just ordered a nexus one

[BigSmooth]

Yep, as I suspected originally, it's an antenna issue, no one has had these kind of problems for years, I remember when reviews had RF sensitivity values, and how Nokia was usually the best, and I can imagine HTC not testing with human hands to discover this is an issue...

Google has wads of $, and to keep their credibility, they really need to issue a recall and replace these phones with a better antenna...

I don't know if it's the antenna itself - like I said, I generally get very good reception. It's more the placement of the antenna within the phone. I can see how maybe someone with large hands would have more of an issue than I'm having.

It's certainly a design flaw, and HTC is stupid for including it (particularly given similar issues that had been reported when the iPhone 3G was released), but I really doubt they'll issue a recall - even if I completely wrap my hands around the phone, I don't lose EDGE coverage. Depending on coverage area and phone usage, many people will never even realize there is an issue. I know I didn't notice until it was pointed out, and I've used 3G data quite a bit. Maybe there's a software tweak that will help.

 

[Xellos2099]

How is thew nexus one com\pare to the N900? I bought N900 last week and I like it but the size is a little big for my taste.

 

[vshah]

n900 dimensions:
110.9 mm (4.37 in) (h)
59.8 mm (2.35 in) (w)
18 mm (0.71 in) (d)
19.55 mm at thickest part[2]

Nexus One Dimensions:
119 mm (4.7 in) (h)
59.8 mm (2.35 in) (w)
11.5 mm (0.45 in) (d)

so much thinner, and a bit taller. no physical keyboard, screen is 0.2" larger, 2x the ram and a faster processor

 

[preslove]

I think I may get a N1 when they come to verizon. If the new iPhone kicks ass, though, I might get it.

C'mon Apple, release the damn thing, already.

 

[Muadib]

I think I may get a N1 when they come to verizon. If the new iPhone kicks ass, though, I might get it.

C'mon Apple, release the damn thing, already.

Rumors are that the N1 will be on Verizon by the end of next month. You won't know much, if anything about the new iPhone by then. So what are you going to do?

 

[Pliablemoose]

With the issues this phone has, when they drop it on a major carrier, people are going to start screaming about the problems...

 

[dguy6789]

With the issues this phone has, when they drop it on a major carrier, people are going to start screaming about the problems...

What issues? Virtually everyone I've ever spoke to that has the phone has said it's the best phone they've ever used, including people who previously had iphones or droids.

 

[Pliablemoose]

http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/nexus-one-sucks-top-reason-why-google-phone-sucks/

And I'm seeing reports of screen cracks when charging, CNET UK had one...

You also need to click on the youtube link I posted in this thread.

And before I get called a hater:

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[dguy6789]

Most if not all of that stuff is FUD.

Tmobile has very real advantages over every other carrier. Their network is faster than AT&T's, they offer far better deals on plans than AT&T($79 a month without signing a contract for unlimited voice, text, and internet), they don't require you to sign up for any contracts, and their total network coverage is going to surpass AT&T in the near future. If you don't like Tmobile or don't get good reception with them where you live, Nexus will be available on Verizon in a month. This is hardly a show stopper.

Nexus has multitouch.

Cracked screens is currently an overblown issue. One or two random reports of cracked screens does not mean it is a widespread issue. Maybe if tons of reputable technology sites and users were complaining about the issue then it would be worth worrying about. Right now it is nothing more than nay-sayers grasping at straws.

Moving your hand into a position that it would never normally be in to block the antenna decreasing reception is a show stopping problem? People will find anything to complain about I swear.

 

[Muadib]

While you might be able to say some of the issues are overblown, I'd hardly call them FUD.

I'll start with the 3G issue, because that ain't even overblown. I know one guy who owns the N1, and he has the issue. I know the new firmware was suppose to fix it, but has it? The answer appears to be no.

It's a tad too early to make a call on the crack screen issue, IMO. Hopefully you are right, and it is just a few with the issue. What bothers me though, is that I've seen 5 other posts where the screen cracked for no apparent reason.

 

[Pliablemoose]

One of the problems is that we love our toys and don't want to look objectively at the data.

It's a first generation offering, does it have some problems? Of course.

Will the problems get sorted out, software/firmware patches for the first gen, and some hardware changes in the second gen? Of course.


From JK on the run's's site:

Nexus One 3G reception problems:


Not before nor after the upgrade 21% (59 votes)

No it didn't, but does after the upgrade 4% (12 votes)

It did before the upgrade, but not after 11% (30 votes)

It did before and after the upgrade 63% (174 votes)

Total Votes: 275

I don't think anyone would argue JK's site is a hater's site, in fact, I think one could argue that it's readers are pretty sophisticated users of tech, especially when compared to the Google employees posting inane comments like, "It's like it's on beautifying steroids."

Google also screwed up in making it's support forums so public, the unwashed masses do feed off each other in those kind of forums. Some of them are pretty pissed off, and likely some of them have a point, and should be pissed off.

All I can say is god bless the early adopters, they make life better for the rest of us :biggrin:

And for those of us cheap bastards, where are those refurbed Nexus Ones we know are collecting somewhere?

 

[zoiks]

All I can say is that I'm having the 3g issue but nevertheless, I love the phone. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in a smartphone. I firmly believe that the 3g issue will soon be fixed among the other issues.

 

[Pliablemoose]

All I can say is that I'm having the 3g issue but nevertheless, I love the phone. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in a smartphone. I firmly believe that the 3g issue will soon be fixed among the other issues.

With all due respect, I fail to see how a software/firmware update will fix a poorly designed/implemented antenna.

They can patch the software so it looks like it's not hunting for a signal or switching back & forth, which is what suspect is what they'll do. 90% of users will never know the difference...

 

[bucwylde23]

I just wish they'd hurry up and fix these issues and get this phone on VZW so I can get one.

 

[Muadib]

I just wish they'd hurry up and fix these issues and get this phone on VZW so I can get one.

If the rumors are true, you have slightly more than a month to wait.

 

[vshah]

don't have any issues with mine... putting my hand in that spot does absolutely nothing. loving it so far.

 

[BigSmooth]

I love mine too. T-Mo has good 3G coverage where I live so even if the signal is partially blocked at times it's not affecting my everyday use at all. Meanwhile, there are a myriad of things I absolutely love about the phone. I don't regret buying it at all.

ETA: not to say that it's perfect... my main complaints right now are the fairly lame stock Android music player (I've tried a few Market replacements and none of them are all that great, either) and the fact that you can't initiate voice dialing from a bluetooth headset (wtf).
Also, the trackball is capable of using different LED colors for different notification types but that feature is not enabled for some reason... hopefully, they'll do that soon.

 

[kalster]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/02/14/leaked-nexus-one-firmware-update-packs-more-radio-fixes/

 

[idiotekniQues]

With all due respect, I fail to see how a software/firmware update will fix a poorly designed/implemented antenna.

They can patch the software so it looks like it's not hunting for a signal or switching back & forth, which is what suspect is what they'll do. 90% of users will never know the difference...

well with all due respect you should do a bit more reading. while i thought this way, i am just a layman, i found intances of people saying how many times it is software - equipment is unsure of how to speak to new hardware. cell antennas speak to the phones and adjust their power for reception all the time. therefore a software fix on how they speak to each other is definitely a possible fix. i heard of a few examples of this. now will it be the solution here? i dont know. but, it would be wise to do a little research before exclaiming the 100% truth like you hae here.

 

[vshah]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/02/14/leaked-nexus-one-firmware-update-packs-more-radio-fixes/

forgot to mention that I am using this latest radio image...unlocked and flashed cyanogen as soon as i got the phone.

 

[YoungGun21]

Talked to a Verizon rep today and he said they should have the phone within 4 or 5 weeks, so the rumored March 23rd is looking very promising.

 

[Muadib]

I talked to 2 reps today at lunch, and they had no clue Verizon was getting the nexus 1. When I told them the rumors, they lit up.

 

[YoungGun21]

I talked to 2 reps today at lunch, and they had no clue Verizon was getting the nexus 1. When I told them the rumors, they lit up.

Are you sure they weren't playing you? My rep said they had already been trained on it. He also said he is "very sure" that Verizon will be selling the phones in-store.

 

[Pliablemoose]

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LOL, next time your car needs a brake job, try a software patch

This is a phone problem for sure and I believe Google and HTC are well aware of it.

I have been given to understand from someone at one of those companies that there is a high level meeting being convened about the issue. It sounded to me like someone is pissed.

As much as this issue pisses me off, imagine how much it pisses off people that have millions and millions at stake, particularly by hurting their credibility in a highly competitive field.

If I had to guess, I am betting they are trying to figure out how to weather a mass-replacement because I am highly skeptical that this is a software issue.

And the logistics of replacing this phone are a real pain in the ass. I can't just take it to the t-mobile store and swap it out.

I am really bummed about it. I don't want to go back to the iphone. But this isn't tolerable and they don't have long to fix it.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=0c0fb2a46ad64955&hl=en&start=1680

idiotekniQues, I'm a Google shareholder and have been keeping pretty close tabs on the support forums, there's a pretty significant problem here, and I really don't think there's a software patch to fix the way the antenna is oriented in the phone. I've used a hell of a lot of radios over the years, it's pretty easy to see what the problem is.

If Google recalls this phone, can I say I told you so?

 

[dguy6789]

There's no way Google will recall the Nexus One with how small the number of complaints are, that would be ridiculous.