Just say no to unions

[Londo_Jowo]

This cracks me up. Nothing like saying unions are good unless they try to organize my employees.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/media...-trying-to-organize-its-staff/article/2547560

Media Matters refused SEIU's effort to organize its staff

Despite a long history of supporting unions and workplace organizing, liberal nonprofit group Media Matters for America refused labor organizers when they submitted a petition to represent MMFA's own workers.

 

[soulcougher73]

Im pro union in general, but i really hate hypocrits with a passion.

 

[cubby1223]

I'd like to see more information on the subject, because it sounds interesting.

But currently the only information out there is a couple dozen partisan websites basing their stories on loose bits of information.

 

[bshole]

Right wing hatchet job. Not a grain of truth in it.

 

[smackababy]

Unions are great! Unless they are your employees and going to drive up the cost of your labor.


I think the time of unions has passed. People are far too entitled these days for unions to do any good. It no longer becomes about worker's rights to fair compensation and working conditions and becomes about what worker's want, despite what the market suggests. Don't get me wrong, if I could join a union that would double my pay, I'd join up right away.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Right wing hatchet job. Not a grain of truth in it.

Would you please provide evidence to that?

 

[bshole]

How do you know the right wing is lying? Its lips are moving!

No accountablity, no honesty, no integrity. They post blatant falsehoods and slanders and NOBODY holds them to account.

Absolutely disgraceful and sickening behaviour. Standard MO for them.

 

[bshole]

Would you please provide evidence to that?

How do you provide evidence that proves something DIDN'T happen? That is impossible. I never had sex with my mother but I can provide NO evidence to prove it.

How about you provide some EVIDENCE that it DID happen?

 

[FerrelGeek]

How do you provide evidence that proves something DIDN'T happen? That is impossible. I never had sex with my mother but I can provide NO evidence to prove it.

How about you provide some EVIDENCE that it DID happen?

So, in other words you have nothing to base your claim on other than your general hatred of anything non-liberal. Gotcha, sparky.

 

[Matt1970]

How do you know the right wing is lying? Its lips are moving!
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It's not shocking you think that only applies to the right wing.

 

[cubby1223]

How do you provide evidence that proves something DIDN'T happen? That is impossible. I never had sex with my mother but I can provide NO evidence to prove it.

How about you provide some EVIDENCE that it DID happen?

File a FOIA to obtain the source documents yourself:
http://www.nlrb.gov/case/05-RC-126334

There is your grain of truth.

 

[Knowing]

http://www.nlrb.gov/case/05-RC-126334

http://www.nlrb.gov/resources/nlrb-process

The National Labor Relations Board is an independent federal agency vested with the power to safeguard employees' rights to organize and to determine whether to have unions as their bargaining representative. The first chart details steps in the unfair labor practice process, and the second details the representation election process.

I don't know why there would be a reason to petition an "independent federal agency vested with the power to safeguard employees' rights to organize." Seems like a union would be a good fit.

 

[Texashiker]

This cracks me up. Nothing like saying unions are good unless they try to organize my employees.

Its the left, what do you expect?

Do as they say, not as they do. Take your serfdom, shut up and be happy.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Agreed; what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

Unless that gander is wealthy, white and conservative.

 

[IronWing]

I think the time of unions has passed.

I disagree. The export of manufacturing jobs and the decline of the middle class track tightly with the decline in union participation. Predatory capitalists have been running amuck while American workers have been in a political stupor.

 

[Texashiker]

Unless that gander is wealthy, white and conservative.

Then why does liberal California have the highest rates of income inequality in the nation?

 

[Hugo Drax]

I disagree. The export of manufacturing jobs and the decline of the middle class track tightly with the decline in union participation. Predatory capitalists have been running amuck while American workers have been in a political stupor.

With highspeed networks and offshore industrial capacity, Unions are kind of Obsolete.

Companies will continue to send jobs overseas, making Unions not effective.

The only way to stop the insanity is to cut off the oxygen from the fire.

This means stop borrowing money to buy shit all the time, go back to 1950s style personal spending.

 

[IronWing]

With highspeed networks and offshore industrial capacity, Unions are kind of Obsolete.

Companies will continue to send jobs overseas, making Unions not effective.

The only way to stop the insanity is to cut off the oxygen from the fire.

This means stop borrowing money to buy shit all the time, go back to 1950s style personal spending.

Unions were effective in maintaining trade tariffs to the extent that their membership represented a formidible voting block. As membership dropped and the political clout of unions faded the tariffs were the first thing to go. Workers apathetic to their own self-interests shot themselves in the feet.

I agree with you about borrowing.

 

[blackangst1]

How do you know the left wing is lying? Its lips are moving!

No accountablity, no honesty, no integrity. They post blatant falsehoods and slanders and NOBODY holds them to account.

Absolutely disgraceful and sickening behaviour. Standard MO for them.

FIFY

Isnt name calling fun?

 

[marincounty]

Then why does liberal California have the highest rates of income inequality in the nation?

Because California has lots of high earning highly educated professionals along with lots of poorly educated illegals ? Liberal California also has a much higher per capita income than right-wing Texas.

 

[Fern]

I disagree. The export of manufacturing jobs and the decline of the middle class track tightly with the decline in union participation. Predatory capitalists have been running amuck while American workers have been in a political stupor.

Are you suggesting the decline in union participation led to the export of manufacturing jobs?

I suspect it's the other way around. Exporting manufacturing jobs led to fewer jobs meaning fewer union members.

And in some cases union activity is what caused the exporting of manufacturing jobs.

Fern

 

[IronWing]

And in some cases union activity is what caused the exporting of manufacturing jobs.

That seems to be the standard narrative told by folks who choose to export jobs but it was the removal of tariffs that makes exporting jobs economical. Protectionism worked, it just worked for the wrong people.

 

[smackababy]

That seems to be the standard narrative told by folks who choose to export jobs but it was the removal of tariffs that makes exporting jobs economical. Protectionism worked, it just worked for the wrong people.

And what exactly did tariffs do that were good? Make foreign goods more expensive simply because they were foreign? Yeah! Go America!

Let's also take into account the average auto worker (unionized) makes $29 an hour before calculating benefits. Why should unskilled labor make $60,000 a year?

 

[IronWing]

And what exactly did tariffs do that were good? Make foreign goods more expensive simply because they were foreign? Yeah! Go America!

Yes, they did, precisely that. And America was a better nation for it.

 

[smackababy]

Yes, they did, precisely that. And America was a better nation for it.

What was better about it exactly?