Just read the article on the 45nm...

[drifter106]

After reading the article I couldn't help but think what the forseeable future holds for the computer technology. I am aware of some "law" that was forecasted in regards to ever so many years you have things double (or something to that effect) but can anybody, with any certain degree of accuracy, shed some light on what lays ahead. Next 2 or 4 years. It really amazes me how far we have come since the days of the apple, apple II and C.


thanks

jd

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

well we are reaching the limits of how far we can shrink down transistors. further improvements are going to have to come from elsewhere.

i think in the next 5-10 years we will begin to see a whole new shift in how CPU's are designed and how we can increase performance.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
well we are reaching the limits of how far we can shrink down transistors. further improvements are going to have to come from elsewhere.

i think in the next 5-10 years we will begin to see a whole new shift in how CPU's are designed and how we can increase performance.

they have been saying this for years now though and they always seem to find a way.

 

[imported_ceefka]

I think the next step lies in the use of other building material and overall system improvements. Intel already experimented with optical chips. There's nanotubes too.

All sorts of new RAM technology and shrinking might lead into a complete integration of the systemram as we know it: 1/2GB L1 cache, 4/8GB L2 cache, 32/64/128GB solid state drives, 1/2/4TB HDDs.

 

[Furen]

I think we may see decent solid state drives once flash hits 65nm. Remember that making SRAM (the caches) bigger also makes them much slower, so I dont think we can expect to see anything greater than a handful of megabytes any time soon.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
well we are reaching the limits of how far we can shrink down transistors. further improvements are going to have to come from elsewhere.

i think in the next 5-10 years we will begin to see a whole new shift in how CPU's are designed and how we can increase performance.

they have been saying this for years now though and they always seem to find a way.

just because you scale down transistors doesn't mean you gain a linear increase in performance. in fact CPU's are staying at roughly the same size, we are simply packing more transistors in the same area. another major problem we are going to face is interconnect speed, which is already one of the biggest problems today. there are a whole slew of issues that need to be dealt with as we shrink transistors.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: ceefka
I think the next step lies in the use of other building material and overall system improvements. Intel already experimented with optical chips. There's nanotubes too.

All sorts of new RAM technology and shrinking might lead into a complete integration of the systemram as we know it: 1/2GB L1 cache, 4/8GB L2 cache, 32/64/128GB solid state drives, 1/2/4TB HDDs.

That sounds nice, but by that time the games will probably take up 1TB to install, and require 128GB of system memory to run.

 

[darkdemyze]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: ceefka
I think the next step lies in the use of other building material and overall system improvements. Intel already experimented with optical chips. There's nanotubes too.

All sorts of new RAM technology and shrinking might lead into a complete integration of the systemram as we know it: 1/2GB L1 cache, 4/8GB L2 cache, 32/64/128GB solid state drives, 1/2/4TB HDDs.

That sounds nice, but by that time the games will probably take up 1TB to install, and require 128GB of system memory to run.

That would take 400 Blue-Ray disks to get the game to your house, a bit extreme don't you think?

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: darkdemyze

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: ceefka
I think the next step lies in the use of other building material and overall system improvements. Intel already experimented with optical chips. There's nanotubes too.

All sorts of new RAM technology and shrinking might lead into a complete integration of the systemram as we know it: 1/2GB L1 cache, 4/8GB L2 cache, 32/64/128GB solid state drives, 1/2/4TB HDDs.

That sounds nice, but by that time the games will probably take up 1TB to install, and require 128GB of system memory to run.

That would take 400 Blue-Ray disks to get the game to your house, a bit extreme don't you think?

Do you have any idea of the capacity of a Blu-Ray disc?

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: darkdemyze

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: ceefka
I think the next step lies in the use of other building material and overall system improvements. Intel already experimented with optical chips. There's nanotubes too.

All sorts of new RAM technology and shrinking might lead into a complete integration of the systemram as we know it: 1/2GB L1 cache, 4/8GB L2 cache, 32/64/128GB solid state drives, 1/2/4TB HDDs.

That sounds nice, but by that time the games will probably take up 1TB to install, and require 128GB of system memory to run.

That would take 40 Blue-Ray disks to get the game to your house, a bit extreme don't you think?

40 Single Layer Blu Ray Discs perhaps, or 5 8 Layer Blue Rays.

 

[Maximilian]

Execept by that time they will have invented red-ray or purple-ray drives and it will only require 1 or 2 disks Noones gonna sell a 40 disk game lol.

 

[darkdemyze]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: darkdemyze

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: ceefka
I think the next step lies in the use of other building material and overall system improvements. Intel already experimented with optical chips. There's nanotubes too.

All sorts of new RAM technology and shrinking might lead into a complete integration of the systemram as we know it: 1/2GB L1 cache, 4/8GB L2 cache, 32/64/128GB solid state drives, 1/2/4TB HDDs.

That sounds nice, but by that time the games will probably take up 1TB to install, and require 128GB of system memory to run.

That would take 400 Blue-Ray disks to get the game to your house, a bit extreme don't you think?

Do you have any idea of the capacity of a Blu-Ray disc?

Ever hear of a typo? my mistake..

 

[darkdemyze]

Originally posted by: Soviet
Execept by that time they will have invented red-ray or purple-ray drives and it will only require 1 or 2 disks Noones gonna sell a 40 disk game lol.

Sarcasm my friend is key, I understand technology doesn't stand still. Actually by that time my guess would be we wont even be using disks, rather some other sort of media idk..

 

[phaxmohdem]

Originally posted by: darkdemyze

Originally posted by: Soviet
Execept by that time they will have invented red-ray or purple-ray drives and it will only require 1 or 2 disks Noones gonna sell a 40 disk game lol.

Sarcasm my friend is key, I understand technology doesn't stand still. Actually by that time my guess would be we wont even be using disks, rather some other sort of media idk..

I predict by that time we will all be using government issued Wyse terminals to connect to the Globo-Net which houses/serves all our apps on the server end, and also monitors and flags every you do.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Soviet
Execept by that time they will have invented red-ray or purple-ray drives and it will only require 1 or 2 disks Noones gonna sell a 40 disk game lol.

red ray is whats used on normal CD's and DVD's, the purpose of blue ray is the wave length is shorter due to the laser head being a lot closer to the disk when reading it. This increases the density, and decreases the foot print of the written data to the disk.

IIRC when reading some Sony articles, single layer blue ray will be able to hold around 25GB?s of data, I also read that blue ray is expected to eventually max out at a 100GB density.