Just wanted to say thanks to all who buy BFG 5900's and try to flash to 5900U/5950.

[Defector]

RMA to BFG.

I don't trust GAMEVE (since it looks like others have RMA'd to them and just received another faulty item, losing out on postage once more).

BFG deserve a chance, since their customer support on the phone seemed good.

Still will be without PC for at least 2 weeks though.

 

[Keysplayr]

Why am I in denial for being ready to junk my card if the flash failed? Nothing else better to say I guess.

Because its not believable.


Congratulations on taking action, I dont blame you, which was th epoint of my reply to begin with, blame GameVE, not the flashers.

Thanks.


Yes, it was worth risking, because now it works better than ever.

You dont get it, and you aren't going to get it.


I will be reporting you to the moderators for the vulgar language, thanks.

You were a really angry child weren't you. Genius. That was my way of saying, " I'm sorry you paid that much for a video card." and "You were really dumb for paying that much for a video card." But then money might not be an issue for you. If so, congrats.


Yes, it is QUITE the same risk, tell your manufacturer that YOU overclocked your card AT ALL, whether it be coolbits, BIOS flashing, or what have you, and your warranty is VOID.

You still dont get it, and you aren't going to get it. (Is there an echo in here?)


I have flashed a motherboard, SUCCESSFULLY, from a different make and model, and even modified the BIOS. In fact it was an EpOX 8KHA+.

Different chipset? If so, what mental capacity of yours made you do that?


Yes I AM saying you have NO legitimate gripe on this meggase board, because your gripe is against someone you dont know, and evidence you dont know about. WHo's to say the video card wasnt dead from the factory? You have NO evidence someone flashed that BIOS.

Why did you say I have no evidence? Did you miss it? Yes, you did. Your a skimmer aren't you?

Blame GameVE, not the flashers. GameBVE should have sent it back to the manufacturer, not send it to you. When you inserted the card and turned it on, did it say "This Video card has a failed flash" on it? Probably not. Ya know, Video cards have been known to be DOA from the manufacturer, maybe you got one. Think before you act. (read before you reply) You have no idea why your card was dead, yet you come here and spout off about something you know nothing about.

Now your just angrily babbling. Making no sense at this point. Just take a step back and look what you wrote here.

Have a nice day,

Shamrock[/quote]

Listen my friend, its obvious you feel very strongly about defending what you did. I feel strongly about condemning it. I was sent a flashed card by GameVE. People should know about it. That is part of what this post is for. This post is also to show how much companies like BFG, are taken advantage of buy guys (similar) to you. Saying that you would have thrown your 477.00 5900Ultra in the garbage had it been unrecoverable from a bad flash is very far fetched as anyone here might agree. Its difficult to make yourself out to be a saint when you make unbelievable statements like that. Its too far gone now and its getting carried away. So I leave you with saying, your one in a million kid.

You have a nice day too.

 

[Keysplayr]

Who here besides believes that this thread should never have been posted? Who believes I should have kept it all to myself?
Tell Me. I honestly want to know. Who here believes that I am spouting off about things I know absolutely nothing about?

Keys

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Who here besides believes that this thread should never have been posted? Who believes I should have kept it all to myself?
Tell Me. I honestly want to know. Who here believes that I am spouting off about things I know absolutely nothing about?

Keys

I think you should have named GameVe in your thread title, ultimately they are the responsible party. I totally agree with you about the underlying issue though, returning merchandise that you f'up is a big problem that only gets much worse when you throw a shady retailer in the mix. I remember well the threads about returned r9500's at BB and on and on, but this takes it to the next level. Folks ought to be thanking you for bringing up the attention IMHO, thanks for that!

 

[Shamrock]

I was sent a flashed card by GameVE.

prove it.

you have absolutely ZERO proof it was flashed. Just because it's dead means that it was flashed.

 

[Bucksnort]

Shamrock you need to do a little more study on this issue. Its already been proven gameve is sending out dead cards that have been flashed. This was done by BFG when some of the taken buyers contacted them. It is partly gameve's fault in this and the rest of the fault falls on the moraless punks ruining their card trying to make it something its not and sending it back to get another one and ruin it too probably. You want compassion on your viewpoint then go over to your buddies on guru3d or overclockers. Birds of a feather.....

 

[Keysplayr]

Thanks guys. I thought I was doing the right thing. I appreciate that.

 

[Shamrock]

the way keys is wording it, it's like everyone's fault that they flashed their bios, when it's not. it is 100% GameVE's fault and you spout off at us flashers, when it's no one's fault but GameVE's.

I want no one's compassion for anything. I dont belong to Guru3d, nor overclocker's. In fact I ONLY belong to ANAND's and NVNews.

I just dont like being blamed for something I didnt do. And still the vulgar langauge was uncalled for.

 

[Keysplayr]

Shamrock, as long as you stick to what you said about never RMA'ing that card, I agree with you.
GameVE is 100% in the wrong for what they are doing to their customers.
The flashers are 100% wrong for what they do to the manufacturers. It's people that say and do things like what Bucksnort posted here:


Bucksnort copied this from users at another forum:

"What did you expect from the fine world of OCing... we mod, we break, we go OOPs, we put back to normal, we send it back saying it broke on its own and we get a brand new one in return and try again."


Pretty sad isn't it? No morals, no guilt and they feel that the manufacturers owe this to them because they make so much money.
Ultimately it will raise the price of the products because manufacturers lose money every time this is done.

It is irresponsible to flash your video cards and expect the manufacturer to eat the cost of the flashers irresponsibility.
I understand you are annoyed because you are a flasher. You say you would never RMA if you failed. Unfortunatley you have no way to prove
that and I'm not asking you to.

So this thread is to address both issues Sham. Primarily GameVE's guilt. Its not ONLY about GameVE. Its about abusive consumers as well.

 

[rbV5]

the way keys is wording it, it's like everyone's fault that they flashed their bios, when it's not. it is 100% GameVE's fault and you spout off at us flashers, when it's no one's fault but GameVE's.
.

Thats not I read it at all. I read it that the jerks flashing their cards, and then returning the dead cards to the vendor are a bunch of pricks commiting fraud, only to be outdone by the damn vendor who not only is selling the same cards back to poor shopper such as keys as new cards, but trying to screw them out of a restocking fee to boot when they try to return them as defective.

How you take a personal affront to that is beyond me, and it makes it sound like you're defending the practice (Good Gawd, you realy aren't are you?) keysplayr2003 is right on the money on this one, and any right thinking person would be outraged at the practice. Thanks again keys!

 

[Keysplayr]

Thank you RB

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Shamrock

I was sent a flashed card by GameVE.

prove it.

you have absolutely ZERO proof it was flashed. Just because it's dead means that it was flashed.

I was sent a flashed one, and I had proof. It didnt have a BFG bios when it booted up, and the card was NOT sealed in any way.

Next try?

 

[Defector]

Kudos to BFG... at 9:30am yesterday they received the dead card that GameVE shipped me, and had a new one on a UPS truck headed my way before the end of the day. Fast turnaround, no hassle

Wish the GameVE losers had not sent out opened RMA crap in the first place though.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Defector
Kudos to BFG... at 9:30am yesterday they received the dead card that GameVE shipped me, and had a new one on a UPS truck headed my way before the end of the day. Fast turnaround, no hassle

Wish the GameVE losers had not sent out opened RMA crap in the first place though.

Hey Defector, how did you find out they already shipped it back? Did you call them for RMA status? Or is there a way to check RMA status from the BFG website?

THANKs..

 

[anim8r]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Shamrock

I was sent a flashed card by GameVE.

prove it.

you have absolutely ZERO proof it was flashed. Just because it's dead means that it was flashed.

I was sent a flashed one, and I had proof. It didnt have a BFG bios when it booted up, and the card was NOT sealed in any way.

Next try?

My buddy here at work ordered his from gameve and I ordered mine from buyextremegear. Both of ours don't have bios screens show up at boot. Just got off the phone with BFG support and they said that's normal and not an indicator that it's been previously flashed.

 

[Bucksnort]

Don't buy BFG as they suck and for God's sake don't ever buy from gameve

 

[CyBeRiANx]

I find it funny that people are RMA'ing cards that were flashed. If you're at least goign to RMA a card that you killed from being flashed with the wrong bios, at least use a PCI card and flash back the orginal bios (you should have backed them up first).

Also...

Originally posted by: Bucksnort
Don't buy BFG as they suck and for God's sake don't ever buy from gameve

Don't post crap like this unless you have evidence to back up your claim. Most here agree that BFG has not been the problem and that they have stood by their customers, even though they're getting the raw end of the deal. Kudos to a company who stands behind their products and customers. We also know that BFG's do not suck. I have hardly seen any negative reviews from BFG cards..and the few I have seen, do not show any reasonable evidence to claim that "they suck" and so on.

People, do your research. Out of the thousands of cards that are manufactured...there are going to be some bad cards. Its a fact of life, that's why BFG is here to make sure we're happy. They even went a step ahead and offered a lifetime warranty.

Again, Kudos to BFG

 

[Bucksnort]

I stand by what I said and I will repeat it, BFG sucks, well let me rephrase seeing that BFG does not make their card. The company that makes cards for BFG 5900 sucks. Open your eyes, no other company is getting the huge number of complaints!

 

[Ackmed]

Mine had a BIOS, just not BFG's.

Originally posted by: Bucksnort
I stand by what I said and I will repeat it, BFG sucks, well let me rephrase seeing that BFG does not make their card. The company that makes cards for BFG 5900 sucks. Open your eyes, no other company is getting the huge number of complaints!

Thats silly. I have not seen anyone have a problem with BFG cards, that was not from gameve. Blame gameve and the flashers who sent them back, because they were not smart enough to flash properly.

I got mine back today from BFG, 6 days total, counting Sat&Sun. Pretty good customer support I think.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Mine had a BIOS, just not BFG's.

Originally posted by: Bucksnort
I stand by what I said and I will repeat it, BFG sucks, well let me rephrase seeing that BFG does not make their card. The company that makes cards for BFG 5900 sucks. Open your eyes, no other company is getting the huge number of complaints!

Thats silly. I have not seen anyone have a problem with BFG cards, that was not from gameve. Blame gameve and the flashers who sent them back, because they were not smart enough to flash properly.

I got mine back today from BFG, 6 days total, counting Sat&Sun. Pretty good customer support I think.

How's it working?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

*holds some marshmellows up to this thread*

Mmm, toasty.

Hey Shamrock ... if you're getting all huffy at the word "Bastard" I suggest you get the hell off the Internet now before you misspell a URL and have to see (god forbid) NEKKID WIMMEN :Q

:beer:

- M4H

 

[CyBeRiANx]

Originally posted by: Bucksnort
I stand by what I said and I will repeat it, BFG sucks, well let me rephrase seeing that BFG does not make their card. The company that makes cards for BFG 5900 sucks. Open your eyes, no other company is getting the huge number of complaints!

Show your evidence. I bet I can find more evidence towards other "brands" sucking then BFG..even counting the GameVE ones as of recently (Which technically is not BFG"s fault). You provide no proof to support your claims, you only state opinion. The truth of the matter is that most of it is OPINION with people. BFG's track record speaks for itself.

 

[Megatomic]

I'd like to see you prove that Gainward sucks more than BFG dude.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
I'd like to see you prove that Gainward sucks more than BFG dude.

wth does that have to do with anything?

 

[Megatomic]

He said he could prove that other brands sucked more than BFG... Read for yourself. I just want to see if Gainward sucks more than BFG now.