cops, they feel they need to be tough guys to everyone they encounter :thumbsdown:

I think it's the nature of their Job. Not just being a Cop, but what they get exposed to and more specifically the level of the Criminal Element they are exposed to. Ultimately I think this comes back to the War on Drugs and how it has brought about sophisticated violent Criminal Organizations. That might miss the mark though or only be part of it.

Though people will freak when I say it, Michael Moore(still with me? :laugh raised a lot of pertinent, IMO, issues concerning this in Bowling for Columbine. Not directly mind you, but I think it pertains.

 

[Craig234]

One moral of the story is how useful videotape of incidents is at getting to the 'real story' (which is usually beneficial to the police). Police cars shouls all have dash cams.

On the incident, I've only seen a short clip, but resigning seems excessive. The celebrity factor does appear excessive as well.

But we don't have all the facts; we don't know what the officer said about the incident to the police, we don't know if he had a pattern of other problems, etc.

However, incidents like this also seem to get too much attention, when we can't say things like the financial sector's sway over Washington have been understood well yet.

It's another example of the media doing a lousy job, IMO, by giving the story attention, and the public doing a lousy job as citizens in the interest level.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Darkstar757

Originally posted by: JS80
He was in the right IMO. But next time I commit a crime I will make sure to rush to the hospital and claim that my mother is dying.

Dude

Thats soo lame. The guys mom was dying so quit being an asshat.

If he didn't run the red light he would have had plenty of time to see the mother.

Good call. I'm sure that if your mom is in the hospital, literally minutes away from death, you will be going the exact speed limit, coming to a proper stop at all lights, and doing a full 360 degree inspection of your car prior to entering.

Tool.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Darkstar757

Originally posted by: JS80
He was in the right IMO. But next time I commit a crime I will make sure to rush to the hospital and claim that my mother is dying.

Dude

Thats soo lame. The guys mom was dying so quit being an asshat.

If he didn't run the red light he would have had plenty of time to see the mother.

there is no proof to back up your mis-guided statement!

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Perknose agreeing with me? I wasn't even aware there WAS an eighth seal waiting to be broken.

And excellent question sandorski. What happened to the friendly neighborhood cop?

they dont exist, because most cops at least in my town are very provincial; high school bullies who've lived in the same town all their lives, and just grief everyone they get in contact with because they feel above the law. it also doesn't help that they really DO have to deal with the occasional asshole every now and then, and because of the way those people act to cops, they feel they need to be tough guys to everyone they encounter :thumbsdown:

I think it's the nature of their Job. Not just being a Cop, but what they get exposed to and more specifically the level of the Criminal Element they are exposed to. Ultimately I think this comes back to the War on Drugs and how it has brought about sophisticated violent Criminal Organizations. That might miss the mark though or only be part of it.

Though people will freak when I say it, Michael Moore(still with me? :laugh raised a lot of pertinent, IMO, issues concerning this in Bowling for Columbine. Not directly mind you, but I think it pertains.

I had that thought as well, but are the criminals of today really that much worse than those of the past?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Perknose agreeing with me? I wasn't even aware there WAS an eighth seal waiting to be broken.

And excellent question sandorski. What happened to the friendly neighborhood cop?

they dont exist, because most cops at least in my town are very provincial; high school bullies who've lived in the same town all their lives, and just grief everyone they get in contact with because they feel above the law. it also doesn't help that they really DO have to deal with the occasional asshole every now and then, and because of the way those people act to cops, they feel they need to be tough guys to everyone they encounter :thumbsdown:

I think it's the nature of their Job. Not just being a Cop, but what they get exposed to and more specifically the level of the Criminal Element they are exposed to. Ultimately I think this comes back to the War on Drugs and how it has brought about sophisticated violent Criminal Organizations. That might miss the mark though or only be part of it.

Though people will freak when I say it, Michael Moore(still with me? :laugh raised a lot of pertinent, IMO, issues concerning this in Bowling for Columbine. Not directly mind you, but I think it pertains.

I had that thought as well, but are the criminals of today really that much worse than those of the past?

To a certain extent, yes, but there's also the advent of Television and the mass exposure it gives to certain events. Back during Alcohol Prohibition the Mafia was very violent in particular places, but the violence could only be heard rather than seen like today. "Seeing is believing" is the old saying and to a certain extent it is true and when one sees violence on TV(real violence particularly) such as the shootout that happened in Los Angeles(IIRC) with the Bank Robbers in Body Armour and Auto(IIRC) Weapons that influences peoples perceptions. That was an isolated case and most other such incidents are much less violent, but every Cop has that in the back of their minds and knows that it could happen to them.

 

[bctbct]

The system has a way of weeding out bad apples, looks like this one got caught early in what would probably have been a career of mistakes.

I was fine until he started using his power to intimidate the guy.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Darkstar757

Originally posted by: JS80
He was in the right IMO. But next time I commit a crime I will make sure to rush to the hospital and claim that my mother is dying.

Dude

Thats soo lame. The guys mom was dying so quit being an asshat.

if you look thru his other posts on this forum, he is nothing but an asshat on these forums

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: blahblah99

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200..._us/nfl_player_stopped

DALLAS ? A Dallas police officer who detained an NFL player in a hospital parking lot while the player's mother-in-law was dying inside has resigned.

An attorney for Officer Robert Powell said Powell resigned Wednesday over the March 18 incident in which he drew his gun and threatened Houston Texans running back Ryan Moats.

Powell stopped Moats' SUV in the Plano parking lot after the vehicle rolled through a red light. Moats' wife, Tamishia, and other relatives were also in the car.

Moats' mother-in-law died while Powell was ticketing and lecturing him. Powell later issued an apology, which Moats accepted.

The resignation was first reported by Dallas-Fort Worth television station KTVT.

##########################################

Is this the proper outcome of this horrid incident?
Or is the the path of least resistance for the Officer and the DPD?

My opinion is this officer recognized that no matter what he does in the future this is a mark or bemish that will follow him whereever he goes!!

Being an NFL player doesn't entitle anyone to exemptions from the law, but with that being said, the cop should have better judgement.

he didnt ask for any special treatment based on his celebrity status. from the articles I read, he slowed down at the red light, when he saw no one was coming, he went thru. cop didnt catch up to him until he was parking at the hospital, so its not like he ducked into the parking lot hoping to lose the cop. he even asked the cop to just hurry up and give him a ticket so he can go be with his dying mother in law. btw, his father in law was in the car with him also. but the cop jut made them wait there while he searched for warrants and such, even after hospital nurses came out to tell the cop that his mother in law was really dying in there.

the story got media attention mostly because it happened to a semi-celebrity, but im glad it did because this cop obvioously lacks any sense of compassion

 

[seemingly random]

I don't know if I'd call it justice but I think the right things happened. This officer may have some other issues.

 

[Siddhartha]

I saw a TV show concerning how police are trained to be forceful and take control of situations when dealing with the public.

Officer Robert Powell behavior reflects this training. When the person he stopped exhibited less than the optimal cooperation, he increased his level of aggressiveness to the point he threaten taking Moats to jail and pulled his gun.

As I posted before, Moats was lucky that Powell hadn't shot him or tazed him to unconsciousness.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: blahblah99

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200..._us/nfl_player_stopped

DALLAS ? A Dallas police officer who detained an NFL player in a hospital parking lot while the player's mother-in-law was dying inside has resigned.

An attorney for Officer Robert Powell said Powell resigned Wednesday over the March 18 incident in which he drew his gun and threatened Houston Texans running back Ryan Moats.

Powell stopped Moats' SUV in the Plano parking lot after the vehicle rolled through a red light. Moats' wife, Tamishia, and other relatives were also in the car.

Moats' mother-in-law died while Powell was ticketing and lecturing him. Powell later issued an apology, which Moats accepted.

The resignation was first reported by Dallas-Fort Worth television station KTVT.

##########################################

Is this the proper outcome of this horrid incident?
Or is the the path of least resistance for the Officer and the DPD?

My opinion is this officer recognized that no matter what he does in the future this is a mark or bemish that will follow him whereever he goes!!

Being an NFL player doesn't entitle anyone to exemptions from the law, but with that being said, the cop should have better judgement.

he didnt ask for any special treatment based on his celebrity status. from the articles I read, he slowed down at the red light, when he saw no one was coming, he went thru. cop didnt catch up to him until he was parking at the hospital, so its not like he ducked into the parking lot hoping to lose the cop. he even asked the cop to just hurry up and give him a ticket so he can go be with his dying mother in law. btw, his father in law was in the car with him also. but the cop jut made them wait there while he searched for warrants and such, even after hospital nurses came out to tell the cop that his mother in law was really dying in there.

the story got media attention mostly because it happened to a semi-celebrity, but im glad it did because this cop obvioously lacks any sense of compassion

Yeah, it only took a human life in order to weed out this cucksucker. Sad thing is this officer sounded like he got picked on in school so when he became a cop he decided to become a fresh prick because he has some authority. What's even sadder is that this isn't the first time for this pig, he just happened to get caught.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
My opinion is this officer recognized that no matter what he does in the future this is a mark or bemish that will follow him whereever he goes!!

People wouldn't remember him 3 months from now.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: blahblah99

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200..._us/nfl_player_stopped

DALLAS ? A Dallas police officer who detained an NFL player in a hospital parking lot while the player's mother-in-law was dying inside has resigned.

An attorney for Officer Robert Powell said Powell resigned Wednesday over the March 18 incident in which he drew his gun and threatened Houston Texans running back Ryan Moats.

Powell stopped Moats' SUV in the Plano parking lot after the vehicle rolled through a red light. Moats' wife, Tamishia, and other relatives were also in the car.

Moats' mother-in-law died while Powell was ticketing and lecturing him. Powell later issued an apology, which Moats accepted.

The resignation was first reported by Dallas-Fort Worth television station KTVT.

##########################################

Is this the proper outcome of this horrid incident?
Or is the the path of least resistance for the Officer and the DPD?

My opinion is this officer recognized that no matter what he does in the future this is a mark or bemish that will follow him whereever he goes!!

Being an NFL player doesn't entitle anyone to exemptions from the law, but with that being said, the cop should have better judgement.

he didnt ask for any special treatment based on his celebrity status. from the articles I read, he slowed down at the red light, when he saw no one was coming, he went thru. cop didnt catch up to him until he was parking at the hospital, so its not like he ducked into the parking lot hoping to lose the cop. he even asked the cop to just hurry up and give him a ticket so he can go be with his dying mother in law. btw, his father in law was in the car with him also. but the cop jut made them wait there while he searched for warrants and such, even after hospital nurses came out to tell the cop that his mother in law was really dying in there.

the story got media attention mostly because it happened to a semi-celebrity, but im glad it did because this cop obvioously lacks any sense of compassion

Yeah, it only took a human life in order to weed out this cucksucker. Sad thing is this officer sounded like he got picked on in school so when he became a cop he decided to become a fresh prick because he has some authority. What's even sadder is that this isn't the first time for this pig, he just happened to get caught.

Jesus. Got some issues?

 

[JACKDRUID]

he should have followed the guy into the hospital, then give the ticket afterwards.

he should be fired and not allowed back into the force. I do not want my tax money to be wasted on ths guy.

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Darkstar757

Originally posted by: JS80
He was in the right IMO. But next time I commit a crime I will make sure to rush to the hospital and claim that my mother is dying.

Dude

Thats soo lame. The guys mom was dying so quit being an asshat.

If he didn't run the red light he would have had plenty of time to see the mother.

yeah, hopefully you'll be in the same situation as him, and maybe when you can't prioritize your life straight because of your underdeveloped upper brain, you'll miss the passing of your parents like a tool.

 

[Linux23]

Jesus. Got some issues?

Only with scumbag cops. You?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Jesus. Got some issues?

Only with scumbag cops. You?

Pig is so 60/70s. It's general usage was a reference to all cops. I guess you meant it about this one only.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Darkstar757

Originally posted by: JS80
He was in the right IMO. But next time I commit a crime I will make sure to rush to the hospital and claim that my mother is dying.

Dude

Thats soo lame. The guys mom was dying so quit being an asshat.

If he didn't run the red light he would have had plenty of time to see the mother.

yeah and if he would have just pulled over and explained the situation I think the outcome would have been different.

But the point is if this had happen "TO JUST ANYONE" like you or I it wouldn't have gotten printed up in the local paper. It's a bunch of BS just because some asshole is a NFL player BFD

 

[Jiggz]

The cop may have been in the wrong but I still salute him for choosing to be civilized by apologizing and admitting his shortcomings. His resignation is an example for CEO's, politicians and other cops to follow! Tim, Chris, Frank, Nancy and Harry should seriously take note!

 

[seemingly random]

A resignation is not always voluntary. A person may be allowed to resign or else fired.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Darkstar757

Originally posted by: JS80
He was in the right IMO. But next time I commit a crime I will make sure to rush to the hospital and claim that my mother is dying.

Dude

Thats soo lame. The guys mom was dying so quit being an asshat.

If he didn't run the red light he would have had plenty of time to see the mother.

yeah and if he would have just pulled over and explained the situation I think the outcome would have been different.

But the point is if this had happen "TO JUST ANYONE" like you or I it wouldn't have gotten printed up in the local paper. It's a bunch of BS just because some asshole is a NFL player BFD

I highly highly doubt it. Cop holds some guy at gunpoint for running a redlight as his mother is dying and he never gets to see her? No, I'm very sure the cable news bobbleheads would have found time during the day to air this one out. WTF stories relating to nobodies make news all the time, and this one is up there.

Perhaps this guy got the ticket bc he was a rich football player driving a fancy car and the petty cop was jealous and just wanted to rub his power in the dudes face? o_0

What a fucking dick. Thank god his badge and gun was taken away. He could have went w/ the guy to check if he really lying if he was suspicious. A decent human being w. any shred of humanity would have given him an escort. He took something from that guy that can never ever be replaced.