Just installed a AMD FX 8350. My thoughts!!!

[Gikaseixas]

Now the 8350 is overall better and neck and neck with a 3570k. Just my opinion, but hey what do I know! I ownly own 2 2500k rigs and a FX 8350 rig.

From somone who actually uses one, has first hand experience, etc. It's not a bad chip in my opinion. I just bought one, get's here friday and some testing will be done. Now, i only have my old and trusted i7 860 to compare but should be interesting regardless.

 

[Chiropteran]

I've been wanting to get one to test out, but the local Microcenter has actually been sold out of 8350s since a day or two after release. And now today their website is down so I can't check if they got them back in stock, bah.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Take off the Synthetics and you have a draw in real applications(FX faster in the majority of MT apps).

Funny, it is always someone esle's fault when AMD loses, the games are not coded correctly, the benchmarks dont mean anything(except the ones AMD wins) etc, etc.

Maybe AMD should design a chip that performs better in the current environment instead of in some mythical universe where everything uses 8 threads and electricity is free.

 

[Gikaseixas]

To all, does it needs to be better than a Intel cpu at gaming and efficiency or does it just needs to be good / decent at what it does? It's not like it will cause the end user to pay $5 more a month for electricity or the game you love the most will not run. Honest question, please use common sense in your answer 🙂

 

[Mallibu]

Funny, it is always someone esle's fault when AMD loses, the games are not coded correctly, the benchmarks dont mean anything(except the ones AMD wins) etc, etc.

Maybe AMD should design a chip that performs better in the current environment instead of in some mythical universe where everything uses 8 threads and electricity is free.

Indeed. After the "programs use intel compilers, windows 7 needs patching to the scheduler, windows 8 will change the performance, the bios was beta, the benchmarks were done by intel fans, the benchmarks are synthetics, and various entertaining excuses, the new catchphrase seems to be

"FX is equal or faster! ........ on MT apps"
that's cherry picking marketing at it's finest.

Real life translation: FX is faster by a small margin, when used in programs that use 8 threads. These programs are 1% of todays program base. In the rest he is slower. No amount of excuses can change that. Feel free to continue your adventures trying to desperately find reasons to buy an FX though.

But hey, get a car that drives fast when it carries 8 passengers but slow when using anything below. Makes sense.

 

[Chiropteran]

But hey, get a car that drives fast when it carries 8 passengers but slow when using anything below. Makes sense.

Sure, use a car analogy. The FX can carry 8 passangers and drive 120mph. The i5 can only fit 6 passengers, but it's top speed is 130mph. Most of the time 6 passengers is enough, but one day a week you need to carry 8, so with an i5 you are forced to make two trips. Also, the cops will pull you over if you drive above 60 mph.

Which one makes more sense to buy?

 

[AtenRa]

Bulldozer was designed for MultiThreaded loads, core count and performance/watt. If you compare PileDriver to Core i7 Sandybridge (both second generation 32nm products) you will find that PD is faster in MT loads and performance/watt is acceptable(faster while consuming more).

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=287

I have said that before, the problem with AMD is they lack behind in manufacturing not in design.

If I counted correctly, sb was faster in 17 of the 25 non gaming benchmarks and of course faster in every gaming benchmark. Not a very good showing for amd in my book.

Take off the Synthetics and you have a draw in real applications(FX faster in the majority of MT apps).

Funny, it is always someone esle's fault when AMD loses, the games are not coded correctly, the benchmarks dont mean anything(except the ones AMD wins) etc, etc.

Maybe AMD should design a chip that performs better in the current environment instead of in some mythical universe where everything uses 8 threads and electricity is free.

What part of Multithreaded (MT) dont you understand ??? I have specifically said that PD is faster in MT loads not in general. It was designed for that task after all.

Anandtech benchmarks have Single or Low threaded apps and MultiThreaded apps, FX8350 is faster in the majority of the real world MT apps than Core i7 2600K.

 

[frozentundra123456]

What part of Multithreaded (MT) dont you understand ??? I have specifically said that PD is faster in MT loads not in general. It was designed for that task after all.

Anandtech benchmarks have Single or Low threaded apps and MultiThreaded apps, FX8350 is faster in the majority of the real world MT apps than Core i7 2600K.

Lets see, "real world" multithreaded apps, a subset of another subset. Impressive.

 

[Vesku]

Lets see, "real world" multithreaded apps, a subset of another subset. Impressive.

Is your PC just for running benchmarks? Is there some productiveness I'm missing out on by not running SuperPi in a continuous loop? The box my MSI GPU came in has "Ready for 3DMARK11" then in smaller type "A DirectX11 benchmark" I got a chuckle that their marketing thought that the 3DMARK11 deserved more prominence than what level of DirectX it was. But it seems their marketing department is indeed hitting a certain target audience with that packaging.