Just Watched Atlantis

lyric

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I just came back from watching Atlantis. I thought it was a really good film. The artwork was REALLY well done. I think that's what made the movie so great. This movie isn't exactly your typical Disney film with little cutesy animals running around. There's actually none of that in this film. Although there were a lot of children in the theaters (annoying, might I add), this movie is actually more for the older audience. It's a lot more violent than usual for a Disney film. The story line was good, but they took a lot of short cuts in it. This is one of the movies that could be better if it was longer. In general, it's one of the best Disney movies I've seen in a while and I will definitely have to say that about the artwork. A lot of it is anime/manga based, so that made it really cool.

You guys should all go check it out when you get the chance. I enjoyed myself. =)
 

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Im honouring my personal boycott against Disney. They will not recieve another penny from me, until they stop raping classics. I hate Disney with a passion.
 

kami

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<< They will not recieve another penny from me, until they stop raping classics. >>


raping what classics? please elaborate..it sounds dumb when you spew that stuff w/out explanations

IMO, the best disney animated film is lion king. damn that rules :)
 

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Hmm how about Atlantis for example.
How about The Emporer's New Groove
How about the Search for El Dorado
How about Alice in Wonderland
How about Beauty and the Beast
How about Aladdin

Need I go on?

I dont really want to debate about it, Im just stating my opinion.
 
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I can't stand Disney because the copy others work. The Lion King is not a Disney original. Check out a Japanese animated movie called Kimba the White Lion. It's quit amazing how many similarities there are.
Lead role Kimba. Lion King, oh lets change the first letter, no one will know the difference between Kimba and Simba.

I hope Disney dies a horrible death.
 

Gunbuster

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I liked the voice actors, pretty good job all around.

Total rip of Gianax's Nadia
 

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Actually, if you study shakespeare, many Disney movies are loosly based on them. Take &quot;The Lion King&quot; for example, it's very very similar in plot to Hamlet. Aladdin is very similar to Othello.

Search for El Dorado wasn't a Disney film, was it? I thought that was dreamworks? As far as &quot;Alice in Wonderland&quot; is concerned, I always thought they made it clear that it was an adeptation of the book. Wasnt that one that Walt Disney himself worked on? Those older Disney movies are GREAT. Robin Hood, Sword in the Stone, 101 Dalmations, they were great.
 

lyric

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You are to say that you have watched all of the Disney films and never liked a single one? You are to say that you don't like any of their work, even their artwork? I doubt that. So what if they're ripped off of something else? As long as it's good, people watch it and enjoy it then good for them. Why don't you actually pay more attention to the film instead of &quot;Disney&quot; itself? Disney is not just in the cartoon business either. They own Miramax films and a whole bunch of others. How many of you have seen &quot;Toy Story&quot;? That was a Disney.

Then again, we're all entitled to our own opinions. So what you think is fine. I just find it hard to believe that you hate everything that Disney has done.
 

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I hate disney as a company, and for their repeated lack of orininality and their &quot;disney-ning&quot; up of classics. Go rent the original &quot;Hunch Back of Notre Dame&quot; and you tell me the differences. Theres always a bloody happy ending in the disney. You wont see Quasi pouring hot oil on the villagers in the disney version, of course not! Lets just re-write history while we are at it.

I turn to RATM for the answer:

&quot;Disney bought the fantasies and the piles of eyes...ABC's new thrillride, trials and lies&quot;.


Walt Disney would despise what his company has become.
 

kami

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<< I hate disney as a company, and for their repeated lack of orininality and their &quot;disney-ning&quot; up of classics. Go rent the original &quot;Hunch Back of Notre Dame&quot; and you tell me the differences. Theres always a bloody happy ending in the disney. >>


you take life waaaaay too seriously. Disney makes movies for children and families, not for people like yourself.
One could say they are taking classics and presenting them to a wider audience, even if it isn't exactly like the original. Disney is responsible for making some great films. You don't have to like the films, but you make them sound evil :confused:
 

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<< I hate disney as a company, and for their repeated lack of orininality and their &quot;disney-ning&quot; up of classics. Go rent the original &quot;Hunch Back of Notre Dame&quot; and you tell me the differences. Theres always a bloody happy ending in the disney. You wont see Quasi pouring hot oil on the villagers in the disney version, of course not! Lets just re-write history while we are at it.

I turn to RATM for the answer:

&quot;Disney bought the fantasies and the piles of eyes...ABC's new thrillride, trials and lies&quot;.


Walt Disney would despise what his company has become.
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Yeah, they do that to make things a little more interesting. Disney is made for children to watch and sometimes, adults just find it entertaining as well. Do you think they're actually gonna show extreme violence to children? I don't think so. If you wanna know about the real history of such things, go read a book or watch a documentary. These things aren't meant to give you the whole truth. They're made to make it entertaining, since it's mainly focused on children.
 

lyric

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So you hate Disney as a company in general. Then stop watching films. Most companies are owned by Disney mind you.
 

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I find it a little strange that in about 95% of disney animated films the main characters mother is dead or missing
 

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<< If you wanna know about the real history of such things, go read a book or watch a documentary. These things aren't meant to give you the whole truth. They're made to make it entertaining, since it's mainly focused on children. >>



So its ok to lie to your kids? That makes sense. Why remake a classic if you are going to change the truth? It doesnt make logical sense at all. Kids are growing up thinking everything is gonna be ok, and that bad things can never happen. I dont buy that at all, I think twisting the truth to make it entertaining is borderline brainwashing. Call me a nutcase if you want, but its sad really.

As to your other comment.. Dont watch films at all? Theres a perfectly logical thing to say. I should just stop watching movies becase I dont like one company? Yeah ok... Just because they OWN the company doesnt mean they have creative SAY in the company. Most of the films I enjoy are indepenent movies, because they know how to make a film.
 

lyric

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That's true. Actually, in almost all of the films, you never see the mother or if you do, it's only for like a minute. I guess they do that to make it more dramatic. Most of the Disney's have girls as their main characters as you can see in Little Mermaid, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, etc. They probably do that just so that they emphasize that these woman can be strong with self confidence, etc without their mothers and the influence of fathers and such. I don't know. I can't really come around to explain it well.
 

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<< I hate disney as a company, and for their repeated lack of orininality and their &quot;disney-ning&quot; up of classics. Go rent the original &quot;Hunch Back of Notre Dame&quot; and you tell me the differences. Theres always a bloody happy ending in the disney. You wont see Quasi pouring hot oil on the villagers in the disney version, of course not! Lets just re-write history while we are at it.

I turn to RATM for the answer:

&quot;Disney bought the fantasies and the piles of eyes...ABC's new thrillride, trials and lies&quot;.


Walt Disney would despise what his company has become.
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They're cartoons for pete's sake. Their sole purpose is for entertainment. Who gives a flying whoop if they change the ending of The hunch back of notre dame so that quasimodo doesn't burn the villagers. How many cartoons (movies here not tv shows) can you name that actually have a sad or &quot;un-happy&quot; ending? I can understand it when it's a movie (like The Empire Strikes Back), but geez man, these movies are marketed towards little kids here.

Let me ask you something, did you like the movies The Patriot, Pearl Harbor, U-571, Titanic, and Braveheart? Each and every one of those movies was fudged up just a little bit to make it more appealing to the audience.

I'm not trying to start some huge argument with you here, but I know 2 other people that feel the same way you do. When I go to movies I go to be entertained, I don't go and disect every minute of the movie to see what's wrong with it.
 

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<<
Let me ask you something, did you like the movies The Patriot, Pearl Harbor, U-571, Titanic, and Braveheart? Each and every one of those movies was fudged up just a little bit to make it more appealing to the audience.

I'm not trying to start some huge argument with you here, but I know 2 other people that feel the same way you do. When I go to movies I go to be entertained, I don't go and disect every minute of the movie to see what's wrong with it.
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No I disliked all of those &quot;hollywood trash&quot; films. Braveheart was ok. Ill give it that. I go to movies to be entertained yes, as you do, but Id rather spend money on films that make you think, then to pay 8 dollars to see a talking llama. Maybe our film tastes differ.
 

lyric

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<< So its ok to lie to your kids? That makes sense. Why remake a classic if you are going to change the truth? >>



No, I'm not saying that we should lie to the children, but why expose them to such voilence? I don't think it's necessary. If you want them to know the whole &quot;history&quot; of something, then go read a book and tell them yourself about it. Like someone said earlier, these films are made for children and family to watch. It's job is to entertain others. In most of these films, there's actually a lot of meaning to it. Morals, symbolism (Lion King has major symbolism). Kids don't pay enough attention to dig out these things, since it's very deep. Anyway, kids don't always pay attention to the story line as much as adults do. They just watch it because it's a cartoon. They enjoy this type of stuff.
 

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Its obvious we disagree, so its pointless to argue any further.
I just dont dig the fact that kids grow up thinking everything has a happy ending. Life is too short to make everything artificial.
 

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I just saw it, also. It was very enjoyable. It wasn't a musical, which I liked about it and people died in the battles. That's a little different for Disney. Mulan had a destoyed villiage, in this one you got to see subs blow up with passengers screaming right before the explosions.

In other words: nothing morethan is on TV. Less, actually.

There were a lot of funny parts. I can see myself buying it or at least renting it.