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nitenichiryu1

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alrightteyy. just started my overclockage on my msi neo2 3500+ setup. i was able to get it stable at 11x220 so i figured i'd up it a bit. my voltage was 3.3% so i believe 1.4 and my timings were 2-3-3-6-2t. although it ran stable, i couldnt up the frequency of my ram. it was held back at 200mhz. im using the 1.3 official bios. is that right? running it at 200?

next thing, i tried lowering my setup to 10x240 and then the system wouldnt start up. not even to the screen where i press delete to enter the bios. i dont know how i can get my comp started back up again. what should i do? thanks guys. im an overclocking newb, but i have faith in your help.
 

JohnAn2112

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If you set the memory at 200, that should mean that it'll run a 1 to 1 ratio with your FSB. Also, lower your HT frequency from 5x to 4x and loosen your memory timings to something like 2.5-3-3-8.
 

res0n0xg

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alright man, what you have done is set the memory timings to tight.... and your 240 fsb is too high. so, in order to get everything back to stock you need to flash your bios which can be done by removing a certain jumper on your motherboard for a few seconds like a pin or two over (it usually varies by mobo) and then putting it back in original position. after that just take it slow, going from 11 X and 220 to 10X and 240 is a big giant jump without loosening the timings at all. also, just check the mobo manual to find what pins you should place the jumper on to reset the bios.
 

JohnAn2112

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It's not flashing the BIOS, it's clearing the CMOS. I think the jumpers for your motherboard are right underneath the last PCI slot. Try 10x multiplier at 240 FSB with 4x HT frequency. Then set the memory timings to 2.5-3-3-10 and set the RAM voltage to 2.7v.
 

res0n0xg

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yes, sigh, i don't know what i was thinking saying flash the bios.... i have cleared cmos so many times on my own mobo i should have gotten that right... clearing the cmos resets all the bios settings back to default so i must have been mixed up on the two.
 

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another way to clear the CMOS on many machines is to repeatedly hit the "insert" key when it powers on. hit it lots of times, and it will usually reset it for that boot (although you need to then set it to a functional setup in BIOS)
 

JohnAn2112

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That should work with MSI boards. I haven't had luck with that on certain boards from other manufacturers though. MSI and Asus work though.
 

gururu

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I think the jumper is next to the battery on that board. I like the bIOS that restart to default after 3 failures.
 

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Originally posted by: nitenichiryu1
what...crap. in my cell menu, everytime i bring up my HT frequency my bios freezes. whats that all about??

Don't hit Enter when you get to the HT Frequency.

Just highlight it and use the - or + buttons on your keypad to change the speed. I don't know why it does this or why it hasn't been fixed, but that's the way to get around it.
 

nitenichiryu1

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when should i start checking for stability? (prime) how do i konw when ive had enough? right now im at 10.5x240 with 2.5-3-3-10 2t timings. whats optimal?
 

Dethfrumbelo

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Running CMD at 2T is going to kill your performance. Set it back to 1T and either loosen the other timings and/or drop the frequency.
 

JohnAn2112

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With the OCZ PC3200 Platinum Revision 2, you should be able to hit 240 FSB at 1T timings. Set your RAM voltage to 2.8 volts if you're not stable at 2.6 or 2.7 volts.
 

nitenichiryu1

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hmm..is it safe to run prime numerous times for stability testing? and i actually decided to go ahead and stop prime to change from 2t to 1t. and its ok to up the voltage even though the bios doesnt "recommend" the setting, right? thanks
 

gururu

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don't change the voltage unless you have problems. and then only raise it by 3% or so at first.
 

nitenichiryu1

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thanks. well i went back into the bios and changed my timings to 2.5-4-4-10-1T. my memory voltage is 2.7 and my vcore is 1.5 (whatever the 5% up in voltage is). right now im running prime to test 9.5x270. prime would crash if i upped it to 275. any thoughts? or is that about enough for my cpu?