your district must be well off. i still cant fathom 300$ for 21mph.. unless 20mph is the big step up. in Austin the step is 25mph (cant take DD) .. and that ticket is only 250$.
300$ for 20 is bunk
your district must be well off. i still cant fathom 300$ for 21mph.. unless 20mph is the big step up. in Austin the step is 25mph (cant take DD) .. and that ticket is only 250$.
300$ for 20 is bunk
That actually doesnt sound to bad, right now Im looking at a $1200 fine for speeding if Im convicted.
Also, no insurance here is a $5000 ticket first offense and something like $50,000 second offense.
Also, no insurance here is a $5000 ticket first offense and something like $50,000 second offense.
MagnusTheBrewer
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I once rode my bike through a 2 horse town in northern Colorado doing about 80 mph. It had been raining and about 5 miles out of town, I looked in my mirrors and saw a car about a mile back with blue and orange lights flashing side to side.
Thinking the car was an emergency vehicle and that it would be a good time to stop and get out of my wet jacket, I pulled over and stuffed my jacket in the saddlebags. A minute later, a police cruiser pulls up and the officer hops out and says "Thanks for stopping, I didn't think I was going to catch you."
Well, he was pretty nice about it considering he was parked under the bridge marked 35 mph in town when I went sailing through. He had me return to town and put a twenty in an envelope with the speeding ticket put it in the mailbox and escorted me back out of town. Nice guy.
Thinking the car was an emergency vehicle and that it would be a good time to stop and get out of my wet jacket, I pulled over and stuffed my jacket in the saddlebags. A minute later, a police cruiser pulls up and the officer hops out and says "Thanks for stopping, I didn't think I was going to catch you."
Well, he was pretty nice about it considering he was parked under the bridge marked 35 mph in town when I went sailing through. He had me return to town and put a twenty in an envelope with the speeding ticket put it in the mailbox and escorted me back out of town. Nice guy.
Toastedlightly
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Yeah, a lot of places have a larger scale for 20+ over and it's considered "reckless driving".
I got lucky, I was doing 75 in a 55 but the officer gave me 74 in a 55 so I didn't have a reckless driving conviction on my record...sometimes it pays to be honest with the cops.
alkemyst
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60 in a 35 is insane for those that are really 35mph roads and not just speedtraps (if you have more road intersections without stoplights vs stopsigns and private homes around you...you should be going the speedlimit)...
81 in a 60mph zone isn't that much of a difference especially when you consider those travelling 10mph above the limit have the least accidents.
All that said, don't do the crime if you can't pay the fine...I will agree it's BS.
Here in S. Florida, 2 15mph+ tickets in less than 6 months, maybe a year now will get you a license suspension.
The problem with traffic tickets isn't the sometimes ridicilous enforcement by cops, rather it is the fixed pricing structure of tickets with regards to income.
Tickets are a source of revenue and just like income tax they should be progressive. Probably most other sources of civic government revenue shouldn't be progressive. I feel it should be different for traffic tickets because
1. Most Americans have a car and the chances are even the safest , law obeying, speed limit observing citizen will get a ticket eventually. If not intentional it could be due to unawareness ( running a stop sign when you didn't see and no it doesn't mean you were negligent sometimes it just happens) My point is you should get a ticket but it shouldn't be $300. That's a poor man's weekly paycheck or less.
2. If city government relies heavily on traffic tickets as revenue then it should find additional sources of revenue or increase taxes. I know nobody will vote for an increase in taxes but it's way better than going 5 over and end up paying $100.
3. The progressive nature of traffic fines doesn't have to be complicated or have different levels like the tax system. Lets take Op's fine and roughly say somebody with an annual income over 100,000 should pay 400-500, while somebody with less than 30k should pay 100-200.
Seems so much fairer. If I was mayor that'd be on my to-do list or I'd fight to put it on the ballot and let the voters decide first
Yeah right and Santa lives at the North Pole.....
Tickets are a source of revenue and just like income tax they should be progressive. Probably most other sources of civic government revenue shouldn't be progressive. I feel it should be different for traffic tickets because
1. Most Americans have a car and the chances are even the safest , law obeying, speed limit observing citizen will get a ticket eventually. If not intentional it could be due to unawareness ( running a stop sign when you didn't see and no it doesn't mean you were negligent sometimes it just happens) My point is you should get a ticket but it shouldn't be $300. That's a poor man's weekly paycheck or less.
2. If city government relies heavily on traffic tickets as revenue then it should find additional sources of revenue or increase taxes. I know nobody will vote for an increase in taxes but it's way better than going 5 over and end up paying $100.
3. The progressive nature of traffic fines doesn't have to be complicated or have different levels like the tax system. Lets take Op's fine and roughly say somebody with an annual income over 100,000 should pay 400-500, while somebody with less than 30k should pay 100-200.
Seems so much fairer. If I was mayor that'd be on my to-do list or I'd fight to put it on the ballot and let the voters decide first
Yeah right and Santa lives at the North Pole.....
I actually got pulled over going 100 mph over the speed limit once. I only got written for 30 over and because this was almost 20 years ago it wasn't even expensive. I think it was around $100.
alkemyst
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Originally posted by: noni
The problem with traffic tickets isn't the sometimes ridicilous enforcement by cops, rather it is the fixed pricing structure of tickets with regards to income.
Tickets are a source of revenue and just like income tax they should be progressive. Probably most other sources of civic government revenue shouldn't be progressive. I feel it should be different for traffic tickets because
1. Most Americans have a car and the chances are even the safest , law obeying, speed limit observing citizen will get a ticket eventually. If not intentional it could be due to unawareness ( running a stop sign when you didn't see and no it doesn't mean you were negligent sometimes it just happens) My point is you should get a ticket but it shouldn't be $300. That's a poor man's weekly paycheck or less.
2. If city government relies heavily on traffic tickets as revenue then it should find additional sources of revenue or increase taxes. I know nobody will vote for an increase in taxes but it's way better than going 5 over and end up paying $100.
3. The progressive nature of traffic fines doesn't have to be complicated or have different levels like the tax system. Lets take Op's fine and roughly say somebody with an annual income over 100,000 should pay 400-500, while somebody with less than 30k should pay 100-200.
Seems so much fairer. If I was mayor that'd be on my to-do list or I'd fight to put it on the ballot and let the voters decide first
Yeah right and Santa lives at the North Pole.....
doesn't matter if the guy was poor or rich. Progressive taxes aren't the answer though.
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