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just watched "no country for old men"... hated it...

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Originally posted by: DJFuji
So i just watched the "critically acclaimed" No Country for Old Men...which i believe won 4 oscars and countless other awards...

And i hated it.

Awful.

It reminded me of that style of "art" where you throw a bucket of paint at a canvas and the resulting splash is somehow a stroke of genius. But remember, if you disagree at all, it's because "you lack sophistication and don't know how to appreciate true art."

It lacked closure or any sense of an ending, the theme of the movie was outright retarded, and I'm pretty sure most of the "deep metaphors" are really just people unnecessarily reading into things.

It's like trying to justify "blade" as a deep movie:

"You didn't like blade?? That's because you have to read into the symbolism and analogies created by the sword and the vampires. Why does blade kill with a sword and not an atom bomb? Because the SWORD represents PURITY and VENGEANCE and an atom bomb represents DEATH and HIROSHIMA, and since the VAMPIRES are not JAPANESE, he chooses the sword."

It shouldn't take 10 viewings of a movie and reading an in-depth analysis in order to figure out who the main fucking character is. I'm watching a movie to ENJOY myself, not to write a college paper.
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:disgust:

*Sigh* Didn't like it fine. Why make a post bitching about it? Personally I like a movie that makes me think. I watch movies to be entertained too but a large part of that entertainment is to be had in watching a well directed and acted movie ABOUT SOMETHING. If you have to watch the movie 10 times to get the gist of it you are doing it wrong. I loved the movie but only watched it once. Sure there is metaphor and symbolism (as there is in any work of art) but nothing I nor anyone else that watched it didn't pick up in one viewing. Sure repeat viewings might help to more fully enjoy it but that's the case with any piece of well made art.

Don't like this kinds of thing? Fine, again why post bitching about it? Go watch Underworld: Rise of the Lycans then and stop posting.
 
Originally posted by: Jessica69
You know....some of the best movies are ambiguous on purpose, just to make you speculate, to think, to spark some degree of imagination in the viewer.

Obviously, this is lost on you and well beyond your comprehension.

So, go back and immerse yourself in the Transformer, Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny-type movies--the ones that are predictable, special effects-fests, and are just cotton candy for the brain--and have a happy, simple life.
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I used to like movies that were ambiguous on purpose. I really enjoyed filling in the blanks with my own imagination. Sometimes I still do enjoy that, but not in the same way I once did. I like movies in which there are clues as to what the creator is driving at. It doesn't have to be obvious, but I like to think that what I'm coming up with jives with what the creator was intending. I want to feel that I'm not just spinning off into some universe of my own imagining, but following the story given to it's inevitable conclusion, regardless of whether that conclusion was explicitly spelled out. A movie that leaves blanks that you can fill in with reasonable certainty of being "correct" is far superior to a movie that leaves blanks because the creator couldn't figure out anything to put in them.

I get the strong sense in a lot of movies lately that it's laziness/lack of imagination that creates most of the blank spots, and counting on the artsy "ambiguity factor" that lets them get away with it. Most of all, I like a movie that explains EVERYTHING in all its complex and fascinating detail. I want to marvel at the stunning coherence and completeness of the artist's vision rather than picking up his slack for him.

BTW I liked No Country for Old Men and don't think my gripes apply to it, but I thought this was something that needed to be said.
 
I didnt like it in the beginning because I thought it was unnecessarily cruel. But along the way I did get wrapped up in the story and found the suspense of who would fall victim to that cruelty to be intense. In the end, I gave it a :thumbsup:
 
My biggest problem is that there's nothing to think/imagine about in this movie, all of that could be told has been said and done, unless you count the ending that left possibility for No Country for Old Men 2 - Cattle Gun Holocaust. It's intense, but it's like a rollercoaster ride that you don't miss. Cloverfield was similarly intense, but at least you get the fun of finding out pieces of the puzzle in the movie from blogs after you watch it.
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I liked it... GF hated it...

That automatically makes it an instant classic.
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:laugh: My GF had her eyes closed most of the time in the theater.

Fantastic flick. Still like TWBB more.

And yeah, it does say something about you if you prefer Blade to a film like NCfOM. And it's not a good thing at all...
 
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
WTF are you talking about? The movie was good because it was totally badass and featured some good performances. There was very little in the movie that you had to take abstractly or symbolically to enjoy. It's a crime thriller for fuck's sake.
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Are you kidding me? The entire movie was abstract and symbolic. Major events in the plot of the movie are still being debated. In fact, if there's an FAQ about the movie on imdb, it's because a LOT of people are f'in confused after watching it.
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No, it's because the majority of the members at IMDB aren't very bright, or experienced with diverse types of film. Shit, just look at the top-ranked films over there. Sure, Shawshank is a really good movie; best ever? Fuck no. Barely top 100, easily.

TDK in the top 5 rated? seriously. can't really judge film quality based on IMDB membership opinions.
 
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
Originally posted by: Jessica69
You know....some of the best movies are ambiguous on purpose, just to make you speculate, to think, to spark some degree of imagination in the viewer.

Obviously, this is lost on you and well beyond your comprehension.

So, go back and immerse yourself in the Transformer, Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny-type movies--the ones that are predictable, special effects-fests, and are just cotton candy for the brain--and have a happy, simple life.
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so enjoying "sophisticated/elitist" movies make you better than everyone else? Getting that epiphany on what the movie is actually representing gives you orgasms?
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I honestly think this is why so many people "loved" the movie. Not because they actually left the theater actually appreciating it, but because they want to either feel superior to everyone else who "didnt appreciate it," or because they didn't want to feel unsophisticated for admitting that they don't like movies that take 10 viewings to understand.

Kinda like the people who left "The 6th sense" saying "i knew it all along."
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You suck at generalizing, or diversifying your viewing habits.

Most people like it b/c they are big fans of the Coen Brothers, and this is easily their best work (Lebowski being a close second--very different reasons, of course).

No one wants to like a movie just to sound sophisticated. How freaking retarded is that?
 
I liked the movie. Chigurh was extremely intense and basically kept me on the edge of my seat the whole movie. Also...I didn't know you could have a silenced shotgun before the movie, which makes it even more awesome.
 
*#*#*#SPOILER#*#*#*#*#

i hated it as well. it had me until they skipped the scene where (james? josh?) brolin's character was killed. that just RUINED it for me. all the stupid shit with tommy lee jones reflecting about how the world has moved on without him or whatever seemed secondary. the story focused on the buildup to this "showdown" between the two main characters... and then all of a sudden NOPE turns out that was all filler to help you understand the angst of a lawman who cant cope with the evils of the world today...

and if im getting parts wrong, well, i only watched it once.

wow, didnt know this was a cohen bros movie. liked lebowski, and recently burn after reading.
 
Originally posted by: DJFuji
So i just watched the "critically acclaimed" No Country for Old Men...which i believe won 4 oscars and countless other awards...

And i hated it.

Awful.

It reminded me of that style of "art" where you throw a bucket of paint at a canvas and the resulting splash is somehow a stroke of genius. But remember, if you disagree at all, it's because "you lack sophistication and don't know how to appreciate true art."

It lacked closure or any sense of an ending, the theme of the movie was outright retarded, and I'm pretty sure most of the "deep metaphors" are really just people unnecessarily reading into things.

It's like trying to justify "blade" as a deep movie:

"You didn't like blade?? That's because you have to read into the symbolism and analogies created by the sword and the vampires. Why does blade kill with a sword and not an atom bomb? Because the SWORD represents PURITY and VENGEANCE and an atom bomb represents DEATH and HIROSHIMA, and since the VAMPIRES are not JAPANESE, he chooses the sword."

It shouldn't take 10 viewings of a movie and reading an in-depth analysis in order to figure out who the main fucking character is. I'm watching a movie to ENJOY myself, not to write a college paper.
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"Deep symbolism" is not what the Cohen Brothers are all about. As a long-time Cohen fan, I, too, felt cheated after I finishednviewing it. Then, I asked myself: What's more important? The ending or the entertainment? It turned out that I was rivetted the entire way, which only contributed to the "cheated" feeling I felt, but at least I was entertained (I thought it was going somewhere).
 
"Closure" is bullshit. There is no such thing.

The movie was brilliant for the fact that it did not give you a fairy tale ending, but a realistic one. One we most often face: No "closure" at all.

Feel cheated? Sure, and you will most of your life if you expect "closure" for everything.
 
Originally posted by: Jessica69
So, go back and immerse yourself in the Transformer, Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny-type movies--the ones that are predictable, special effects-fests, and are just cotton candy for the brain--and have a happy, simple life.
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I am thinking you are not familiar with either Bugs Bunny or Tom and Jerry.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
"Closure" is bullshit. There is no such thing.

The movie was brilliant for the fact that it did not give you a fairy tale ending, but a realistic one. One we most often face: No "closure" at all.

Feel cheated? Sure, and you will most of your life if you expect "closure" for everything.
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:thumbsup:

but damn, you must be feeling bitter right now. don't worry; me too 🙁
 
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