Justice Thomas accepted millions in gifts from right wing mega donor

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Moonbeam

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You just haven't read the right tea leaves to really understand what the founding fathers believed and why that impacts the disclosures that Justice Thomas feels like he doesn't have to make.
I thought a bunch of dead justices said he didn’t need to report such trivial matters, but perhaps I’m just not keeping up with the news. Was that phony excuse blown?
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Dave_5k

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I thought a bunch of dead justices said he didn’t need to report such trivial matters, but perhaps I’m just not keeping up with the news. Was that phony excuse blown?
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That was his last defense, Thomas might need to upgrade to "God told him" that he didn't need to report such trivial matters.

Although he is getting cover from almost all Republican politicians now stating every "justice" is just as corrupt, so therefore it is not a problem... (disregard the standard Republican non-sequitur)
 
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fskimospy

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That was his last defense, Thomas might need to upgrade to "God told him" that he didn't need to report such trivial matters.

Although he is getting cover from almost all Republican politicians now stating every "justice" is just as corrupt, so therefore it is not a problem... (disregard the standard Republican non-sequitur)
Interestingly, Thomas used to report these things until he got bad press about them so then he just stopped. This means he clearly knew his ethical obligations and chose to ignore them.
 

HomerJS

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That was his last defense, Thomas might need to upgrade to "God told him" that he didn't need to report such trivial matters.

Although he is getting cover from almost all Republican politicians now stating every "justice" is just as corrupt, so therefore it is not a problem... (disregard the standard Republican non-sequitur)
Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagen should grant an interview together and answer questions from their POV.
 

Motostu

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I don't ask much. I just want to see the same consequences for them that I would face in a similar situation (in my case, say a contractor was giving me perks). At a minimum I would lose my job.

The more I see of this shit the angrier I get. Maybe I should stop paying attention and just be blissfully ignorant.
 

Moonbeam

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Interestingly, Thomas used to report these things until he got bad press about them so then he just stopped. This means he clearly knew his ethical obligations and chose to ignore them.
You don’t think he deserves special leniency for the fact that Democrats gave him such a raw deal during his hearings. I mean, after selling out your race, your moral compass and personal integrity to climb the social order all the way to honored Supreme Court Justice, a guy should deserve a few perks, no?
 

fskimospy

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You don’t think he deserves special leniency for the fact that Democrats gave him such a raw deal during his hearings. I mean, after selling out your race, your moral compass and personal integrity to climb the social order all the way to honored Supreme Court Justice, a guy should deserve a few perks, no?
Only seems fair that if people are mean to you that ethical guidelines should no longer apply to your work.
 

cytg111

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I don't ask much. I just want to see the same consequences for them that I would face in a similar situation (in my case, say a contractor was giving me perks). At a minimum I would lose my job.

The more I see of this shit the angrier I get. Maybe I should stop paying attention and just be blissfully ignorant.
Dude. Start criming. Dont get mad, get even.
 
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ivwshane

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If Dems had the political will, can they expand the court right now? Or does that require a majority in the house? Or even a super majority in either chamber?

Because if the Dems can expand the court and are afraid to, at the very least they could threaten to expand it if the republicans don’t go along with impeaching Thomas.
 

Moonbeam

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Only seems fair that if people are mean to you that ethical guidelines should no longer apply to your work.
Poor Uncle Thomas was taught by his Grandfather to deny that race exists. In this way he was able to deny himself intellectually, but intellect does not change what we feel. In Africa you can find Black people who have no awareness of race and are perfect in their own skin, but Thomas lives by presence that being Black in America is irrelevant. What gets repressed in him, therefore, is self contempt over his own race even though it really does not exist as in the Africans I mentioned. My opinion.
 

MrSquished

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Can anyone who says the answer is to pack the court, like it's going to happen, please tell us where they think we stand right now on the likelihood on packing the court, and how you see this panning out in the next 4-8 years if not now?
 

Fenixgoon

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Can anyone who says the answer is to pack the court, like it's going to happen, please tell us where they think we stand right now on the likelihood on packing the court, and how you see this panning out in the next 4-8 years if not now?
I don't think any of us really expect it to happen. It's just what could be reasonably achievable.
 
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MrSquished

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I don't think any of us really expect it to happen. It's just what could be reasonably achievable.

Believe me I'd love to see it happen as well. I just don't see it as reasonably achievable until the Dems show me more, and within this highly fucked up system institutionally, which is fucked by the constitution.
 

kage69

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Like I said, tip of the iceberg. This motherfucker right here...

Crow paid the tuition for Uncle Tom's grandnephew to go to a private school

"Tuition at the boarding school ran more than $6,000 a month. But Thomas did not cover the bill. A bank statement for the school from July 2009, buried in unrelated court filings, shows the source of Martin’s tuition payment for that month: the company of billionaire real estate magnate Harlan Crow."

"Thomas did not report the tuition payments from Crow on his annual financial disclosures. Several years earlier, Thomas disclosed a gift of $5,000 for Martin’s education from another friend. It is not clear why he reported that payment but not Crow’s."

Edit, shit sorry Pens
 
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sportage

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can't see anything there, but I'm guessing this is about Crow paying for Thomas's adoptive son's private boarding school tuition of about several $100k?

I don't get it. Don't these judges get paid a salary for being a justice?
You'd think poor Clarence Thomas sells pencils on street corners and lives in a box under a bridge.
What...T...F is it with these guys???

Are these justices simply too cheap to spend their own money? Or, is it the perception of upholding the law vs the thrill of breaking the law? Is it some adrenaline rush? The rush from doing something adverse to what a justice is expected to do?
Like the manly Marlboro man getting his kicks from wearing pink panties under his bluejeans? Break the law and no one will ever suspect... right Clarence? Is that it, Clarence? Are you fucked up in the brain, Clarence? Is this what Anita Hill was trying to warn us about?
Next you'll be telling me all of these republican justices are complete psychopaths.

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Dave_5k

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And more corruption comes out of the woodwork on Clarence via "Ginni" - actual cash payments by those with business before the court, with attempt to hide...
Alternate link with no pay-wall:
"Conservative judicial activist Leonard Leo arranged for the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to be paid tens of thousands of dollars for consulting work just over a decade ago, specifying that her name be left off billing paperwork, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post.
In January 2012, Leo instructed the GOP pollster Kellyanne Conway to bill a nonprofit group called the Judicial Education Project and use that money to pay Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the documents show. The same year, the Judicial Education Project filed a brief to the Supreme Court in a landmark voting rights case."
 
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And the hole keeps getting deeper: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/05/04/leonard-leo-clarence-ginni-thomas-conway/

Conservative judicial activist Leonard Leo arranged for the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to be paid tens of thousands of dollars for consulting work just over a decade ago, specifying that her name be left off billing paperwork, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post.

In January 2012, Leo instructed the GOP pollster Kellyanne Conway to bill a nonprofit group called the Judicial Education Project and use that money to pay Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the documents show. The same year, the Judicial Education Project filed a brief to the Supreme Court in a landmark voting rights case.

Leo, an adviser to the Judicial Education Project and a key figure in a network of nonprofits that has worked to support the nominations of conservative judges, told Conway that he wanted her to “give” Ginni Thomas “another $25K,” the documents show. He emphasized that the paperwork should have “No mention of Ginni, of course.”
 
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ivwshane

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I’m not sure I see the problem here guys, I have lots of friends who pay for things for me. I’m pretty sure it’s common to have friends pay the tuition of one’s nephew. I know I had one friend who paid for my nephews college a couple of decades ago. I have several friends who pay for my trips abroad as well.

Do you guys not have similar experiences? Maybe you guys aren’t rich enough to experience this. I make over $200k a year and this kind of thing is fairly common among people in my economic class.










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