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Dave_5k

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I’m not sure I see the problem here guys, I have lots of friends who pay for things for me. I’m pretty sure it’s common to have friends pay the tuition of one’s nephew. I know I had one friend who paid for my nephews college a couple of decades ago. I have several friends who pay for my trips abroad as well.

Do you guys not have similar experiences? Maybe you guys aren’t rich enough to experience this. I make over $200k a year and this kind of thing is fairly common among people in my economic class.
/s /🙄
And don't forget it is typical to have your friends also make (multiple) $25k cash payments to your spouse, anonymously via a non-profit organization.
 
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Dave_5k

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Here's the link:
https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-private-school-tuition-scotus

I mean come on ... how obvious does this have to get, delivering him briefcases full of cash DURING a SCOTUS hearing on camera?
Well, not too long after you posted that hypothetical, we find out Ginni did in fact get $25k cash payments (anonymized via a non-profit paid to her consulting firm) for "advising" groups with cases going in front of the court... but it was before the hearing, not quite during
 

fskimospy

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He's a billionaire. It's no different than me buying you a beer.

Note: this is a real argument someone made on a different site.
This is sad because we all know it is pure partisanship. Judges shouldn’t get hundreds of thousands of dollars from people.

This isn’t complicated, it’s just that people prefer favorable court rulings over good governance.

Hence why we should expand the court.
 

MrSquished

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This is sad because we all know it is pure partisanship. Judges shouldn’t get hundreds of thousands of dollars from people.

This isn’t complicated, it’s just that people prefer favorable court rulings over good governance.

Hence why we should expand the court.
of course we should. How do you see this happening within the extremely unbalanced institutions we have due to the way our constitutional republic was created in 1776, and with the current political situation between the two major parties? Let's say in the next 4 years, because time is running out. Any sort of realistic timeline that there might be a framework for?
 

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of course we should. How do you see this happening within the extremely unbalanced institutions we have due to the way our constitutional republic was created in 1776, and with the current political situation between the two major parties? Let's say in the next 4 years, because time is running out. Any sort of realistic timeline that there might be a framework for?
Slow boring of hard boards.
 

ivwshane

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of course we should. How do you see this happening within the extremely unbalanced institutions we have due to the way our constitutional republic was created in 1776, and with the current political situation between the two major parties? Let's say in the next 4 years, because time is running out. Any sort of realistic timeline that there might be a framework for?

I’m sure if there was a solution it would be in the works already.

If this doesn’t get addressed, it’ll be a democracy killer.

I’d love to hear the thoughts from our resident righties about this.
 

Pens1566

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I’m sure if there was a solution it would be in the works already.

If this doesn’t get addressed, it’ll be a democracy killer.

I’d love to hear the thoughts from our resident righties about this.

The only "quick" way to fix it is for Thomas/Alito to both retire or die between now and the election. Otherwise, you're possibly looking at '27 or '29 at the earliest. At best.
 

ivwshane

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The only "quick" way to fix it is for Thomas/Alito to both retire or die between now and the election. Otherwise, you're possibly looking at '27 or '29 at the earliest. At best.

I’m getting 2nd amendment vibes from you:p
 
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HomerJS

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The only "quick" way to fix it is for Thomas/Alito to both retire or die between now and the election. Otherwise, you're possibly looking at '27 or '29 at the earliest. At best.
Careful. You are not allowed to suggest this even though posting something from Tucker Carlson wishing for the death of a member of Antifa is cool. I just don't get the rules of this forum.

If you don't 'get' the simple rules of this forum, in this case that members can't wish death on people but that you can quote the ugliness of public figures on the matter, perhaps this forum isn't for you. Feel persecuted? Don't. I should infract you beyond a zero point one, but I won't. Just know the line and toe it, please, which in this case is that the ONLY legitimate venue for discussing moderator actions is in Moderator Discussions. It's really not that hard.

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HomerJS

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And the rot just continues to ooze out from SCOTUS
Ginni Thomas was being funneled money and they tried to hide it.
 
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MrSquished

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I’m sure if there was a solution it would be in the works already.

If this doesn’t get addressed, it’ll be a democracy killer.

I’d love to hear the thoughts from our resident righties about this.

I'd love to hear thoughts from our leftist pseudo intellectuals.
 

Pens1566

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I’m getting 2nd amendment vibes from you:p

Nah, not at all.

Careful. You are not allowed to suggest this even though posting something from Tucker Carlson wishing for the death of a member of Antifa is cool. I just don't get the rules of this forum.

Just stating facts. There is no procedural/political/legislative action that can fix it in any time frame measured in anything less than the next admin/congress.
 
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cytg111

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Excellent answer. You are getting grear at evading basic fundamental questions.
Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards. It takes both passion and perspective. Certainly all historical experience confirms the truth - that man would not have attained the possible unless time and again he had reached out for the impossible. But to do that a man must be a leader, and not only a leader but a hero as well, in a very sober sense of the word. And even those who are neither leaders nor heroes must arm themselves with that steadfastness of heart which can brave even the crumbling of all hopes. This is necessary right now, or else men will not be able to attain even that which is possible today.

- Maximilian Karl Emil Weber

aka defeatism is a hell of a drug
 
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sportage

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Well all I know is.... should any of us here ever become a scotus justice, IT'S PAY DAY TIME!!!!!! WOOT!!!!
 
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MrSquished

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Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards. It takes both passion and perspective. Certainly all historical experience confirms the truth - that man would not have attained the possible unless time and again he had reached out for the impossible. But to do that a man must be a leader, and not only a leader but a hero as well, in a very sober sense of the word. And even those who are neither leaders nor heroes must arm themselves with that steadfastness of heart which can brave even the crumbling of all hopes. This is necessary right now, or else men will not be able to attain even that which is possible today.

- Maximilian Karl Emil Weber

aka defeatism is a hell of a drug

I never admitted defeat. At all. So it's a pointless point. I'm being pragmatic about how to understand the situation and how to approach it, but if people refuse to acknowledge where we are and have any sort of plan, then, well, they are just morons. If trying to understand the enemy, the opponent, and the situation we are in is defeatism, because people are too chickenshit to back up their beliefs and answer simple questions, then man, that is pathetic.

That pseudo intellectual refuses to answer basic questions about things. It's just a bad look.
 
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Zorba

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I never admitted defeat. At all. So it's a pointless point. I'm being pragmatic about how to understand the situation and how to approach it, but if people refuse to acknowledge where we are and have any sort of plan, then, well, they are just morons. If trying to understand the enemy, the opponent, and the situation we are in is defeatism, because people are too chickenshit to back up their beliefs and answer simple questions, then man, that is pathetic.

That pseudo intellectual refuses to answer basic questions about things. It's just a bad look.
What is your idea? More civil war fantasies?

The FBI should start looking into this shit now. Court expansion, term limits, and ethics reform should happen, but that depends on winning big in a rigged system. Other than trying to win in that system there isn't much else to do except bitch.
 
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ivwshane

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What is your idea? More civil war fantasies?

The FBI should start looking into this shit now. Court expansion, term limits, and ethics reform should happen, but that depends on winning big in a rigged system. Other than trying to win in that system there isn't much else to do except bitch.

So continue the slide then? How long should we let our democracy crater until extreme options are put on the table?

We either need real, workable solutions or accept our fate, or fight. How much more rigging are you willing to accept before enough is enough?
 

MrSquished

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What is your idea? More civil war fantasies?

The FBI should start looking into this shit now. Court expansion, term limits, and ethics reform should happen, but that depends on winning big in a rigged system. Other than trying to win in that system there isn't much else to do except bitch.

When did I ever fantasize about a civil war? Should be super easy to quote me if I'm fantasizing about it.

I'm trying to wonder if some of you people really understand English sometimes.
 

ivwshane

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When did I ever fantasize about a civil war? Should be super easy to quote me if I'm fantasizing about it.

I'm trying to wonder if some of you people really understand English sometimes.

They assume that’s what you are alluding to because even they know where this is headed and they know that nothing can be done to change anything. It’s an uncomfortable reality that we as a country are going to have to deal with.
 

MrSquished

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They assume that’s what you are alluding to because even they know where this is headed and they know that nothing can be done to change anything. It’s an uncomfortable reality that we as a country are going to have to deal with.

If enough Democrats understood the situation and at least prepared for it by getting, for example, all the blue state governors, senators and Congress people on the same page, state legislators, or as many as possible, on what to do when this line is crossed and when this line is crossed, maybe we could avoid a civil war. Otherwise it's all being reactionary and knee jerk when you aren't prepared.

But these guys want to live in an alternate reality. It's pretty sad, but it definitely explains history how populations were so unprepared because the so-called smartest people in the room were actually really fucking stupid.