Just me, or are teachers teaching LESS?

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BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: aceO07
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
My friend just got his BA for teaching in 2 years and will start out making over 30k a year teaching.

Does your friend have to get his Masters in a few years? I think that's a requirement here.

Yes I think it's within 5 years. BTW, I think getting a masters degree is bogus and should NOT be a requirement unless you're teaching at a collegiate level.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
My SO is a lecturer at a university - I know you are not trying to generalize with your comments but let me tell you, no one that I know or have ever known works harder.

There really isn't any break in the work actually. When she's relaxing on the couch, it is the most deserved relaxing I can ever hope for someone to enjoy.

JuCo Instructors, University Instructors, and University Lecturers get the shaft in the teaching profession. They all do more work than any other teacher/professor, but they still dont do the amount of work a 1st-3rd year law associate does.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: Whisper
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
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The avg laywer, dr, mba, will usually work more than a typical professer. And Im not counting their hours spent moonlighting doing other thing, just their required teaching/research load. I know a professors that probably works 80 hrs a week, but thats because they write/edit textbooks in addition to their professorship.

Starting out, laywers and drs by far work more hours than any other profession.

The avg 1st associate at a medium to large firm(those making $90k+), are working 3000+ hours a year.

Amen. The minimum a PGY1 works is 4000 hours a year.

The 1st year law associates your hear making over ~$125k are working closer to 3500hrs.

PGY1, on average, start at 40K. Woohoo. 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, 80+ hours a week for 40K.

There we go. Now THAT's kind of thing that just takes the cake. While I'm not all for pay based on req's or time, there should be some semblence of reason to avoid things like that.

Yeah, of anyone, medical interns/residents probably get shafted the hardest.

As for the textbook-writing hours, that's technically considered part of the professor's job; although the publications usually come in the form of journal articles, as textbooks aren't generally seen as contributing to your field.

Its not considered part of their job, its entirely voluntary, most do it because they can make an extra $15k+ a year. Now sitting on a committee to chose textbooks is part of their jobs, writing text books is not.
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: meltdown75
My SO is a lecturer at a university - I know you are not trying to generalize with your comments but let me tell you, no one that I know or have ever known works harder.

There really isn't any break in the work actually. When she's relaxing on the couch, it is the most deserved relaxing I can ever hope for someone to enjoy.

JuCo Instructors, University Instructors, and University Lecturers get the shaft in the teaching profession. They all do more work than any other teacher/professor, but they still dont do the amount of work a 1st-3rd year law associate does.
That may be true, I'm sure there are people out there that just thrive on more & more work.

You are definitely right about the 1st year and rookie profs though. Not only do they have to come up with their own lectures and tests / exams, but they often have to freshen up the material a bit too. I know for a fact that she gets the most enjoyment out of seeing her students genuinely interested in the material when she applies it to current events and real-life situations.
 

alkemyst

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i can't agree with almost anything above, but having a brother and family with school age kids (pre-college)...it's horrible.

In college, you have all ranges.

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