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SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.
but the most you would ever need to hit anyone is three times.
How do you know that, and how do you know if the cops knew how many bullets were hitting him?

It is the "two in the chest one in the head" philosophy. People don't get up after that.
You're deluded. Three reasons why:

1) It's possible to get shot in the chest twice and in the head once and still present a threat.
2) It's difficult to shoot like that in all situations. I do not believe it is feasible to hold all officers to such a standard of marksmanship.
3) If the subject is wearing body armor, you can drop them with headshots or massive blood loss. The first requires extraordinary accuracy, while the second requires an extraordinary amount of bullet wounds.


Grazing shots? If it is in the triangle, I don't see it happening.
 

andylawcc

Lifer
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am I the only with Atheus? Yes, the cop killer has done wrong, but the cops do not need to become less of human and do a target practice on his sorry asss.

in any case, we do not know what exactly happened inside. With the benefit of the doubt I would say the cops were playing it safe and make sure the suspect is dead.
 

imported_vr6

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the reports said he was

Ten SWAT officers surrounded Freeland on Friday as he hid beneath brush and a fallen tree in a rural area. Authorities say he raised the gun belonging to the deputy he had killed, prompting nine officers to fire.

He was basically hiding behind a bunker. It is near impossible to tell if your shot has landed if the suspect was under a tree and beneath a bush. However the suspect can clearly see the officers.

ever play paintball? you fire until u see someone raise their gun in the air. In this case, your fire until your are 110% certain the suspect is dead.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Grazing shots? If it is in the triangle, I don't see it happening.
So now you're an expert on the physiological effects of ballistic trauma? Fine, outside the triangle, as you say.

EDIT: I don't know what guns they were using.
 

Praxis1452

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he's dead. It doesn't really matter if the mutilate it and string it up for target practice.
 

BrownTown

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He was hidding in tall brush, so they probably couldnt see him and when he pulled the gun on one of them they all jsut started shooting into the brush to make sure. I am just slightly disturbed by the fact that it is pretty clear most of these guys had it in their heads that they were gonna go get revenge for him killing a cop. But, the guy had a gun, was hiding in the brush and was a known cop killer, if i were in that situation I wouldnt be the guy to try to handcuff the guy, so shooting is pretty much the only option unless he turns himself in.
 

Howard

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Praxis1452
he's dead. It doesn't really matter if the mutilate it and string it up for target practice.
Closed casket funeral ftw
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.
but the most you would ever need to hit anyone is three times.
How do you know that, and how do you know if the cops knew how many bullets were hitting him?

It is the "two in the chest one in the head" philosophy. People don't get up after that. Also, the cops HAD to have a rough idea of how many shots hit while they were firing. If they didn't, then they were not in control.

HAH! You try firing a gun in that type of situation and see how accurate you are. Contrary to popular belief, police officers are not expert marksman. Sure, they go through a decent amount of training at the range, but there is NO type of training that will prepare you for being confronted with an armed and moving suspect.

As for Atheus, if my son was a cop killer, I'd be absolutely disgraced. He would've got what he deserved by these cops unloading into him.

So many people are clueless when it comes to guns. The guy was in a hole under a fallen tree, the cops were probably firing automatic weapons (or semi-autos at a fast pace) in a tense situation. I was amazed that they hit him SO MANY times, I thought 15-20 tops.
 

mugs

Lifer
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And stop this "two in the chest, one in the head" nonsense. This isn't a movie. And cops aren't supposed to TRY to kill suspects, so they'd never do something like that anyway.
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

It is the "two in the chest one in the head" philosophy. People don't get up after that. Also, the cops HAD to have a rough idea of how many shots hit while they were firing. If they didn't, then they were not in control.

HAH! You try firing a gun in that type of situation and see how accurate you are. Contrary to popular belief, police officers are not expert marksman. Sure, they go through a decent amount of training at the range, but there is NO type of training that will prepare you for being confronted with an armed and moving suspect.

As for Atheus, if my son was a cop killer, I'd be absolutely disgraced. He would've got what he deserved by these cops unloading into him.

So many people are clueless when it comes to guns. The guy was in a hole under a fallen tree, the cops were probably firing automatic weapons (or semi-autos at a fast pace) in a tense situation. I was amazed that they hit him SO MANY times, I thought 15-20 tops.

Yep. Guy was heavily covered in a bunker, with probably short jerky movements if he fired at police officers.

Did it even say at what distance he was from the officers?