Just test drove the 08 Altima Coupe

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sthaznpride17

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You know you could argue that Mustangs are pieces of crap that are made by a failing company called Ford. The materials are garbage the reliability is a crapshoot. A kid at my school has one of the new Mustangs, spends a lot of time in the shop. :D
 

Praxis1452

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
And yes you implied I cared about a v6 mustang.

Good lord you can be dense... the implication people were making was that you think anything with 270HP or less is an econobox.
a 270hp is an econobox.
So by your words, you would consider a car, even a Mustang (whether its V6 or V8, seeing as previous gen Mustang GTs had 260hp), with 270HP or less to be an econobox.

Actually you assumed I made that implication, as most non econobox fanboys could tell I was talking about the OP's test drive car. LOL
you stated a 270hp is an econobox.

That's not an assumation. What your above sentence means is. "270hp cars are econoboxes." I'm not even going to assume that you mean below 270 but exactly 270. You judged by hp. That is exactly what your sentence states.

No people couldn't tell. If your trying to argue it's not their fault if express yourself incorrectly. Burden of proof is on you.
 

Xyclone

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: Xyclone
SVT Cobra, I see you mentioned that the Mustang's V6 is better than Nissan's VQ35DE. Um, no. The VQ sounds better, has proven itself in other cars, puts out much more power, is more effecient, and much more reliable.

Also, someone buying the Altima isn't going to think about the heritage behind the car. Except for drag racing, the Mustang really has no heritage, and has a stigma of having its driver be an insecure, young punk who just wants to show off. I would say Nissan VQ engine has a lot more "personality" than the Mustang itself. Look at the Skyline GT-R's application of it.

I'll take the trouble off SVT's hands and reply like he would.

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
You honestly can't compare a ricer "truck motor" to good ol' American Muscle. Your import V6 doesn't sound better at all, it doesn't scream, it shrieks. The V6 in the Mustang growls only like an American motor can. Plus, it's got a better torque curve (let's completely ignore the fact that it's still got less torque than the VQ35 as configured in the 3.5 SE Altima)

ROFL, he replied like that in a thread where someone praised the 2007 Camry V6 for putting out a very high amount of power and torque for its displacement and application (family car), and still gets class-leading MPG and awesome reliability to boot.
 

bigdog1218

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At close to $30k nicely equipped the Altima is one of the worst deals on any new car. OMG 270HP!!!!! Your neck must hurt so much from the awesome FWD zooming you through the curves, or maybe its just the horrible seats in the horrible interior of a horrible car.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: bigdog1218
At close to $30k nicely equipped the Altima is one of the worst deals on any new car. OMG 270HP!!!!! Your neck must hurt so much from the awesome FWD zooming you through the curves, or maybe its just the horrible seats in the horrible interior of a horrible car.

I'd rather add $3k and buy a nicely equipped Acura TL.
 

InverseOfNeo

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Originally posted by: bigdog1218
At close to $30k nicely equipped the Altima is one of the worst deals on any new car. OMG 270HP!!!!! Your neck must hurt so much from the awesome FWD zooming you through the curves, or maybe its just the horrible seats in the horrible interior of a horrible car.

Have you seen the interior of the new Altimas? The interiors are a lot better than previous years.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: bigdog1218
At close to $30k nicely equipped the Altima is one of the worst deals on any new car. OMG 270HP!!!!! Your neck must hurt so much from the awesome FWD zooming you through the curves, or maybe its just the horrible seats in the horrible interior of a horrible car.

I'd rather add $3k and buy a nicely equipped Acura TL.

Doesn't $3k get you a bone stock Acura TL?
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: bigdog1218
At close to $30k nicely equipped the Altima is one of the worst deals on any new car. OMG 270HP!!!!! Your neck must hurt so much from the awesome FWD zooming you through the curves, or maybe its just the horrible seats in the horrible interior of a horrible car.

I'd rather add $3k and buy a nicely equipped Acura TL.

Doesn't $3k get you a bone stock Acura TL?

with the last TL, there is no options, it comes fully loaded as is. (except the Navigation system, this is the only option).

I am not sure about the current gen
 

BUTCH1

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Riiiiiiight, so when it comes to Nissans, 270 HP is econobox territory, but a Ford with 210 HP has a personality.
Is that the same personality that can only manage 0-60 in 7 seconds compared to the automatic Altima sedan's 6.4, or the personality that loses in the 1/4 mile? The personality that can only manage 18/26 MPG compared to 22/28 MPG, or the personality that doesn't come with stock ABS or TCS?
I prefer to drive unnoticed in my personality-free vehicle, that way I can soundly destroy any V6 'Stangs that want to race. By the way, I prefer to call it a sleeper.


23/31 MPG, 2.5 W/CVT 19/26 MPG W/CVT from Nissan's
website. Didn't think 6.4sec. 0-60 and 22MPG sounded right. Those #'s are for the 2.5 and 3.5 respectfully. Nice body lines
but I don't care for the headlight design at all, fugly IMO..
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Riiiiiiight, so when it comes to Nissans, 270 HP is econobox territory, but a Ford with 210 HP has a personality.
Is that the same personality that can only manage 0-60 in 7 seconds compared to the automatic Altima sedan's 6.4, or the personality that loses in the 1/4 mile? The personality that can only manage 18/26 MPG compared to 22/28 MPG, or the personality that doesn't come with stock ABS or TCS?
I prefer to drive unnoticed in my personality-free vehicle, that way I can soundly destroy any V6 'Stangs that want to race. By the way, I prefer to call it a sleeper.


23/31 MPG, 2.5 W/CVT 19/26 MPG W/CVT from Nissan's
website. Didn't think 6.4sec. 0-60 and 22MPG sounded right. Those #'s are for the 2.5 and 3.5 respectfully. Nice body lines
but I don't care for the headlight design at all, fugly IMO..

Sedan was in bold, your link has "altimacoupe" in the address :p
 

avash

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Originally posted by: Sust
OP, I dont know if you had the chance to gun it from a stop or not, but has Nissan solved their FWD torque steer problem? I remember reading a review about them changing the layout or position of the engine which would eliminate torque steer.
(Just out of curiosity from an older torque steering maxima) :)

I own an older 4th gen maxima and i can say that the new Altima coupe/sedan as well as the current Maxima with CVT has resolved the torque steer symptom

Actually, it wasn't just Nissan that exhibited this behavior ... it had more to do with it being FWD and having high torque that made it more likely to occur ... TL was notorious for it as well. Nissan now uses equal length driveshafts and also lowered the engine slightly to overcome the torque steer symptom.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Coupe versions of sedans are for poseurs anyway. Same weight, same wheelbase, same everything except a more sloped rear window and 2 doors.

Except for the fact that the Altima coupe is lighter, has a smaller wheelbase, and "fresh body panels."

That's good then. First one I've heard of like that in recent years.

Does last generation's Honda Accord not count?

Same thing...lighter, smaller wheelbase, and different styling
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: bigdog1218
At close to $30k nicely equipped the Altima is one of the worst deals on any new car. OMG 270HP!!!!! Your neck must hurt so much from the awesome FWD zooming you through the curves, or maybe its just the horrible seats in the horrible interior of a horrible car.

I'd rather add $3k and buy a nicely equipped Acura TL.

Why? The best sedan for under 30k is Hyundai Azera. Hyundai sells this former flagship sedan for around $43,000 in Korea and calls it Grandeur. Same sedan here in the US cost less than $30k and with better warranty. Tell me Hyundai isn't serious about trying to gain marketshare in the US.
 

Eli

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It's a good thing you didn't drive a GT500 or something, your head would have just fallen off. :p
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: avash
Originally posted by: Sust
OP, I dont know if you had the chance to gun it from a stop or not, but has Nissan solved their FWD torque steer problem? I remember reading a review about them changing the layout or position of the engine which would eliminate torque steer.
(Just out of curiosity from an older torque steering maxima) :)

I own an older 4th gen maxima and i can say that the new Altima coupe/sedan as well as the current Maxima with CVT has resolved the torque steer symptom

Actually, it wasn't just Nissan that exhibited this behavior ... it had more to do with it being FWD and having high torque that made it more likely to occur ... TL was notorious for it as well. Nissan now uses equal length driveshafts and also lowered the engine slightly to overcome the torque steer symptom.



RWD FTW
 

JohnCU

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haha wow, look what i started.

again, for someone who has never driven anything that makes it from 0-60 in less than 11 seconds, this car is a big improvement for me.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
haha wow, look what i started.

again, for someone who has never driven anything that makes it from 0-60 in less than 11 seconds, this car is a big improvement for me.

SVT is being a moron, ignore him.

It is a nice car, and 270HP is absolutely nothing to scoff at. Christ.
 

mcurphy

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My sister just bought the '07 4cyl sedan, and that thing has some get up and go for a 4cyl! I think they are 2.5L. Very nice ride :thumbsup:
 

iversonyin

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: bigdog1218
At close to $30k nicely equipped the Altima is one of the worst deals on any new car. OMG 270HP!!!!! Your neck must hurt so much from the awesome FWD zooming you through the curves, or maybe its just the horrible seats in the horrible interior of a horrible car.

I'd rather add $3k and buy a nicely equipped Acura TL.

Why? The best sedan for under 30k is Hyundai Azera. Hyundai sells this former flagship sedan for around $43,000 in Korea and calls it Grandeur. Same sedan here in the US cost less than $30k and with better warranty. Tell me Hyundai isn't serious about trying to gain marketshare in the US.

Yea, but not everyone like the look of the Azera. I have the Honda over Hyundai anytime. As bland as they both get, I like Honda design better.
 

BUTCH1

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Riiiiiiight, so when it comes to Nissans, 270 HP is econobox territory, but a Ford with 210 HP has a personality.
Is that the same personality that can only manage 0-60 in 7 seconds compared to the automatic Altima sedan's 6.4, or the personality that loses in the 1/4 mile? The personality that can only manage 18/26 MPG compared to 22/28 MPG, or the personality that doesn't come with stock ABS or TCS?
I prefer to drive unnoticed in my personality-free vehicle, that way I can soundly destroy any V6 'Stangs that want to race. By the way, I prefer to call it a sleeper.


23/31 MPG, 2.5 W/CVT 19/26 MPG W/CVT from Nissan's
website. Didn't think 6.4sec. 0-60 and 22MPG sounded right. Those #'s are for the 2.5 and 3.5 respectfully. Nice body lines
but I don't care for the headlight design at all, fugly IMO..

Sedan was in bold, your link has "altimacoupe" in the address :p

I stand corrected, that is impressive performance for 22MPG city. Maybe the coupe is geared differently
hence the lower MPG.
 

iamwiz82

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How impressive

It's not with overpowering speed, though. A 0-60-mph time in the 6.0-second range and a quarter-mile time just under 15.0 seconds no longer make anyone feel entirely special, not even in the sensible coupe class. Our CVT-equipped coupe ran to 60 mph in 6.4 seconds, then laid down a quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds, a couple tenths quicker than the Altima sedan.

Nevertheless, it hasn't any edge over the Pontiac G6 GTP coupe, which gets to 60 mph in 6.2 seconds and does the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds. Of course, the Altima CVT coupe is a smidge faster than the Mitsubishi Eclipse GT with a manual transmission, which takes 6.6 seconds to get to 60 mph and then does the quarter-mile in 14.9 seconds.

So it's even with the competition, woohoo!
 

BUTCH1

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
How impressive

It's not with overpowering speed, though. A 0-60-mph time in the 6.0-second range and a quarter-mile time just under 15.0 seconds no longer make anyone feel entirely special, not even in the sensible coupe class. Our CVT-equipped coupe ran to 60 mph in 6.4 seconds, then laid down a quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds, a couple tenths quicker than the Altima sedan.

Nevertheless, it hasn't any edge over the Pontiac G6 GTP coupe, which gets to 60 mph in 6.2 seconds and does the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds. Of course, the Altima CVT coupe is a smidge faster than the Mitsubishi Eclipse GT with a manual transmission, which takes 6.6 seconds to get to 60 mph and then does the quarter-mile in 14.9 seconds.

So it's even with the competition, woohoo!

If it can get you to 60 in 6.4 AND get you 22MPG that's impressive!. People get all crazy with the performance spec's
with these mid-sized cars but if it can get me on the onramp without problem, I'm happy. Speeding tickets are getting
really expensive these days and racing (in FL) will get you a suspension.